I need a bit of help with the three pulleys I have. There's a large one with a cleat on it attached to the back of the boat at deck level, there's also a small pulley hooked to that one. Then I have a large pulley, I think hooks to the bottom of my boom. There are three places to hook pulleys under the boom, but it looks like I only have one. Can someone snap me a picture of this pulley set up, with the lines run? Or, draw me a picture how I rig the lines in the pulleys. Oh, I also have a pully on port and starbord sides of the deck by my feet, and 2 smaller one's up forward which I'm sure is for the jib, but, also, how does the boom line run through the two deck pulleys? Sorry for the novel. John

Glad you are making progress!

My suggestion is that you will probably get better results if you post some more descriptive pics of your set up (esp the "blocks by your feet")



edited by: andrewscott, Jul 21, 2009 - 05:33 PM

does it have a spinaker? they could be used for flying one. But I have no idea.

This is 2 on stern of boat............

This goes on bottom of boom, (I think)\

These are on both sides of deck by the kick boards. I think the outside set are for the jib, but how to rig inside pair???????????? Or are they for the jib also?



edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 21, 2009 - 05:37 PM

Is the one on the stern sit in front of some sort of track with a traveler car that can run back and forth across it?

I would guess the side is for a Jib but not sure about the inner one does it have some sort of cleating mechanism.

I would love one of these old boats for good family cruiser. Especially for the early part of the season when the water is so cold.

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The stern large pulley has no track around it, but also has a cleat, see picture

Yes the inner pulley one has a cleat, it is shown in picture.

They guy I bought it from has 1 more he said it was actually in a little better shape(mine needed paint on deck. I bought mine on ebay for $850.00 with trailer, and he knocked off $50.00 because I had to paint her, (paint was $86.00 a gallon though. )

He said he's sell the other boat even cheaper, and it's been in a storage locker. Clear Lake, IA.





edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 21, 2009 - 05:59 PM

Looks like a 4 part mainsheet like H-14. Pull mainsheet out all together. Now go thru big pulley with cleat (bottom), up to rear pulley on boom, down to small pulley on main Harken, up to 2nd pulley on boom (that you don't have), down to big Harken & tie off on becket above small pulley. Now to Jib. You need two small pulleys & snap hook (oval) on jib clew. Lay jib sheet on deck. Now go thru cleat with white block, then black block (pulley), now to small block (pulley) on jib clew, then back to black block and tie off on what looks like a becket (or tie off place). Take other end of jib sheet & do same on other side. Black block slides on track. More forward pulls more on leach (trailing edge) of jib. More aft pulls more on foot of jib. Pete

So, I need 1 more pulley or 2 on the boom?



edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 21, 2009 - 07:04 PM

pbegle

Looks like a 4 part mainsheet like H-14. Pull mainsheet out all together. Now go thru big pulley with cleat (bottom), up to rear pulley on boom, down to small pulley on main Harken, up to 2nd pulley on boom (that you don't have), down to big Harken & tie off on becket above small pulley. Now to Jib. You need two small pulleys & snap hook (oval) on jib clew. Lay jib sheet on deck. Now go thru cleat with white block, then black block (pulley), now to small block (pulley) on jib clew, then back to black block and tie off on what looks like a becket (or tie off place). Take other end of jib sheet & do same on other side. Black block slides on track. More forward pulls more on leach (trailing edge) of jib. More aft pulls more on foot of jib. Pete

I confess, I'm no artist. This is how I understand your post Pete, but not sure if I'm starting right at the bottom at the cleat, and where to end it(star). Sorry for the crappy drawing.........

Sooo, I tie off where I have the star in drawing on top of small pulley, is this correct? If so, then, I have a problem, cause there is nowhere to tie off on that pulley, so, I guess I need 2 more pulleys like the single one in my center pic then? Is that correct?



edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 21, 2009 - 07:05 PM

The blocks in your top photo are attached to the boat, large end down. The blocks in the middle photo attach to the boom, large end up. Start at the becket ( where the line is tied now) and go down to the small block, then back up to the small sheave that is just above the becket ( where the line is tied now ). Come down to the same sheave in the bottom block ( small sheave in the ratcheting fiddle block ). Then go back up to the large sheave in the top block ( fiddle block ) back down to the large sheave in the bottom block and out the cleat. This will be 5 to 1.



edited by: skarr1, Jul 21, 2009 - 08:01 PM

skarr1

The blocks in your top photo are attached to the boat, large end down. The blocks in the middle photo attach to the boom, large end up. Start at the becket ( where the line is tied now) and go down to the small block, then back up to the small sheave that is just above the becket ( where the line is tied now ). Come down to the same sheave in the bottom block ( small sheave in the ratcheting fiddle block ). Then go back up to the large sheave in the top block ( fiddle block ) back down to the large sheave in the bottom block and out the cleat. This will be 5 to 1.

Okay, thanks, but, I still need one more block for the boom right?

Nevermind!I'm an idiot, I just realized there were to sheaves in eack of the large blocks! DaUgh




edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 21, 2009 - 08:02 PM

I don't think so.

Looks like you have three bails on the boom. The blocks you have are probably an up grade from the original three blocks on the boom.

Wow, thank you. I didn't see your drawing before. Piece of cake now, thank you. I"m going sailin now baby!

OK, John in this photo ( I think you have seen it before ) the top block is attached at one place on the boom

Follow the lines for your jib setup.


Looks like they go from the jib to the block on the track, then to the block on the swivel and out the cleat.



edited by: skarr1, Jul 21, 2009 - 08:51 PM

How long are these cougars? Ive never seen one I think there beautiful. hope you get it up and running I bet its a blast

gcw

How long are these cougars? Ive never seen one I think there beautiful. hope you get it up and running I bet its a blast

18.5 feet.

SKAR, where did you get that pic of the jib lines. I bet that's my boat! Before it was painted.

Cougarmark can you take a head on picture?

Yeah, hold on.

Sorry the sun's on wrong side right now, check back later in afternoon, around 5:00 or so, here's from the rear, I painted the decks over the hulls, and am doing the floor today!

Nothin like a fresh coat of paint!





edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 22, 2009 - 03:29 PM

All catamarans that I know of that are 18 feet or longer have at least a 7 to 1 mainsheet system. The pictures show this mast with diamond wires. I truly doubt that any less would be a bear to sheet in properly.

make sure you put nonskid grit in your paint. i forgot and took a plunge the first time i gybed(with two buddies)

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edited by: skarr1, Jul 22, 2009 - 05:50 PM

skarr1

The photos are here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaym…m=120422824276&viewitem=edited by: skarr1, Jul 22, 2009 - 05:50 PM

That is MY boat, I'm sue1959snow, I won it. lol

In this photo you can see that there is a boom vang. That's the blocks and wire that attach from the mast base to the boom. Since your main sheat is not on a track the vang helps keep the sail shape when sailing down wind.

That's the short wire at fron of boom to the bottom of mast? It's there too! Ha, I knew that was my boat, it still has the red, sheet and boom cover...............and the #7 on my sail!



edited by: cougarmarkIV, Jul 22, 2009 - 08:42 PM

Dang the sails on those things are huge.

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I am looking at the boom in the last photo, it appears that there are 3 boom bales near the end of the boom, if so the mainsheet system is probably just like a Hobie 18, a 7 to 1.
Let me know if you can, I'm just curious.
Thanks

Yes, there is 3 bail mounts on the boom. Went on the lake yesterday, we were the fastest sail boat on the lake! lol

Where are the photos.

skarr1

Where are the photos.

I can't get photobucket OR image shack to work, pm me you email addy and I'll send some, if you want to host them for me!

Flickr works

Not for me, my computers wierd lately, out of three hosts none are working.

You can also start an album here http://www.thebeachcats.c…=pictures&g2_itemId=3120 and here http://www.thebeachcats.c…pictures&g2_itemId=14581

cougarmarkIV

Not for me, my computers wierd lately, out of three hosts none are working.

Did you know that there are two places on this site where you can upload your own photos?

You can create a personal album in the "Beachcats People" album here.
http://www.thebeachcats.c…pictures&g2_itemId=14581

And also there is a small personal group of pictures you can upload in the "My Pictures" link inside "Your Account".http://www.thebeachcats.…dule-pnUserPictures.html

You can also set one of the pictures in My Pictures as your avatar.

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Looks good and you had the lake to your self.



edited by: skarr1, Jul 26, 2009 - 08:21 PM

Yup, and no wind. What is a nice healthy wind speed anyway?

10 to 15 mph is good. When it starts to white cap its a blast. As long as the wind is steady up to about 25 is doable. Its almost always the gust that get you!

every boat / sail has an optimal range.... but most cats LOVE 12-15.