Since winter winter has put a halt to sailing for most of us it's time to consider what can be done to make the next season even better.

The only thing on my list right now is to install cradles on my CatTrax, but after that 30 minutes is finished I don't know how I'll spend the other three months!

What's on your list?

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Memphis, TN

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Come on over, Damon! I've got hot pizza, cold beer, and two 1982 Prindle 18 hulls to refinish with you!

Some questions(and this is just one day into the project):

A. What do you guys think about "bedding" your crossbeams when I go back together? Like with clear or white sylicone, maybe. Would I ever be able to get it apart later? I think one joint on my boat was loose when I got the boat.

B. I was quoted a price of $380 for a gallon of Omni PPG MTK Acrylic Urethane topcoat, a gallon of MP182 2K Urethane Surfacer primer, plus a quart for each of reducer/hardener/Idontknow additive. Is this a good price, and is this a good thing to paint my boat with? I don't mind paying a little more than rock-bottom if this is good stuff, cause I'm gonna bug the hell out of these folks till I'm done I think.

Any help is well needed and much appreciated

jon

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What is bedding your crossbeams

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Im cuting the rusted rear beam off my trailer & adding some expanded metal to make a deck platform to store campn goodies under the cat, maybe a place for a kayak or sail tube to ride.
I am also curious about bedding the cross beams. When I took my prindle apart you could see where water was sitting between hull& crossbeam causeing corrosion , lime buildup on the threads.Makes me worried about freeze/thaw in winter storage.My main concern is the rear crossbeam it has some cut away areas that seem to be a problem, the water gets in and isnt draining out.

golfdad75

What is bedding your crossbeams

I pulled the term from long-range shooting, where the rifle barrel is bonded (bedded) to the forestock to reduce movement and therefore increase accuracy.

In this case I was refering to the idea of a layer of sylicone inbetween the hull and the crossbeam to increase stiffness and eliminate chafe...when I pulled off my crossbeams there was a layer of very fine sand in every spot where the two surfaces did not match perfectly; with every flex, no matter how minor, the sand was wearing and forcing the joint into looseness, also with corrosion as nitrodub pointed out. I'm just worried about sepparating the parts the next time I need to. I don't want to tear out the 'glass at the joint.

Damon, should I be posting all this in the "tech" section? Please feel free to move to wherever I can get the help I so badly need. Is there a "fiberglass/paint guy" in the house?

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pirateboy27

Damon, should I be posting all this in the "tech" section? Please feel free to move to wherever I can get the help I so badly need. Is there a "fiberglass/paint guy" in the house?

Yes, go ahead and post a new thread in the technical forum titled something like "Bedding Beams to Hull" and start the discussion.

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1992 Hobie 18
Memphis, TN

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One thing that I have already done (more of a fall project) was clear out the cove that I sail out of of rip rock.Over the years people have placed large rip rocks on top of their anchors to help hold their boat over night.Kids and adults have hurdler rip rock into this cove too.Now that the water level is so low from this very dry summer,my favorite cove looked like a mine field of rock.So I went over there with my new wheel barrow(with two front wheels) and a friend and moved 72 loads of rock out off the shallow water and all the exposed rocks too.
The fishermen might complain about this but when I sail into or out of this small cove I don't "bump" into anything that could scratch my boat .Paynetown Recreation Area ,outside of Bloomington,IN is a better place to sail out of.Launch your boat at this cove by where they rent large party boats...Bill 404 21SE

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I'm thinking of selling my trailer, as it just takes up space & have never used it since bringing the boat home. After experimenting with the seadoo lift to hold my cat I will now fabricate what worked best out of metal. The wood beams float the cradle, so I had to tie weights on it to keep it sunk when the Cat was off. Worked, but not as convenient as I want it.
My original sails are going to the loft to have UV strip put on the jib, & a tear in the bolt rope are fixed. I pulled off the traveler to wash out as it seems to be binding, & I replaced the traveler cleat & put the stolen parts back on my Invitation. I also picked up some sail repair tape during the pass through Carpenteria, Ca. I see signs of the sailsbattens rubbing on the shrouds, so I want to run a wear strip along each batten that touches.
I'm ordering some new hi tech line to lace the rear of the tramp.
Biggest project is going to be removing the paint that was used on the lower 1/2 of the hulls & buffing them back to original. The paint starts to chelate & everytime you brush the hull now you get it on you.
Only 3 months Damon? Lucky guy, we are stuck till the end of April, unless you want to go the drysuit route.



Edited by Edchris177 on Nov 23, 2010 - 08:25 AM.

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Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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sails and tramp off to sailcare for cleaning, repairs, and re-resigning; new mast base, dolphin striker, and ball; new standing rigging; fresh lines; another glass pass on keels and touch up paint; new kayaking life vest for traps; trailor loving; and another saints superbowl!!!

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prindle 16- "BLUE RIBBON"
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Oh, you small-boat guys...

--Miz B's bottom is osmosing or rather I think it's paint blistering from the trailer bunks retaining water, so that needs to be solved. I'm contemplating using the marine felt stuff (http://www.sailrite.com/Boat-Blanket-Fabric-Gray-72) rather than carpet, for the bunks, and I'm really thinking about sending the boat over to Donnie Brennan for the bottom job, since I did the last one myself. I'm prolly gonna grow a third tit from all these chemicals, at least Jay'll be happy about that.
--The bow eye is rusty and probably leaks. I'm not sure how the Hell to reach it, since it's behind the crash bulkhead, way in the bow of the boat. (hence the name 'bow eye.') Jay will likely be put on that one. He's taller, anyway.
--Hatch latch screws Loctited
--Patch the cracks in the cockpit cooler, and enforce my own rule about having bottled beverages in there since it's prolly the bottles bashing the damn thing. Why in Hell can't they put good stuff in cans, I don't know.
--The crash bulkhead flange needs glueing again
--The throttle extension needs better engineering. You'd think, being married to an engineer...
--The bow light needs replacing
--The screacher halyard continues to twist/hockle. I'm just going to commit seppuku about that. I've spliced up three lines now. I guess it's good practice, if expensive. Refer to earlier 'engineering' remark...

***H18***
1. patch a small tramp tear
2. upgrade to 8 or 9:1 main
3. convert 6:1 downhaul to 8:1 w/jam cleats on mast & less pulleys
4. decide to keep my SX main and jib or have them cut to SE size
5. re hull-kote or starbrite the hulls....
6. new bridles

***H14T***
1. compound/polish/etc way way weathered hulls
2. decide to convert to uni-rig for the nats
3. new dolphin striker wire

***the club's H17***
1. fix the wing socket leaks
2. fix the centerboards
3. buff up the hulls
4. find the mainsail
5. install rail traction/grips
6. take her for a wild winter hull flying ride down casino row.

all that combined w/a short "winter" (really only Jan and Feb) means I'll be busy!

***A Cat***
fair out the bottoms, get it painted!!
install new mast rotation system
install new mast base
Get a new tramp
Get a yard cover made
fix the *&^%$ing trailer.

***Supercat 15***
finish the Spinnaker system
(need to order a kite!)

And for the cool stuff--
In the winter, I work on RC sailboats. I have a few footies to fix, one to finish and a 48"x48" all carbon fiber trimaran to finish by New Years.

I also have to figure out how to splice line. I've been meaning to learn for years, but haven't needed to until now. That should drive me crazy.



Edited by DanBerger on Nov 23, 2010 - 11:59 AM.

I have a pretty simple list, although I have a tendency to put it off to the last couple of weekends before sailing starts again in the spring.

I have some lines to replace, a soft-spot on the starboard hull to fill, and trailer lights that don't work to chase down.

-Steve

I mentioned I needed a bow light, right? So I found this kewl little LED light that I've been waiting to replace the incandescent original with. The problem is that this little light is somewhat oval, and the original is circular. The way my light mounts is astraddle the pulpit railing.

So I've got to fabricate a new light fixture. So what I'm thinking is to mould up another half-oval, or half-egg shape to straddle the pulpit rail. Imagine an egg cut lengthwise, I guess, and the two halves will meet across the rail.

So, I hit on the 'genius' idea to take the bubble pack the new light comes in and fill it with microlight filler/epoxy and make the fixture. OK. So I mix up this super thick, nigh crumbly mix of microlite and epoxy and go to scooping it into my mould.

If you're familiar with epoxy, you're laughing really hard right about now.

In any case, I don't think twice about what I'm doing, and jam this about 2"x3"x1/2" little bit of plastic pack full of microlight and epoxy bog.

You see, what happens with a great lot of mixed epoxy... welll... the epoxy reaction is exothermic, really really exothermic. So a clump of this stuff is gonna get real hot. I knew that, but I thought that since I put in sooo much microlight, the effect would be to 'thin' the epoxy, as though it were spread.

So here I am with my little half-egg, and I'm trying to get the bog in, and it begins to heat up and expand. I'm holding this thing in my hand, and it's smoking, and expanding, and bubbling, and I'm freakin' out and trying to get the mixture back into the mould which unbelievably hasn't melted, and then I get the genius idea to run madly for the kitchen to get ice, and I'm screaming for my husband who thinks I've killed myself, but I really only wanted a third hand to make an ice slurry into which to throw this frickin' BOMB I've created...

Thankfully, he gets there and grabs the whole ice box thingie and dumps it onto me and the work. But hey, it saved the mould....

~~~ Check out the ice sailin boat & get ready for ice sailin. My VA Dr. told me to lose a few pounds-- ( I will, and get in better shape than what I'am now and put some more 'muscules' on me)..... White water kayakin will kill me next year!!!
My 17 & 18 Hobies are ok untill spring... I have "A" frames over them for the winter... I don't wanna do fiberglass work on them again....... ~~~~~~

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and other toys.......
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Rebuilding a NACRA Inter 20 that I just bought. Right now I have the whole thing torn apart. The hulls went off to one of the guys that use to work at Performance Catamaran for some ding repairs and a buffing.

I should have the new tramp in a few weeks and will painting the mast over the T-giving weekend.

Pretty excited about this boat, it has "good bones' and a great wardrobe of sails. Hope to have it back on the water in February.

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Ventura, CA
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Have to have a furling jib for the P18, will use existing jib to save on $$$. Plan to measure the luff on the jib and then order a new forestay to those measurements, will need a pigtail or upper forestay and a 10 hole stay adjuster. Have the harken furler drum and swivel, will need to upgrade to hi-load bearings as per eddchris177 in tech gallery, thanks Captain Edd.

Other than that, the other winter project is to complete my album on the P18, pics on how good she cleaned up with poliglow, how good the new tramp from slo-sails looks and how I built a new solo mast step setup with a mast with diamond wires.

Winter Sucks

Polish, polish, polish! Tired of getting the white chalk on me every time I brush the side of the boat. Replace bungee for right rudder that has ED. Sails to loft for repair, cleaning, graphics. Shave some weight off of driver and crew. Maybe get around to registering the boat and putting those hideous letters on the bows

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Force 5 project boat
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Previous boat
1980 Nacra 5.2
"Double Vision"
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[quote]grow a third tit from all these chemicals, at least Jay'll be happy about that.[/quote
Way to optimistic, it is only a blessing on the Simpsons!
(of course I would not object to the PM mass mailing of this so called mammary, can we hope for 36C Firm?)

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I'm just going to commit seppuku about that.

I'm married to a Sansei, therefore serpica, (vs seppeku went out way before we were born), but I get your drift.

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6. take her for a wild winter hull flying ride down casino row. icon_smile

When you get to be my age you realize that this is the only one that counts, the rest is just vanity

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That should drive me crazy.

Dan, at our age, read the above!

Tami. Tami Tami...I feel your pain regarding to much catalyst in the epoxy!
Feel my pain..I'm in Shanghai again, we are all pisse* because we found this new restaurant that features a full Japanese meal + unlimited drinking, (despite being in China they have Kirin, Asahi, Heiniken & none of that PBR shyte) & it is 0600hr, so we have been up for 24 hr+ and where was I going with this....oh yeah, buy a Nacra 5.7 & you will all enjoy eternal happiness, weriously, would I BS You?.

Turbo hobo...don't spend the $$ til I PM you (or get my ass in gear & finish editing the Tech Album that I promised Damon I would do almost a year ago) regarding converting to a roller furler. It was the simplest of times, it was the worst of times. When I did it, many folk gave me advice,(they meant well, & knew what they were doing, or had done,( the problem is there are several dozen ways to skin this cat, & there are dozens of permutations, & almost no one else has the "best" way to do it for YOUR Cat. Even ,"what does the end of your bridal wires look like", makes a difference).
You need to analyze what you have (my background is also science & engineering)& go from there. And I'm not BSing you, read my dissertation that everyone else slagged, where I was trying to explain a technical subject to the unwashed masses...where was that Damon? I can't see the "my posts" anymore, ha ha maybe I don't want to I gotta go to bed, it's 1:16 p.m. the next day here, we've been up for 27 hrs...I thin I have to work a long shift soon.
Where is that scallywag Andrew hiding out? he always has an opinion?



Edited by Edchris177 on Nov 24, 2010 - 12:20 PM.

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Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
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Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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all you beer snobs...GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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hattiesburg, mississippi
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Winter?
It was 81 degrees here today. Water temp 72 degrees. Beer 36 degrees.
10 nt breeze.

My "winter" goal is to try and sail 12 more days before the end of the year.

Your results may vary.

bfoxg8r1

Winter?
It was 81 degrees here today. Water temp 72 degrees. Beer 36 degrees.
10 nt breeze.

My "winter" goal is to try and sail 12 more days before the end of the year.

Your results may vary.

I have a similar problem. My current "project" is to find a new wet suit so that I can sail on those chilly January days when the temperature doesn't get out of the 60's. Problems. Problems.

Dave W
Tampa, FL

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Tampa, FL
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I painted my Stiletto 27 with Awl Grip...after 3 years, I sold it and it still looked like the day I painted. I highly recommend you use Awl Grip.

pirateboy27

Come on over, Damon! I've got hot pizza, cold beer, and two 1982 Prindle 18 hulls to refinish with you!

Some questions(and this is just one day into the project):

A. What do you guys think about "bedding" your crossbeams when I go back together? Like with clear or white sylicone, maybe. Would I ever be able to get it apart later? I think one joint on my boat was loose when I got the boat.

B. I was quoted a price of $380 for a gallon of Omni PPG MTK Acrylic Urethane topcoat, a gallon of MP182 2K Urethane Surfacer primer, plus a quart for each of reducer/hardener/Idontknow additive. Is this a good price, and is this a good thing to paint my boat with? I don't mind paying a little more than rock-bottom if this is good stuff, cause I'm gonna bug the hell out of these folks till I'm done I think.

Any help is well needed and much appreciated

jon

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2010 C2 F18 USA 323
Goodall Design "Southern Area Rep"
Owner of Sailboxes.com
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i painted mine last year, got 2 quarts, painted 2 medium coats, had a 1/2 qt left over. probably could have gotten 1 more coat. used this paint, no primer required, 39$ per qt, 14$ for reducer.



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Let me second coastrats expertise.

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Let me second Kenny's AwlGrip suggestion. My boat has a TEN (10) year AwlGrip paint job.

the supermarine revolution is a new technology(hybrid resin) so not that much data like on awlgrip and interlux and so on. but it doesn't require a primer if over gelcoat/glass saving a prime coat /sand pass. any quality marine topside paint will do if applied proper. i am going to do some keel glass/epoxy this offseason and touch up with my left over material. you shouldn't need more than 2 qts of top coat for your project, a gallon will leave much left over.

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My winter project is too find the dang leak in my starboard hull. It has baffled me. Also move jib leads, restitch the tramp, remove the middle pipe, paint and dare I say it yes I dare a squaretop main. Also a barberhauler, I have found this summer that choking the jib down was my biggest problem.

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78 H18 adding wings and hopefully some sort of "hooter" or screecher. looking for one(i need the whole kit)

I'm going to rig a on the water jib luff downhaul adjuster for my new Tiger jib

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2010 C2 F18 USA 323
Goodall Design "Southern Area Rep"
Owner of Sailboxes.com
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I'm going to rig a on the water jib luff downhaul adjuster for my new Tiger jib

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Kenny Boudreaux
2010 C2 F18 USA 323
Goodall Design "Southern Area Rep"
Owner of Sailboxes.com
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My winter project is to Re-paint my Boat Trailer.

Does not really feel like Winter though....

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Panama city, FL

Boat whore
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Ordering a new tramp for my 5.0 and trying to find a leak in the port hull that has been driving my crazy all summer.

David

I gotta put the whole Trac18 back together!


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Fixing up trailers. I'm tired of rusty U bolts, hitches and good cat hulls riding on rollers - so adding paint, stainless steel parts, and cradles.

Also trying to tackle the sail-tube-box problem. Got a length of 15" PVC, but it's HEAVY. I'd like to mount it offset it on my 4' wide trailer, and leave room for a cargo platform, but don't want all that weight off the centerline. Been thinking of using Sonotube instead, after sealing it with fiberglass and epoxy. Or... build a box out of wood....can't decide. Will get the trailers built up and cradles made first, tho.

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I used a 14" round by 10'2"aluminum spiral duct work for my 21SE trailer.One end is sealed and the other end has a custom made locking end cap.This sail tube was made in 1989 and still looks brand new today.On my 16 trailer,I fabricated a sail storage box out of 1/8" aluminum tread plate.It too looks brand new today and it is 17 years old(I think).As you know ,aluminum is very light and requires no paint at all.
Be careful using stainless steel parts next to steel parts.Being dissimilar metals they will corrode quickly without a barrier (piece of rubber gasket) to separate them.I did a 16 trailer back in 1985 and used stainless bolts and other custom made stainless parts that corroded in less than a year.Today I use gasket tape between the steel frame of a trailer and the aluminum tread plate that I cover my trailers with.Aluminum and stainless should never touch steel without some kind of membrane separating them.
Good luck,Bill 404 21SE

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We'll probably paint/gel the P19 hulls this winter. All other sailing boats are pefect! My real winter project is a Glastron Jetflite 1970.
http://www.jetflite.blogspot.com

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My real winter project is a Glastron Jetflite 1970.
http://www.jetf…e.blogspot.com

It might be an interesting read, BUT, the blue water background renders the text invisible.

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Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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WHA? Thanks for letting me know, this is the first I heard someone can't read it, Can I ask your OS and browser? I have a 1000 page views and no complaints, so I'm curious. Thanks!

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It must have been a glitch in my computer, (latest Firefox & Opera). When I originally clicked the link the background water filled the frame. The text was nearly the same color & was invisible.
I just tried it again & the darker blue background,containing the pics & text now appears. making it very readable. Nice writeup of your project, makes my winter works look like childs play...that transom... one fistful of power & it was gone.
Thanks



Edited by Edchris177 on Dec 05, 2010 - 10:24 AM.

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Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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Progress report! We now have the hulls ready for the gel-coat and buffing. There were a lot of little dings, chips, cracks and a few half a$$ repairs done by the previous owner. I'll post picks of the finshed product next week.

Dings - lots of dings



Close up of redoing one of the half a$$ repairs



Now I know how Mike Holmes feels when he gets a job where it was not done right the first time



Smooth!



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know how u feel, just resurfaced my hulls with high build primer, and finished the last coat a few weeks ago. looks good

i guess i am looking to put a spin/genny set up on. then some wings. but............ MOST of all..... trying to line up my calender with some of the sweetest looking BABES that will sail with me...
funny that my old H18 is NOT really a "lay on the on the front with your bra off boat BUT" it's kinda cool when it happens though...

My first job this winter was getting the cat into the storage from the small beach where we stayed last fall.
See my pictures in the " situations" section......
Winter kicked in pretty early this year and quit hard. Was away for work for a couple of days when it came.
The small beach is prohibited for cars, so I had to push it on the cat-track a mile and a half trough fresh snow walls and slippery frozen mud trials. It's safe now ! Next year I'll buy a 4x4 cat.

regards, Andre

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Prindle 18-2 (sold)
Dart 16 (hired and hooked)
13 mtr steel cutter (sold)
Etap 22, unsinkable sailing pocket cruiser.

Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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dewy2437

know how u feel, just resurfaced my hulls with high build primer, and finished the last coat a few weeks ago. looks good

Tell me, here is how it turned out!












Edited by JohnES on Dec 15, 2010 - 05:36 PM.

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JohnES, Those hulls look better than factory! It definitely shows that you invested a lot of time in the prep. Nice work!

I have a project that I'm starting this winter as well. I recently inherited a Sol Cat 18 from my in-laws. It's been sitting on my parents property for almost six months now because every time I look at her I see the endless hours of work and $$ that it's going to take to get her back up to snuff. But I've set my mind to it that she's coming down to the work shop next month to be stripped down and re-painted. Any advice on things that I should focus on... besides all of it? LOL! This is the first and only cat I've ever owned or sailed so I'm excited to get it ready for the spring but don't want to half a$$ it.

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1974 SOLCAT 18
Salem, OR
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It is a rolling list I have been adding to all summer, but avoided completing some things by patching things or making due. Life is too short for not sailing on good wind days.

Rudder Blades:
Cross bar (replace) aluminum round with 7/8th ID must be 1/8" wall minimum
Tiller extension 105"
Spares - Get some (happy with Hobie blank cut for stock Prindle castings)
Sand, Fair, and Gel-coat
Dagger Boards:
Glass repair - Sand Fair, and Gel-coat just the lower tips (minor damage).
Hulls:
Sand Fair from end to end and Gel-coat just the bottoms.
Tramp
Remove tramp, Re-stich (did a fine job last year) new machine will do even better.
Main
Repair Leach bottom, remove hand sewing and replace with 9 oz Dacron patch up to the upper feed, about 18"
Bring by North Sails and discuss reefing options. (consider the top sheave, and the halyard line)
Replace tell tails where missing
Jib
Repair Luff near zipper. may require glue of some type (see North for advice)?
Develop 1/2 size jib for strong weather, 30% foot, 80% leach and 90% luff.
Remake current MX Jib w/o window using existing as template.
Cradles:
Sand, fair, and gel-coat, remount with carriage bolts.
Clothing or Gear
Harness: Get a full nappy like Gill, Murray's is looking kinda getho
Gloves: Gill 7772 extreme sailing gloves
E-Perb - If you sail in the winter, no-one is coming by to help when you break your arm.
Main Sheet:
Upgrade 8:1 $400 (should reduce locking cleat, and subsequent swimming.)

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See you on the water
2003 Bimare 18HT solo Sailor
Formerly P-19MX solo sailor
Portsmouth RI
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As I don't have access to my cat during the winter. I will only be doing small projects and planning the larger projects for when the spring comes.

-Find a full wet suit for a reasonable price.
-Make some end caps.
-Add tell tales to sails.
-Work out how to complete the addition of a hooter.
-Find/order some good pulleys to complete the hooter set-up.
-Add mast rotation cam cleat to boom.
-Add cam cleat, pulley for main foot tension.
-Design make strap for loose clew foot tension boom slide.
-Re-gelcoat bottom of keel.
-Wash main.

This was just a very temporary setup for fit.


Learn to sail :)



Edited by nl_expatriate on Oct 28, 2011 - 10:41 PM.

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I am picking up a "garage find" this weekend, a 1981 Hobie 16 and trailer. This boat has been in storage for 20 years. I have yet to see it but I am hopeful that it is in fine shape or repairable shape. So this boat will be my winter project.

I already have an "81 Hobie 16 and a '89 Hobie 21SE. My 16 year old daughter doesn't really understand that her dad is getting a third boat.

Good day,

Bill 404 21SE

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Bill 404 21SE
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My 16 year old daughter doesn't really understand that her dad is getting a third boat.

Ask her how many pairs of shoes she has.

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Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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@ JohnES, nice work! Did a similar job on my P18-2 last spring. Still don't know how to post pics in a message,
otherwise I could show you some of my work.

My winter projects are:
-Sail the cat till the lake freezes over.
-Learn to sail her faster, 2 weeks ago an experienced catamaran crack (12 times round texel race! ) came with me
on a 4-5 Bf trip. Man, I learned more in one afternoon than the whole summer sailing solo.
Learned to sheet in even harder, how to use downhaul on the main better and the setting of the mast rotation.
Also learned to cope with gusts using the helm and less main-sheet. A real eye-opener!
- This winter I am gonna upgrade the mainsheet blocks in 8to1, for a more precise control.
- Replace the old pocket from the tramp with 2 slightly larger ones. My neighbour's Dart 18 has a "2 stories" pocket,
bottom store has zipper to the bows storing the halyards,lines, etc. Upper store has a zipper to the back storing coffee, sandwiches, drinks, flares and a vhf. If only I could find the mesh cloth......
- Repair the spinnaker, it has a tear in the bottom leech.
- Sort out the snuffer-system, lines get tangled and the spi won't go back into the snufferbag without a struggle.
- Get the "space" out of the ruddersystem, when I move the tiller there's always a space of 1 or 2 centimetre
before the rudders move. Its an old cat, so changing the bolts on the crosbar and tiller-connection for slightly
larger ones should help.
- The usual fairing of rudders and daggerboards, there's always some dents on the front after a season.

Thats about it.
Regards, André

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I already have an "81 Hobie 16 and a '89 Hobie 21SE. My 16 year old daughter doesn't really understand that her dad is getting a third boat

Bill, I know what you mean. I've got three cats myself. A few years ago my wife and I took a nice road trip to Ohio to pick up a Hobie 16 just because the sails had the same colors as our 5.7.(See my avatar). My daughter threatened an "intervention" for my "addiction". Since then she has been my crew in our fleet races. Here's what happens when you hit a 4ft boat wake rounding "A" mark before you have a chance to uncleat the main. The reason for three boats??? It's FUN!!!

Narcaman 57,

Nice sail colors, my first 16 was a new one in "85 with those White Prism sails too. # 86264 sails.
I upgraded to my 21SE in '89 and traded in my 16 only losing $100 in the trade in. Four years of hard sailing and losing $100, what a deal!

Bill 404 21SE

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The boat, a Wave, is still beside the house and not disassembled and put under the deck. I'm toying with going to the Nationals in Key Largo. If I do I need a new sail and a new set of battens built, tapered, matched, ends installed and painted. The materials are in the mail and in my garage. Guess I should do the rudders too. Busy for the next couple of weeks.

Winter plans for my H16... Upgrade the jib sheet traveler and control system , Aussie jib halyard, 6-1 downhaul system.

Hobie 18: Replace both hulls. Fix rudders, clean up daggers. Paint

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Houston TX
1986 Hobie 18 Sail# 13031
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presto99

Hobie 18: Replace both hulls. Fix rudders, clean up daggers. Paint

Both hulls? What happend!

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1992 Hobie 18
Memphis, TN

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Build new carbon fiber rudders and daggers for my Hobie Tiger...

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2010 C2 F18 USA 323
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Build new carbon fiber rudders and daggers for my Hobie Tiger...

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wow, that is cool. how do you do that?

Buy a block of polystyrene foam and shape it, then glass over it with carbon fiber!

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2010 C2 F18 USA 323
Goodall Design "Southern Area Rep"
Owner of Sailboxes.com
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presto99

Hobie 18: Replace both hulls. Fix rudders, clean up daggers. Paint

Both hulls? What happend!

Apparently my theory on the colored hulls not failing was wrong.
We were sailing in a distance race on October 1. Wind was 18-20 and gusty, bay was choppy. We almost capsized (75~80 degrees of heel) with 470 lbs of crew.

7 miles out, on a broad reach, the boat was slowing down, handling funny and then tried to pitchpole. We dumped the jib, no effect, dumped main, bow came back up slowly. My crew (dad) and I looked at each other and said at the same time "the port hull is full of water". We tried to tack back to the beach but the leeward hull was still filling, and killed our momentum, so I gybed, it was a little busy in the back office, and I managed to slow the boom down by letting the main sheet hit my life jacket. Didn't hurt, and kept some stress off the rig. That put the flooded hull to windward, and we stayed on the leeward side of the boat, sailed for an hour, and made it back.

When we got to the beach, I popped the inspection port and saw that we had about 3 inches of air space left in the hull. The boat was still in water, but I pulled the plug to get some weight off so we could get wheels under it. The flow of water blew the plug out of my hand, and off the tether. 45 minutes to drain hull after we got it on the beach.

Took boat home rinsed it off, then inspected boat found cracks in both hulls at forward beam, port hull had crack at aft beam and in top of dagger trunk. We also had some delamination, behind daggers. We were going to beef up the forward beam, fix delamination, paint boat, and perform IRAN this winter.

Found two white hulls from an '88 on CL for a decent price, bought them, sold my hulls to a guy building an electric boat(????) so now I am going to fix forward beams, some cosmetic issues, and rebuild.

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pirateboy dont paint your hulls in my experience painting is the lazy way out and youre just going to have to repaint every other year or so or more if u like beaching the cat or use it alot! heres the solution and it will save you some cash! go to your closest major fiberglass supplier ie. not west marine their is distributors all over or go online to fiberglassflorida.com and order from their but anyway get 1 gallon of polyester gelcoat white of course not the tooling. then 1 gallon of durtatec clear high gloss additive mix these 2 together equal parts 1:1 if you want a diffrent color than pure white mix in the pigment now you can usually get it all in the same place you buy your gelcoats and resins anyway back to the project once everything is mixed 1:1 go buy a cheap vertical drop spray gun from harbor freight or discount auto 15 bucks is usually what they cost. now sand the boat down nice and smooth fill in cracks and make repairs as needed once done wipe boat with acetone and clean rag. now mix up a batch of the 1:1 mix with your catalyst use a measuring device dont eye ball it youll probably end up kicking the gelcoat to fast and ruin you spray gun if you eye ball the measurments. now spray your hull nice and neat any runs sand down and do 4 or 5 coats. of this or more if u want each gallon will do 100sq ft so 2 gallons which you will have will do 200sq ft more than any beach cat by about 8x . now once you got your coats done sand out inperfections do touch up and go sail !!! the gallon of gelcoat will be 40bucks the duratec about 90 the spray gun 15 plus cups ect probably around 200 bucks and youll do it the right way if you got questions call me i do fiberglass for a living! email and ill send you my number if needed zachhansman89@yahoo.com

ps the duratec thins out the gelcoat thin enough to go through any spray gun it also strength to the gelcoat its the good stuff!

zachhansman89

pirateboy dont paint your hulls in my experience painting is the lazy way out and youre just going to have to repaint every other year or so or more if u like beaching the cat or use it alot! heres the solution and it will save you some cash! go to your closest major fiberglass supplier ie. not west marine their is distributors all over or go online to fiberglassflorida.com and order from their but anyway get 1 gallon of polyester gelcoat white of course not the tooling. then 1 gallon of durtatec clear high gloss additive mix these 2 together equal parts 1:1 if you want a diffrent color than pure white mix in the pigment now you can usually get it all in the same place you buy your gelcoats and resins anyway back to the project once everything is mixed 1:1 go buy a cheap vertical drop spray gun from harbor freight or discount auto 15 bucks is usually what they cost. now sand the boat down nice and smooth fill in cracks and make repairs as needed once done wipe boat with acetone and clean rag. now mix up a batch of the 1:1 mix with your catalyst use a measuring device dont eye ball it youll probably end up kicking the gelcoat to fast and ruin you spray gun if you eye ball the measurments. now spray your hull nice and neat any runs sand down and do 4 or 5 coats. of this or more if u want each gallon will do 100sq ft so 2 gallons which you will have will do 200sq ft more than any beach cat by about 8x . now once you got your coats done sand out inperfections do touch up and go sail !!! the gallon of gelcoat will be 40bucks the duratec about 90 the spray gun 15 plus cups ect probably around 200 bucks and youll do it the right way if you got questions call me i do fiberglass for a living! email and ill send you my number if needed zachhansman89@yahoo.com

PUNCTUATE!

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Well, looks like that bottom job will have to wait until springGuess I'll have to break out the Foxpro and the coyote rifle...what....you think I'm going to sit here and watch sailing videos all winter???

One of my winter projects is to put new seals (all five) on my two drysuits. Parts and glue look to be about $140 per suit. Anyone have a preferred vendor?

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Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
AZ Multihull Fleet 42 member
(Way) Past Commodore of Prindle Fleet 14
Arizona, USA
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I am going to blend two H17s. Many of the parts I want to keep are on the hulls that need to be structurally corrected. I have two very solid hulls that need a bottom job, just a bit too many beach scratches. I want to do the gel coat on the bottoms only. There are not many scratches on the sides. I am also concerned about weight. I am hoping to apply new gelcoat to the bottoms and about 6 inches up each side of each hull. I will try to mask and then blend the new gel up the sides. zachhansman89 gives good advise on spraying the whole bottom of the hulls. Do you think it makes since to do just the bottoms and a little up the sides? It is extra work with masking and blending the spray. But then I don't need to prep the entire bottom and sides.

Also looking at new wing tramps and main sheet.

Steve
H17 x2

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I'm getting the A cat painted and I'm putting a spinnaker on my Supercat 15. I'm also working on a 48" X 48" RC trimaran. Pictures will definitely follow...

I bought new sails for the P18, should have them in January. I will hold them in my lap lovingly, stroking them with abandon, waiting for April.
I am on my third 1980s era boat, and these are my first new sails ever. Square tops too. I crawled away from Hobie 16s in previous years, hope I can smoke them now. Woohoo.

Also getting new sails. For my P19.

Local sailloft (mariner-sails) is thrilled that they get to build something cool instead of typical white monohull sails.



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94 Prindle 19 - "überKat"
DFW, TX
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new standing rigging, some fresh lines here and there, new fasteners for crossbars and rudder gudgeons, mild tramp repairs, waterproof vhf, and a few things i haven't planned on(of course!)...LOOK OUT DAUPHIN ISLAND RACE!!!

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hattiesburg, mississippi
prindle 16- "BLUE RIBBON"
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Also getting new sails. For my P19.
Local sailloft (mariner-sails) is thrilled that they get to build something cool instead of typical white monohull sails.

Looking sexy, Uwe!!!

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Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
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Also getting new sails. For my P19.
Local sailloft (mariner-sails) is thrilled that they get to build something cool instead of typical white monohull sails.

Mine will be (mostly) dark blue on the top and bottom, with a white, red, white panels in the middle. Inspired by the letter C:





Edited by kgatesman on Dec 14, 2011 - 05:55 PM.

gonna name the boat HARRY CAREY?...."what's your favorite planet?...mine's the sun!"

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That skit is one of Will Ferrell's all time best! Boats-n-Hos!

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Hank, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, P16 - "Sideways"
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1. trying to figure out how to make my 30 year old gelcoat on the hobie 16 i have owned for 25 years to shine.
2. flat tire on trailer
3. one of the rudder cams needs replacing

the fun to cost ratio for this boat has been incredible. i imagine at some time i will get something faster, after my youngest loses interest, i know i can still rig and sail this one by myself.

banana yellow with orange crush sail.

oh and i have a couple of monohulls i need to have ready by the spring, a laser and a banshee.

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Kenneth Purdy
Hobie 16
Nacra 5.2 (2)
Banshee
First Coast, Florida
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Fix my rudders, fix various dings, gelcoat, get a real trailer instead of a homemade one and install portholes. Oh yeah, a new mast would be fantastic!

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Hobie 16
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
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I'm posting this up just for the satisfaction of coming back in May and adding "Done" next to all of this. I was given a "free" P16 that is in pretty good shape but sat under a tree and tarp since 1995. So here is my extensive list of reviving a classic.

Hulls
Delam both sides rear x member to rudders
Keels epoxy and glass
topside / side gouges fill and fare
One deep nick silver dollar size - epoxy from outside add glass from the inside since I can reach it
Replace Inspection ports
Paint or Gel Coat- I want to keep it powder blue so still thinking
replace plugs

Sails / Tramp - Already at sailmaker
Jib -new zipper
Main/Jib restitch pin hole repair
Tramp / Patch
Battens repair or replace cracked ones. I'm leaning towards replacing the longest and cutting down the rest.

Rigging
Standing - order new
Running - Order new- Sta-Set + Salsa Main sheet ( still thinking on this one) + main Halyard wire
Traps - New wire / shock cord / blocks
Tramp lace kit
Hawaiian Righting system + bag

Blocks
Mashead Sheves - Replaced
Main / jib clean and lube

Spars & Cross Members
water test for leaks
replace nylon ball joint
replace mast cleat
re-rivit traveler to x member
Re-tighten / Check / Adjust Dolphin striker

Rudders
Fare a few nicks
Paint
Replace Port casting
Re-reg up down lines / replace sheves
free up SS pintles in Aluminum gudgeons
tiller extension - home brew for now

Trailer
Sand / repaint
Rewire
Repack/ replace bearings
Mast caddy / Mast Crutch Fix/ repaint - Done

DMV
Register / Insure

Other odds and ends
Rescue knife(s)
waterproof blue tooth speakers. Keep the droid in the hulls and tunes on the tramp.
Trap Harness - Maybe by the end of the season

Plus everything else I forgot.

April / May is going to be a marathon to get this all done by Memorial Day, but I got my wetsuit ready to roll and 4 months to plan and prepare. I see the most major task as being the hulls, specifically painting - I really wish I had a garage.


Needless to say I've got a spreadsheet running with all my needed parts / measurements and a growing pile of parts in the basement.

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1983 P16 Sail # 7312
"Miller Time" A work in progress; out of the water for 16 years
Barnegat Bay NJ
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Nice list Bob, you are going to be busy!

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1992 Hobie 18
Memphis, TN

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A late summer project ended up being an early winter project, now it's too cold for my crew. Added a spin to my N500, ordered from Nacra. Also wanting to add updated graphics to the boat.





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Mac
Midlands South Carolina
AHPC Viper USA 366
A Cat USA 366
Super Cat 17
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way to go bob!...i have done most of these things but over a three year period. sounds like you are organized and in sequence and that will save time overall. take many pics along the way!

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hattiesburg, mississippi
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I would love to put a hooter on my P18 sometime but doubt it will be this year. Is anyone has one just sitting around that they want to donate though I might be interested.

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Member: Utah Sailing Association
1982 Prindle 18
1986 Hobie 17
1982 Prindle 16
1980 Prindle 16(mostly)
1976 Prindle 16(mostly)
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My trailer is pretty crappy, Doing a major overhaul on it including moving the front cradles way forward and building a rear mast support.

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Offering sails and other go fast parts for A-class catamarans
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useing liquid whipping, not to impressed! getting ready for tri-point and bob from mesa,promised damon i would"nt drink too much and post!But whatever im young,winning


wallzie,
winner tri-point
5.2-one board willie
5.5 coming to get-cha-bob

walls619

wallzie,
winner tri-point
5.2-one board willie
5.5 coming to get-cha-bob

Wallzie, did you race last summer as crew with Bob M?

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Prindle 18-2 #244 "Wakizashi"
Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
AZ Multihull Fleet 42 member
(Way) Past Commodore of Prindle Fleet 14
Arizona, USA
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Sail at Christmas-day, its around 8 degrees Celsius overhere.
Install my new Go Pro HD Hero2 on the cat, ( it's a Christmasgift from my wife, discovered it to early) .
Train as long the weather permits us, have a new sailmate and we want to do the round Texel-race this
summer. We both have dry-suits.
RE-install the 4-way jibsheet arrangement on the P18-2.
Sort out the rules in the texelyardstick about having a spi on a P18-2.
If so, arrange the blocks and snuffer on the cat.
Sort out how to put photo's in a post at the beachcat forum,
witch I will try right now;



Regards, André

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Tornado (80's Reg White)
Prindle 18-2 (sold)
Dart 16 (hired and hooked)
13 mtr steel cutter (sold)
Etap 22, unsinkable sailing pocket cruiser.

Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Andre,

You nearly had it, you made a mistake lots of people do by using the page url instead of the image url. Edit your post and you can see the difference in the one I added.

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1992 Hobie 18
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Thanks Damon,

Will try to post a picture now.



Completely of topic of course.

Regards, André

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Prindle 18-2 (sold)
Dart 16 (hired and hooked)
13 mtr steel cutter (sold)
Etap 22, unsinkable sailing pocket cruiser.

Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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