first sailboat(fun!)

So i've been wanting to learn how to sail for a while now and the time is of the essence (summer), so i started out looking for a H18. I missed out on a really really nice one so i decided to widen my searches(not just h18s/hobies etc). I came across a prindle, read a little bit about em, talked to a guy that was familiar with em and didn't hear much bad about it so i went to look at it and it turned out to be a solid boat. Came with everything i needed(cat trax!).

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Overkill is consistently more fun icon_biggrin . Took it out yesterday in a nice 8knot wind and it was a pleasure to sail w/ 3 people ~475 lb. Wind picked up in the afternoon and the waves(whitecaps) did likewise.



Edited by matt922 on May 09, 2011 - 10:12 AM.
Looks like a good looking boat, what is your sailing area?

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damonAdminLooks like a good looking boat, what is your sailing area?

MS gulf coast, i'm about 15 miles from OSYC.. over in Gulfport

picture(with nice water) was taken at fort walton yacht club.
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damonAdminLooks like a good looking boat, what is your sailing area?

MS gulf coast, i'm about 15 miles from OSYC.. over in Gulfport

picture(with nice water) was taken at fort walton yacht club.

The Prindle 19 is a nice boat for the Slip to Ship, so get on the water to build confidence and then show up and get out to the Island!

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That boat was at Juana's last year. Don't remember who had it.

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Brandon, Mississippi
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We were on the deck of Gulfport YC watching you out sailing on Sunday.

We belong to Long Beach YC, and there's a few of us multiple hull guys there - there's a 6.0na, two Farrier trimarans and a G-Cat. Please feel invited to come our way and hang out, and there's opportunities for racing on our side of the Coast coming up

Pass Christian YC is hosting the MS Leukemia Cup https://pcyc-gya.memberstatements.com/tour/tours.cfm?tourid=94652

The Long Beach YC Harbor Races (weekend beercan races) are a fun way to get out on the water - we have staggered starts using our own Po'Boy Handicap Rating Format, course goes around government marks. Prizes are three deep, and are BOOZE! Contact Jay Klassen jaybird1111 at hotmail dot com



Edited by tami on May 09, 2011 - 02:18 PM.
matt922
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Careful leaving it on the beach cleated up like it is in the pic. One good gut and it will go over. I realize you might have done just for the pic but just in case and because you said you were new, you can hand furl the jib around the forestay then use a quick pin or something on the main clew that you can release and let the sail turn with the wind. you still want to keep it turned as much into the wind as you can but that gives you a little leeway for the sail move. Awesome boat a P19 or Nacra 580 is what I will probably look at when I upgrade from my P18.

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1982 Prindle 18
1986 Hobie 17
1982 Prindle 16
1980 Prindle 16(mostly)
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nacra55That boat was at Juana's last year. Don't remember who had it.

Fellow's name was Martin, he even briefly mentioned that regatta.

Re: Tami ,not a member of a yacht club yet so, i can't register for races on regatta network?(correct?) Had some troubles with the jib sheet(lost a pin) so we took it off, so you may have seen us drifting a few times icon_lol

Re: Quarath, pic was taken right after we took it for a spin in the bay, right after that we took the sails off and put it on the trailer.



Edited by matt922 on May 09, 2011 - 04:40 PM.
great to meet another ms coast sailor! we sail out of biloxi right next to the biloxi yacht club...deer island/biloxi bay. that's an awesome looking boat! congrads. look for the topic title O SEGREDO FROTA on the forums for stuff going on...we hit it reguraly for bay sailing, horn island, and both ship islands. our launch spot is awesome and no cat trax needed...it's a public launch and you can put your trailor wheels up to the water.

http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=74558&g2_

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matt922not a member of a yacht club yet so, i can't register for races on regatta network?(correct?)


Regatta Network is powered by USSailing, not the YC, but that doesn't matter in any case.

I'm not and never will be again a member of USSailing and I'm pretty sure I've registered for races via RN.

But y'know, that doesn't matter either - if you have trouble with online registration just contact the regatta organizers and they'll help you out. The only requirement for regatta entry is liability insurance, let me repeat, INSURANCE...
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matt922not a member of a yacht club yet so, i can't register for races on regatta network?(correct?)


Regatta Network is powered by USSailing, not the YC, but that doesn't matter in any case.

I'm not and never will be again a member of USSailing and I'm pretty sure I've registered for races via RN.

But y'know, that doesn't matter either - if you have trouble with online registration just contact the regatta organizers and they'll help you out. The only requirement for regatta entry is liability insurance, let me repeat, INSURANCE...

Ok, so if i want to do Slip to Ship at the end of the month, just contact the person in charge at osyc, prove i have liability ins on the boat at pay the fees?

I've been reading about insurance, which actually seems pretty reasonable from what i've been hearing..($100 or so a year). Kinda need it anyways if i want to bring other people on the boat.

How about boat registration, do all of you MS people have your boats reg'd/numbered?



Edited by matt922 on May 10, 2011 - 07:21 AM.
matt922Ok, so if i want to do Slip to Ship at the end of the month, just contact the person in charge at osyc, prove i have liability ins on the boat at pay the fees?


Sure - just register the day of the race if you like.



matt922I've been reading about insurance, which actually seems pretty reasonable from what i've been hearing..($100 or so a year). Kinda need it anyways if i want to bring other people on the boat.


Yes, liability is relatively inexpensive. You may have coverage via your homeowners' policy, you should check on that. Insurance is a standard regatta requirement, although unfortunately not enforced as often as it should be. Let's put it this way... if you're racing and hit a new NACRA 20 (ca. $20,000) or a carbon Supercat, A, or carbon whatever ($20-$50,000+) that insurance is gonna seem like a great deal....


matt922How about boat registration, do all of you MS people have your boats reg'd/numbered?


On an engine-less boat of less than 20' it's actually not required to have registration, but it really is a good idea. Having your boat registered helps the law enforcement guys if something happens offshore, if your boat drifts away from the beach (it happens with some frequency) or boat is stolen (happens with depressing frequency, just ask Bob Rashka). You can get nice looking reg. numbers cut from a decal shop reasonably cheaply, and the registration itself isn't that expensive ~30.00
QuoteHow about boat registration, do all of you MS people have your boats reg'd/numbered?



yes..you should for many reasons. it's the law...and it makes you legal to boat in all states. always carry your registration card with in case you meet the man(they like that). it makes it easy to sell the boat down the line also...you don't have to have a title in ms but if your registered then the sale is no problems. i recommend taking the small boat education course(free) on the ms dept of wildlife and fisheries site, it's online and is filled with all you need to know about safe, legal boating. your insurance will probably require it also(registration that is). anyone born after 1985 is required to pass the course and pay the 35$ to get the liscense to operate personal watercraft(not sailboats) but the course is a must for knowing the "ropes" on the water.

http://www.boat-ed.com/Mississippi/index.html

here's the link!

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i already have my "boater's license", cool thing about sailboats is they always get the right of way icon_biggrin

The two of you pretty much demonstrated my question and the responses i've seen/heard. I've heard many say you dont have to, and some say you have to (maybe the law changed to increase revenue?). Problem is, my boat doesn't have a VIN. icon_confused
matt922i already have my "boater's license", cool thing about sailboats is they always get the right of way icon_biggrin


In Theory not always in practice. Especially when it comes to PWCs

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1986 Hobie 17
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I might have this wrong, but sailboats do not always have the right of way. A burdened vessel such as a shrimp boat with nets down, or a vessel restricted to the channel by draft have the right of way.
Your boat should have a VIN. Look for a serial number to be stamped on the transoms somewhere.
Not to hijack thread but... A buddy and myself were discussing "burdened" vessels and wondered if motorboats "towing" a tube or skier count and have right of way?

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There is a "pecking order" that can be used as a simplified memory aid to determine right of way for vessels
of different types. Get very familiar with this list, as it is important to understand it thoroughly. The lower most
vessel on the list is the give way vessel, and must stay out of the way of vessels that are higher on the list:

Overtaken vessel (top priority)

Vessels not under command
Vessels restricted in their ability to maneuver
Vessels constrained by draft
Fishing vessels engaged in fishing, with gear deployed
Vessels restricted in their ability to maneuver
Sailing vessels
Power driven vessels
tamiYour boat should have a VIN. Look for a serial number to be stamped on the transoms somewhere.

Yep, previous owner looked, i looked, its not there. The boat was supposedly raced at/out of Key Sailing in Pensacola during the early stage of its life.

Re: pecking order.. I'm not gonna drive my boat into something bigger/slower/commercial/not moving, so no problems there.



Edited by matt922 on May 10, 2011 - 02:39 PM.
Could be a transom repair job has covered over the stamped HIN.

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1980 Prindle 16(mostly)
1976 Prindle 16(mostly)

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i'm no laywer, but reads like all sailboats need numbers...buddy told me the law changed for the '06 season. i used to think thats cats didn't need numbers but when i bought my boat 3 years ago i found nothing supporting this assumption and only clear law saying you do...matter of fact, as the letter of the law, you need all the safety equipment required for vessels 16'-25' such as flares, throw cushions, etc., many things most cat sailors don't carry on there boats most of the time. our experience has been the man checks you out when your fishing way more than cat sailing unless your doing something dumb(no life jackets on boat or equal). but check out the rules real close, you might be surprised.

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http://home.mdwfp.com/License/info.aspx?id=36

i'm no laywer, but reads like all sailboats need numbers...buddy told me the law changed for the '06 season. i used to think thats cats didn't need numbers but when i bought my boat 3 years ago i found nothing supporting this assumption and only clear law saying you do...matter of fact, as the letter of the law, you need all the safety equipment required for vessels 16'-25' such as flares, throw cushions, etc., many things most cat sailors don't carry on there boats most of the time. our experience has been the man checks you out when your fishing way more than cat sailing unless your doing something dumb(no life jackets on boat or equal). but check out the rules real close, you might be surprised.

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QuarathCould be a transom repair job has covered over the stamped HIN.

Most likely as there are reinforcement plates behind the fiberglass on the transom. My boat has hull ports on both sides of the rear crossbar. Originally i think p19s only came with them forward of the rear crossbar.

coastrathttp://home.mdwfp.com/License/info.aspx?id=36

i'm no laywer, but reads like all sailboats need numbers...buddy told me the law changed for the '06 season. i used to think thats cats didn't need numbers but when i bought my boat 3 years ago i found nothing supporting this assumption and only clear law saying you do...


same here. The fact that most cats around today are much older than the
law is might have something to do with it. Even 15 years after the law requiring sailboats to be reg'd people selling them are still claiming they dont have to be.

Looks like i'll have to go through this:
mdwfpDue to the increase in marine theft, a closer look is being taken at applications for boat registration when received. Applications for boat registration with required information missing or information which appears to be incorrect, will be sent back to the applicant along with a boat inspection form to be completed by a conservation officer.
QuarathCould be a transom repair job has covered over the stamped HIN.

Most likely as there are reinforcement plates behind the fiberglass on the transom. My boat has hull ports on both sides of the rear crossbar. Originally i think p19s only came with them forward of the rear crossbar.

coastrathttp://home.mdwfp.com/License/info.aspx?id=36

i'm no laywer, but reads like all sailboats need numbers...buddy told me the law changed for the '06 season. i used to think thats cats didn't need numbers but when i bought my boat 3 years ago i found nothing supporting this assumption and only clear law saying you do...


same here. The fact that most cats around today are much older than the
law is might have something to do with it. Even 15 years after the law requiring sailboats to be reg'd people selling them are still claiming they dont have to be.

Looks like i'll have to go through this:
mdwfpDue to the increase in marine theft, a closer look is being taken at applications for boat registration when received. Applications for boat registration with required information missing or information which appears to be incorrect, will be sent back to the applicant along with a boat inspection form to be completed by a conservation officer.
@matt922,

The law has indeed changed, I see. It was several years ago that I had a chat with our local marine officer and we discussed the law. If the guy is still on staff, he's at Marine Patrol, and his name is Charlie Vyles. He's super nice and will help you out. See if you can look him up - he'll get you a transom number