I'm thinking of upgradeing my traveler/car/track from set up pictured below. What would the "experts" here advise?




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How were the blocks attached to the traveler? Is that a broken rivet or bolt? If you can I'd clean everything in sight, replace your sheet, lube all contact areas with McLube dry lubricant.
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Damon,
I basically did what you said last year and sailed it one season. I replaced the missing bolt but in the process lost 2 bearings form the traveler and now it seems rough and loud when it "travels". I cannot seem to find the correct bearings on the net.

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You never mentioned the make of your boat, but it appears to be a Nacra. Look for a used traveler, Harken if possible. It will be an easy job. Remove the end stop, slide old one off, new one on replace end stop and you are done.

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So I shouldn't have sent him my name, address and email, along with a picture of my wife?

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So I shouldn't have sent him my name, address and email, along with a picture of my wife?

Depends on the wife.

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Looks like an old nacra traveler. I bet is has the rings with a bunch of small ball bearings in it. If you lose one or a few, it is about impossible to get them back in the car.

I would look into replacing the car with a Harken unit--you will have to make sure that the measurements of the track will work with the Harkens. Otherwise, seriously think about replacing the track as well.

The car you have pictured probably will not work out for you. You do not want your main traveler to be limited by a pin. You should either remove the pin system or tie a line under he top to have it permanently pulled up.

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Sorry thought my boat type was in my sig. I have a '77 Nacra5.2. It is what you described Dan. i got the bearings back in using the "shaving cream" method but in the process lost one in the grass.

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I've been looking for a new travler system for a 5.2 also - I've found a company called Rig-Rite that has replacement parts for the old Kenyon (I think) nacra systems.... part number - KT-10507-SA it is priced at about half of what a new harken track and car will run so I'm going to go with the new myself. Ronstan also seems to make a nice replacement system - track and all...

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Thanks Eric. That site looks to be what I'm looking for. Let me know how yours turns out.

Gray

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Gray Amick
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As Dan said, you will have to be sure your new car fits the track. On the Harken site, under Technical, or Catalogs they have some diagrams with dimensions of different tracks. You can then cross reference any used car you buy, & see if it fits your track.

http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/b45b96ae#/b45b96ae/102

The Harken site will tell you what track # is compatible with what car. There are some warnings about the newer captive bearing cars not fitting the older tracks.
If you replace the track, check what the spacing for the holes is. It would be a pain to have to redrill all those holes.
Other considerations are traveler cleat base is supposed to be level, check the Nacra Manuals, I think a boomless system has a slightly different track orientation than the boomed models. A swiveling top on the car is not required, as the connection between car & block will allow for the change in angles that occurs as you sheet hard. you can see that in the photo of my 5.7 setup. My boat has the longer Harken car,(appx 4") they make a shorter one too, & it is easy to get replacement bearings for them if needed. You want your car to slide easily, so that it will move unassisted, even in light winds. Buy or borrow a car loader if you get a system with non captive bearings. It makes life easier. I've done it without one, didn't know the shaving cream trick at the time.
I believe your 5.2 uses a slightly different traveler sheet arrangement.


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EC, speaking of traveller cars. I notice you are using a 2:1 purchase setup on your traveller. You may want to add a stand up block and make it 3:1, a really simple modification that makes life quite a bit easier. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35615



Edited by Wolfman on May 12, 2011 - 10:23 AM.

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Sorry thought my boat type was in my sig. (

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You may want to add a stand up block and make it 3:1, a really simple modification that makes life quite a bit easier.

I hadn't thought of that, mine is just set up as per the factory manual. The disadvantage is you would have to pull more line. It actually is surprisingly easy to work just the 2:1. When out in heavy wind, or if I have a newbie at the helm, I have hold of the traveler line, even if i'm forward in the "crew" position. I let the newb steer & sheet the main, with only a few verbal cautions. If they do pooch it, I use the traveler line as a "saved your ass" line, I can dump major power in an instant.
When soloing I hang the line around the the end of the beam, or hold it along with the tiller, & take the time to change it each tack. If it turns out I'm fighting to stay upright, I just travel out a bit. If the wind lets up, I can immediately travel in, without having to head up so I can go get the line without dumping. I thought the forces on that line would be higher, but it is easy to travel in or out using only one hand, even in 30 mph wind.
I find soloing that boat I have to be organized. It is very easy to tip once the wind gets up to 20 mph, I can fly a hull at 10 mph. I have the main in one hand, tiller/traveler line in the other, jib sheet hanging across my forward knee. It takes a bit more time to arrange them all each tack, but i can power up or down as needed or wind changes dictate.

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Got sig fixed. Thanks Damon.

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Got sig fixed. Thanks Damon.

Good job, that's the way I wish everyone would do their signature, makes communication a lot better when you know basic name/boat/location when talking to someone.

Rather than, "yeah sdfsdfsdf that would probably work, but maybe you should try dfsd's suggestion".

I get a little aggravated because I know there are folks on the forums that I've met in person but have no idea who they are behind their usernames.

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EC, speaking of traveller cars. I notice you are using a 2:1 purchase setup on your traveller. You may want to add a stand up block and make it 3:1, a really simple modification that makes life quite a bit easier. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35615Edited by Wolfman on May 12, 2011 - 10:23 AM.

Dave,
Adding a small shackle will turn that block 90 degrees and allow it to lay flat against the beam, making the sheeting force MUCH easier. The way you have it now, as sheeting forces increase, it will compress the sheet/block against the beam, making it harder. At least that is the way it looks in the picture.

It is mostly unwarranted to need 3:1 for traveler on a beachcat. 12 oz. curls are required training . . .

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