I'm going to help my buddy pick up a Nacra 36 tomorrow, disassemble it & load on a trailer to bring back to his hangar for some winter refurbishing.
Apparently I'm required as he could use some extra hands for loading the mast. Sounds like large shirt size, small hat size stuff.
I was also told to show up at his aerospace engineering works early to witness a "first run" before we move the Cat.
Me "What exactly is a first run?"
Him "that new rocket nozzle I showed you is ready, the contractor wants us to try an 8000lb thrust burn for 27 seconds"
Me "Might this end badly?"
Him "You airline guys are so predictable, no sense of adventure. Sure, it's a new nozzle, but there are lots of safety features built in, & we'll be in a bomb proof bunker for the burn."
Me " I just know that when I light off an engine, I expect it to run, not explode, for a hell of a lot longer than 27 seconds. And I'm pretty sure my life insurance policy has a clause that prohibits taking part in test firing of experimental rocket engines.
Him "It's not a new engine, only the nozzle"
Me "Might this end badly?"
Him "Wuss"
Me " OK, I'll be there, I'll bring a crash helmet & flame proof suit"
Him "Wuss"
So barring any event where were get turned into Southern Fried Chicken, I'll post some photos of N36 serial #3 tomorrow.
Philip, I forgot, the boat will be sailed on the Canadian side of Lake Erie...

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would definitely grant a big ole head scratch



Edited by matt922 on Nov 03, 2011 - 05:25 PM.

He definitely needs some help sailing that thing. Someone with a skill set just like mine and who lives in Canada. Hey! I think we have a match. Looks nice.

nice, and must be good to know parts should be available from nacra australia now

once it's sailing he might want to add the super-long bench seats as in the pic above

the new ozzie boat has been winning it's races;o)

How many 36s might there be in the US?

Ok Ok.. NOW I see why the tramp on the 5.2s is a pain in the assstubula. It is 1/2 size.. It does not have two outboards mounted on the stern .. No JIb.. and not too busy tramp. and no hotties on the tramp to open the bruz-skis and sun .. Not sure it even has daggers.. But have no fear. Our fearless co pilot (Who some folks trust (and pay money ) to get some scrap metal back and forth to the orient in the air will be on board to assist..) Perhaps it is cuz Canadian waters are different than the US liquid ( Spoke with him today and he mentioned something about the density of salt water compaired to fresh?? Left my hydrometer at home) ) I understand why he needs the crash helmet and the flame proof suit. (Is that a Calvin Cline 1990 3 button style suit??.. )

I Sure wish I could be on that treck. Actually.. I would just love to be just on the setup/lunch committee. Calif has NO NACRAs.. Especially old Nacras.. The nacra Natzie said.. NO Nacras for you!! Thank god our feerless "CO PILOT" is saving me with some 5.2 parts for my project boat and it is only costing me a visit from he and Wife a visit and a show and tell about California life. Perhaps he will move and start a group here ... and Bring Parts from from Nacra heaven.. The hand-me-down parts center is for me.. A vain but hopefull attempt to save yet one more 5.2 on the west coast and show the Hobie nation that they do not have the only answer and get OVER IT !! Horzioned several H's last weekend.. Good luck with the treck his weekend. (The skipper is used to going to the orient so check the GPS frequently.. ) .. As Damion would say.. "Open a new thread and ??&&^^$$" Yata..Yata.. Yata.. Love that guy) Remember.. people dont do really well in Flame proof suits. Pix tomorrowwwww please !! Cheers.. P S Still 50 dregrees in the water S.f. Bay and 65 F. air and 20 kts wind in the Bay and it could be a go for Sat. Skiing ther yet ?? He He.. Cheers Hal


If you dont have a Nacra dont thinking about moving to Califonia unlless you have a N 35..

Love this site..

You guys.. Not so mutch..

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Where did yo find this one?

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about a year or so ago someone was selling 1 for about $100k???

from memory it was an original 1975? boat but had recently been substantially updated/rebuilt

as you'd expect for 37yo boat at that price...

let's face it performance boats of this size without accommodation have a very limited market and probably only get sailed a few times a year at a cost that probably works out as the price of the average 2nd hand beachcat each time. transporting them is a real issue

in the usa a similar sized new boat, the lightspeed 32 failed to find a market

in canada the toro 32? has slowly been edging forward for years without hitting the water yet, afaik

in australia the new n36 has more people impressed than willing to put a deposit down

they might look like double sized beachcats

but they are in fact something else entirerly

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How many 36s might there be in the US?

I think there are only 3 out of 10 still in existence. One for sure is in Oz, upside down so to speak, one is in Canada, that leaves one other somewhere.

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boats of this size without accommodation have a very limited market and probably only get sailed a few times a year

I will second that. It is unbelievably bloody big, as in 20' wide. He needs a 36' slip for it, so yeah it's not like popping my 5.7 of the dock & pushing off.
Here is an industrial forklift moving after stripping the mast & tramp.

Serial #3

You can play volley ball on that tramp area

Almost loaded, damn that stick is long.

I can't wait to see it on the water next season.
The rocket burn was a bust, something about some thermocouple not sending signals. My buddys says they built it to spec, but he doesn't see it surviving the pressures, something about carbon transferring heat to quickly, he thinks it will blow.
I offered the advice to "just light that candle, who the Hell needs a lousy thermocouple, especially when it's going to emulate napalm anyway"
They didn't buy my idea, guess, I'm not a rocket scientist, damn, I was going to get to push the "red button", & thereby become a rocket man!

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Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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OH MAN! Let me know how it goes! I will fly down to the Big Smoke just for a chance to ride on that thing!! I am supposed to be making regular trips to Niagara Falls next summer for work so maybe we can work something out?

Regards,
Dave

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1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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That boat is bad ass...
Never heard of it before looks scarey fast :)

On the last day of the 1st Multihull Symposium in Toronto in 1976, friend Reggie Jaworski said "are you going home, Pete"? I said yes. Not going to stay for the dinner? Phil Weld will give the speech. I decided to stay. About 8 of us at a table & 100 in the room. A large screen slide show was going on near the front. The 36' cat was barely visible, mostly just spray. It was the Nacra 36. And then Phil Weld got up to speak. I never forgot every moment of that dinner. Pete



Edited by pbegle on Nov 05, 2011 - 03:58 PM.

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I will fly down to the Big Smoke

You should drive down Dave, then you could tow back all the crap I have for you!

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On the last day of the 1st Multihull Symposium in Toronto in 1976

The 36 must have been brand new then Pete. The HIN plate shows it as a 1976. I'm not sure when the first one was built, this one is serial #3.

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Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
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Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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Unfortunately I've done that drive, twice. I would rather pay for the shipping, than lose another 8 days of my life (there and back). Especially towing a trailor down HWY 1 North, might be the most dangerous road I've ever seen.

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Dave Bonin
1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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retro footage of N36 #8 on youtube..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS7r9U7TKbU



Edited by matt922 on Nov 05, 2011 - 11:23 PM.

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I think there are only 3 out of 10 still in existence. One for sure is in Oz, upside down so to speak, one is in Canada, that leaves one other somewhere.

There was one here local (Ventura, CA) called 2 of 10...it was hull number 2. I think it may still be in the area but not being sailed. It is for sale at least it was a few years back. The owner has moved back to New Zealand and put it in storage. The boat had undergone a massive refit and was regularly sailing in 2005. It has all sorts of new stuff added to the boat to make it ORCA legal to the tune of $100K.

It was a sight to see! I'll try and find some pix and post them later... I know I have them.

I believe it was hull # 1 that broke up in a race off the California coast years ago so the ledged goes

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video that shows a little what these big beachcats are like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDM0LBaePAo&feature=channel_video_title

Sorry to bring back this old thread. Edchris177, did tour friend ever get his Roland 36 going?

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did tour friend ever get his Roland 36 going?

He got busy with aerospace crap last year, & decided the boat needed some work that required dry dock to do properly. He also wants to engineer a front tramp, using an old N5.2 mast as the spar.
Rather than rent a slip for perhaps one shakedown sail, he decided to delay everything for a season. I intend to be on the 1st sail & will post photos when it gets rigged, hopefully this summer.

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Anyone want to partner up on Stars & Stripes?

Not bad, only 99K, though the main sail is damaged. Would be cheap on gas, only has a 30hp outboard, complete with 5 gal tank.

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Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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Thanks for the update. I would love to see pictures of her when she is done.
I have been doing some research for my dad lately on the 36's. I know you had mentioned this one might be hull number 3, but I can assure you it's not. Hull number 3 washed up on the shores of Mexico in the late 70's in hundreds of pieces. It's a long story but hull number 3 was my dads boat. He bought the hulls beams and mast from T Roland when they first came out and built it from the ground up. He sold it to a guy that was going to take it to Mexico for charters and sank it along the way. Here is a link to some pictures I scanned in the other day.http://s603.photobucket.c…Nacra%2036?sort=3&page=1

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nhanson

http://www.morrellimelvin.com/brokerage/index.html

Anyone want to partner up on Stars & Stripes? Here in Chicago! Just need a parking space ... a big one.

Haha: Rig: After de-masting the rig was cut away, fell to a depth of 300', and was recovered the next day. It has had Infrared testing performed, however if the Nomex core core was damaged due to pressure at depth is unknown. There is a high probablility a new rig will be required.

If you've got a spare $150K lying around for a new rig and new main plus all the other work maybe. I'd offer ~$60K on the platform as is since it's not even remotely sail-able...and is an 80's boat.

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I know you had mentioned this one might be hull number 3, but I can assure you it's not.

Interesting stuff. I was going by the numbers on the ID plate, as shown below, maybe it's #7?


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Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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