so i got the sticker off now i need to rig it and when i was looking at the bridles i could not figure it out.

the line connects to the same place as the wires. what is it for?
also does this boat rig up the same as a hobie 16?
thanks

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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There is supposed to be a 10-hole stay adjuster attached to those "turnbuckles"

pic 21

That line is for some other purpose

i have the adjuster its on the forstay. do you have any idea what the line it for?

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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That part that the ring is attached to is not a Nacra part. I have no idea what it may have been used for on a Nacra 5.2, unless it was something used to help step the mast with a line running through the ring. Just a guess.

Prindle 16s and 18s used that between the bridle wires and the turn buckle on the end of the fore stay attached to it. Not the ring though.

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Ron
Nacra F18
Reservoir Sailing Assn.
Brandon, Mississippi
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not on my 5.2 either

where do the nylon lines go?

That's not a standard Nacra part.

I do think that you need to get some new bridle wires. I've been on the water with less rust on mine and while we were 2 on the wire, and we had cranked the downhaul and outhaul. When puling the main tight the bridle exploded! we limped back to the beach with only 4 of 9 parts of the wire still attached.

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dichtbijzee

That's not a standard Nacra part.

I do think that you need to get some new bridle wires. I've been on the water with less rust on mine and while we were 2 on the wire, and we had cranked the downhaul and outhaul. When puling the main tight the bridle exploded! we limped back to the beach with only 4 of 9 parts of the wire still attached.

im looking at the the wires to see what the owner needs. i need shrouds for sure as they are frayed.

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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erice

not on my 5.2 either

where do the nylon lines go?

same place as the bridle on both sides

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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my guess is:
looks like a custom (jerry rigged) bridal system, and the lines are there to avoid it slipping around during stepping (or from sliding while sailing)

If you need a new bridal setup, call mike at ellie's sail shop in clearwater if you need help


PS your hand looks HUGE compared to the cat in this pic with that perspective.

optikid

so i got the sticker off now i need to rig it and when i was looking at the bridles i could not figure it out.

the line connects to the same place as the wires. what is it for?
also does this boat rig up the same as a hobie 16?
thanks

Edited by MN3 on Jan 21, 2013 - 08:19 AM.

so what would the ring be for?



Edited by optikid on Jan 21, 2013 - 09:29 AM.

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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the forestay wraps around it (loops from that ring to the eye of the forestay, just like the ring on a jib furler

if a longer pin was used and the ring was pinned in the same whole as the 2 bridal wires, the 2 guy lines would not be needed

the trailer looks brand new...
But it doesn't look like there is any carpet on the cradles. if there isn't ... he/you should add some asap or it will mess up the hulls when taking on/off the trailer

it is new, i believe there is carpet

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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It may just be the perspective of the photo, but it appears your front beam is rotated somewhat. The DS rod should be vertical, & the ends of the V brace strap(where they touch the hulls)must be up against the small SS tang that is set in the side of the hull.
Download both manuals from the tech section, thyere old, but they have the intel you need for that boat.
As stated the ring/lines are not any standard NACRA part.
Did the previous owner sail on the ocean, perhaps where there wasn't a convenient beach to pull up on?
That line & ring could just be a convenient way to attach the boat to an anchor. The ring would be clipped to the mooring line, allowing the boat to swing freely into the wind, while crew takes a break.
The mast appears to use the non captive base.Be very careful, to not let the base pops off while stepping. If you ever need a spare boom let me know, I have 2 of them.
Tie a stopper knot in your traveler line so the car won't quite hit the ends of the track.
It does not appear to have the pivmatics, or any kickup device...try not to hit any reefs!
Make sure you have a system to hold the daggers in place, if you flip the boat & they happen to slide out...they don't float.



Edited by Edchris177 on Jan 21, 2013 - 04:03 PM.

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Edchris177

It may just be the perspective of the photo, but it appears your front beam is rotated somewhat. The DS rod should be vertical, & the ends of the V brace strap(where they touch the hulls)must be up against the small SS tang that is set in the side of the hull.
Download both manuals from the tech section, thyere old, but they have the intel you need for that boat.
As stated the ring/lines are not any standard NACRA part.
Did the previous owner sail on the ocean, perhaps where there wasn't a convenient beach to pull up on?
That line & ring could just be a convenient way to attach the boat to an anchor. The ring would be clipped to the mooring line, allowing the boat to swing freely into the wind, while crew takes a break.
The mast appears to use the non captive base.Be very careful, to not let the base pops off while stepping. If you ever need a spare boom let me know, I have 2 of them.
Tie a stopper knot in your traveler line so the car won't quite hit the ends of the track.
It does not appear to have the pivmatics, or any kickup device...try not to hit any reefs!
Make sure you have a system to hold the daggers in place, if you flip the boat & they happen to slide out...they don't float.Edited by Edchris177 on Jan 21, 2013 - 04:03 PM.

the guy i working on it for bought it 3 years ago something happened and has was unable to sail it. he has never rigged it. i haven't seen his daggerboads or sails yet

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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I wonder if the ring goes at the end of the bridle wires with the shackle facing up where the adjuster would mount and the lines were backup shroud wires in case the bridle broke. Just a thought.

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I have a line sort-of like that. on My 5.2 which I use as an anchor bridle. The anchor is an extra safety feature to me and I use it to have lunch whenever I spend a long day on the water and can't be bothered to pull it up on shore. Anchoring without a bridle is no fun at all because the boat will either sail and drag the anchor or shear from side to side hitting me over the head with the boom whenever I'm not looking. ( I almost think it does that on purpose
If you don't need it you may as well lose it, it would just add clutter and it also makes handling on the ground that much more hassle.

Yeah that is definitely not stock. Start from a stock setup and adjust to fit your taste later. If you don't have it, you will need a 10 hole adjuster to connect the bridles to the forestay. If you don't have the little steel triangle to attach the jib to the adjuster you can just use a bow shackle instead. Simpler is better at the start, then you can get fancy with things like portuguese turnbuckles, roller furlers etc etc.

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1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Edchris got me thinking- I think I only secure the boards with the side loaders, but they can be pulled straight out. Any suggestions as to how to do it differently? I'm seriously looking forward to another thing to add to the already time-consuming rigging procedure.

BTW- maybe all the recent rains will bring the GA/SC lake levels back up so we can get the cat in the water instead of the mud.

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Force 5 project boat
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Previous boat
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"Double Vision"
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how about a simple bungee lanyard loop around the side stay ?

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Any suggestions as to how to do it differently?

hyperope

Edchris got me thinking- I think I only secure the boards with the side loaders, but they can be pulled straight out. Any suggestions as to how to do it differently? I'm seriously looking forward to another thing to add to the already time-consuming rigging procedure.

BTW- maybe all the recent rains will bring the GA/SC lake levels back up so we can get the cat in the water instead of the mud.

the f18 sailors at my club tie the blades together then put one under both the hiking straps

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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i used the trailer winch to raise it and haven't taken the line off yet



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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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so i was looking at it today and found some more questions.
can some one describe the jib halyard, i thought it would be like my 16, but there is a block on the wire then the one end of the line ends at the block with a bowline the other end goes threw a v cleat.


that block is not supposed to be there right?


is that line and blocks on the boom supposed to be a boom vang? and do i tie any thing to the rotator bar?



Edited by optikid on Jan 25, 2013 - 03:26 PM.

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
--

The block is used to double the purchase on the jib downhaul.

Some used the block on the rear beam to double the purchase on the main traveler.

The boom is upside down. the line and block is part of your rotator and should be connected to the "rotator bar".



Edited by nacra55 on Jan 25, 2013 - 03:39 PM.

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Ron
Nacra F18
Reservoir Sailing Assn.
Brandon, Mississippi
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There is no block block on the mast.for the jib I must be missing it. How do I set up the block for the traveler?
And the boom is not upside down because the outhaul is on the top right now.and the only spot for the.main block is on the bottom. Were do the rotation lines go? Thanks

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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Do you have the two manuals from the Albums- Tech? Most of what you need is in them, though the photos are a bit grainy.
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35212

Jibs are item 60 in the second manual.


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Rotator picture
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=74198

Another with rotator on top like most are
Also shows block on halyard with downhaul on front of mast
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35570

and another
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35584



Edited by nacra55 on Jan 25, 2013 - 05:18 PM.

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Ron
Nacra F18
Reservoir Sailing Assn.
Brandon, Mississippi
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Here's a pic of the travler rigged with the block on beam
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35578

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Ron
Nacra F18
Reservoir Sailing Assn.
Brandon, Mississippi
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optikid

can some one describe the jib halyard, i thought it would be like my 16, but there is a block on the wire then the one end of the line ends at the block with a bowline the other end goes threw a v cleat.

You aren't missing anything. Some boats had a wire block on the mast with the wire part of the jib halyard going thru that.

Some had the wire block off a pigtail on the fore stay. It sounds like that's what you have. I've hunted for a picture for you but have yet to find one. Look on page 8, standing rigging picture 2, you should have something like that. http://www.clublocarno.co…ocuments/NacraManual.pdf

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Ron
Nacra F18
Reservoir Sailing Assn.
Brandon, Mississippi
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In Pic 2, the blocks and red line on the port side of the mast are your main downhaul, but I do not see a mast rotation control arm attached to the mast?

Is that rod sticking out of the sail track just underneath the boom some kind of improvised rotator arm? if so it looks like the block and line running underneath the boom would attach to the end of the rod using a shackle through the hole on the end of the rod.

PS, that rod dangerously sharp sticking out like that, how is it attached to the mast?

i think i figured out the jib but what are the holes for?


i dont know how the rod is held in i think maybe its welded


can someone tell me what the eye straps are for?





Edited by optikid on Jan 26, 2013 - 08:08 PM.

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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the dangerous rod is the early mast rotation 1975 - 1977???

my 1982 has a wishbone with a crimped end and a small block, sharp and still dangerous if a novice tries to stay on the tramp during a pitchpole..

from about 1984 the wishbone was as the above pic, fully bend to shape with a nice smooth end needing no block... would still have your eye out but wouldn't puncture the skull...so if you are going to pitchpole, stay off the tramp....and if you have novices on board who may try to stay on the tramp during a pitchpole, don't sail that aggressively that it's possible

the saddles/eye-straps on the boom are for a 2 into 1 purchase for the outhaul, is that not in the manual?



Edited by erice on Jan 27, 2013 - 02:00 AM.

it should be but i cant find it

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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Photo Albums -> Catamaran Technical Tips -> Page 4 -> Nacra Rigging & Assembly -> Nacra 5.2 & 5.5

or

http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=35217

..........

a very basic old pic of a 1982 5.2 here

http://www.thebeachcats.c…ctures/?g2_itemId=101126

basically you will need a small floating block and a short length of line



Edited by erice on Jan 27, 2013 - 04:12 PM.

So I got all New rigging and its set as loose as posiable but its still very tight the mast cant move back and forth at all.should it be that tight? THANKS

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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do you have the standard chainplate adjusters on, you can use longer ones or even double up if you have to ?

can you lower the mast ball?

the mast needs to be loose enough so that it auto-rotates when tacking

It rotates fine it just is super tight

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
--

if, when tacking and gybing, the mast automatically rotates as the wind hits the other side of the sail

with mainsheet released

it's ok

so they guy who owns this boats wants to put a bow trampoline on it now, like on a getaway. is it possible?
he only plans on sailing in light wind and when its not very wavy. thank

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Angelo
1983 Hobie 16 Cat fever #55697
2008 laser 4.7/radial #190471
SARASOTA, FLORIDA
S.S.S
S.Y.S.P
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could be done but would need to be done correctly

ie pop off the bow decks

add extra glass for a structural bow spreader bar, top section of a carbon windsurfer mast?, and tramp mounts

while decks were off check stringer bonding and maybe make and add a glass\foam10mm?\glass bulkhead about a meter fwd of the beam



Edited by erice on Aug 25, 2013 - 08:03 PM.

Yes it could be done, however you won't put anyone out there. The 5.2 does not tolerate weight very well. I think we have been down this road 2 summers ago.

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Front tramp on a 5.2 is a bad idea, not enough floatation in the front to handle it.

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1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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http://www.thebeachcats.c…ctures/?g2_itemId=103791
click the link if the pic doesn't show

Thanks our point exactly. The 5.2 does not tolerate weight very well. If you think it does then we have to agree to disagree.

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Edited by erice on Aug 27, 2013 - 10:04 PM.

Check this out for bow flotation.

Getaway



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