Stupid Newby Questions; Part Deux

OK you guys, with any luck I will be getting the new (to me) Prindle wet this weekend! As that time approaches, I realize I have a ton of unanswered questions.

1. Storage? No trunk, not even a glovebox icon_smile I was thinking an old backpack lashed to the mast for sunscreen, gloves, extra hardware, misc tools etc.

2. Keeping stuff dry, cell phones, key remotes, GPS etc?

3. Drinks? The Hobie Getaway has it handled, but for the rest of us what works, soft coolers? Lashed to ?

4. Boat names? I notice very few cats that are named, is it considered bad taste, or just the fact that the transom(s) are so small?

5. Paddles/Oars? I grabbed a couple of long lightweight kayaking paddles, where is the best place to stow them?

Thanks for all your help!

Kevin
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1. Storage? No trunk, not even a glovebox icon_smile I was thinking an old backpack lashed to the mast for sunscreen, gloves, extra hardware, misc tools etc.

2. Keeping stuff dry, cell phones, key remotes, GPS etc?

3. Drinks? The Hobie Getaway has it handled, but for the rest of us what works, soft coolers? Lashed to ?

4. Boat names? I notice very few cats that are named, is it considered bad taste, or just the fact that the transom(s) are so small?

5. Paddles/Oars? I grabbed a couple of long lightweight kayaking paddles, where is the best place to stow them?

Thanks for all your help!

Kevin

1. Don't take a lot of stuff on the boat. Be careful about attaching anything to the mast, can fowl your jib sheets at the worst possible moment.

2. Don't take anything on the boat you don't want to get wet. GPS can be waterproof model, I've used the Garmin eTrex line for years.

3. Use small soft cooler and tie the handle to the center tramp lacing.

4. up to you, but if the boat already has a name, be careful about changing it.

5. paddle can be lashed to boom or under rear lacing where it's harder to get to but more out of the way.

Get on the water and all will become clear!

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1 & 2 - SealLine Dry Bag - 5 Liters, your on a prindle , loose footed main, attach it to the boom.

3 - Tie soft sided cooler to hiking straps keeping cooler in the center of the boat. I put it just in front of the rear beam

5 - if I carry a paddle it's a collapsible, bunged to the boom.

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I bent 3/8" aluminum rod to hold my small cooler around the mast base on mine.

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cellguru1. Storage? No trunk, not even a glovebox I was thinking an old backpack lashed to the mast for sunscreen, gloves, extra hardware, misc tools etc.
2. Keeping stuff dry, cell phones, key remotes, GPS etc?
3. Drinks? The Hobie Getaway has it handled, but for the rest of us what works, soft coolers? Lashed to ?
4. Boat names? I notice very few cats that are named, is it considered bad taste, or just the fact that the transom(s) are so small?
5. Paddles/Oars? I grabbed a couple of long lightweight kayaking paddles, where is the best place to stow them?

Does your Prindle have ports on the decks of the hulls?
Food, drink and storage are yours inside the hulls. Keep them in waterproof containers. Someone here uses a plastic peanut butter jar to keep his cell phone dry on board.
If no ports, use secure storage tied to the boom, lacing or crossbar or wherever you deem to be accessable but out of the way.
I have a zippered pocket sewn onto my tramp, and a small cloth zippered pouch with velcro straps to store drinks topsides.
Put your paddles under your tramp bungeed to the rear lacing so they will be accessable but out of the way.
Boat names go on the sides in big letters and reflective tape. And flames. There should be flames!



Edited by klozhald on Jun 13, 2013 - 06:55 PM.

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Get on the water and all will become clear!


LOL, alrighty then!

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QuoteBoat names go on the sides in big letters and reflective tape. And flames. There should be flames!


OK, I will wait until after our maiden voyage to decide.

Depending on how things go, we'll name her "Collateral Damage" or "Bernoulli Effect"

Thanks for all the ideas

Kevin
klozhaldDoes your Prindle have ports on the decks of the hulls?
Food, drink and storage are yours inside the hulls.

These things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls. icon_lol

http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=74578&g2_serialNumber=5 http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=74581&g2_serialNumber=5

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You gonna go out this weekend? If so where? I will probably go sail at rockport on the 29th. I have a small soft six Pak size cooler I keep in the front center of tramp. Bought it at SIDS in Salt Lake a few years go. It is not perfect but has some attach points. It s wearing out so I am looking at kayak cooler. they can be pretty low profile . I usually keep a dry bag attached so where as well. Sometimes just. Mesh bag with a few water bottles.

I have a wood paddle bungied to the rear lacing. I find a cooler in back interferes to much with the main sheet. Port bags are cool I don't have any yet. I wold not put emergency stuff in them as you may not be able to get to it if you need it.

If your in SLC area feel free to give me a ring or text you are welcome to come look at mine. Hopefully we an hook up at one of lakes soon. I will be camping at Bear Lake with the Utah Sailing Association the weekend following July 4th. Primo group camping. You would more than welcome to come with Family. It would cost you about $50(family) for 3 nights including some racing (informal) and dinner SAT night.

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QuoteThese things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls.


Hmmmm . . . looks like something for my Mom's old Electrolux Damon icon_smile

Where do you get them?

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Paddles? We don' need no steenkeen paddles!

Just take a bigger cooler and more beer/ice on light air days. It'll blow eventually!

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QuoteThese things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls.


Hmmmm . . . looks like something for my Mom's old Electrolux Damon icon_smile

Where do you get them?

Thanks


Anyplace that sells Hobie parts, they call them cat bags and they come in various sizes to match the size of your port.

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I think West Marine has some but I'd say order em online. I am not sure if Sid's is still in business or not they were the only Hobie dealer close.

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Dustin Finlinson • Magna, UT
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I am considering one of these to replace my current cooler

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61KXBulzDVL._SL1500_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Sea…-1&keywords=kayak+cooler

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1982 Prindle 18
1986 Hobie 17
1982 Prindle 16
1980 Prindle 16(mostly)
1976 Prindle 16(mostly)

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klozhaldDoes your Prindle have ports on the decks of the hulls?
Food, drink and storage are yours inside the hulls.

These things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls. icon_lol

http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=74578&g2_serialNumber=5 http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=74581&g2_serialNumber=5


Those will only work with Viking deck ports, Prindle ports do not have the lip that holds the bag...

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QuoteYou gonna go out this weekend? If so where?


Probably Utah Lake Dustin, it is likely the warmest.

We drove all the way around the lake last weekend, and the great looking straight out east/west harbor is private, I suppose you have to live there or know someone who does.

The Provo boat harbor has a small ramp that drops you into the river outlet, looks pretty tempting for a beginner not to have to navigate that pesky harbor icon_smile

Lincoln beach doesn't look too bad, but it is a long drive, even longer for you!

I will post how the maiden voyage goes, I suspect it may raise some more questions.

Thanks



Edited by cellguru on Jun 14, 2013 - 05:11 PM.
What did you think about the Saratoga Springs Marina? Are you planing to sail with just 2 or more? I'm not sure if ill get out this weekend or not. I got some school stuff to take care of.

I plan to get my masts down and clean and sailkote the tracks either way.



Edited by Quarath on Jun 15, 2013 - 12:53 AM.

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The south Saratoga Springs one was OK. It has a really steep ramp plus it was awfully crowded!

My regular crew will consist of my daughter and a couple of 10 year old grandkids.

Not sure if it is going to be today or tomorrow, but we are gonna get her wet this weekend sometime!



Edited by cellguru on Jun 15, 2013 - 07:20 AM.
That shouldn't be too bad. 10 years old are generally easy to move about and good grabbers for those things you cant reach. They might not be strong enough to pull down a popped up rudder which happens.

Don't expect a perfect run you might be working bugs out the first couple times. Don't get too discouraged if it feels like your going nowhere. Tacking takes practice if you not making it be prepared to gybe. It's a shallow lake so remember to tack or gybe before you get so close to shore your rudders are popping up.

I always have issue with smaller kids wanting to hang on to something. They usually pick top hang onto the jib rigging or the trap handles. I had one nephew bust one of my new trap handles from its base because he was scared to death the entire ride.

Kids are also easy to get to sit up at the front of the tramp by the beam. In fact unless it is howling I would plant one in each front corner there and leave them there even as you tack. There weight will probably not make much difference and you and your daughter can move. If it is light enough your daughter will probably be opposite you any way and you can just switch places at tack unless you want to hand off to her to helm the other side, It can be hard for an adult to move in and out of there quickly. Remember to keep a fair amount of crew weight up towards the beam. The P18 has a LOT of hull volume. I weigh lot an usually sit just behind the port

Double check all your rudder connects. My first trip out my rudders came apart at the adjuster . I had turned out farther than I thought. I had to lash it together with a spare bit of rope. I had to re-lash it several times to get to shore.

If you beach it anywhere you might consider tipping it over on the beach an getting a good idea on what it takes to right it. If your up to it you can even tip it over just off shore where you can get to the beach if you need and practice in the water. It's good to practice with the little ones so they are not afraid of tipping over. You would surprised at how quick the little ones can get back on and get the boat into the wind while you drag you old but back on the boat.

I guess I should have asked what your sailing experience was, you may know all this already. Wow this really turned into novel. I might be available tomorrow (Sunday).



Edited by Quarath on Jun 15, 2013 - 12:03 PM.

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1976 Prindle 16(mostly)

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cellguruMy regular crew will consist of my daughter and a couple of 10 year old grandkids.
=paddles.

Have them lay down on the hulls and "swim" the boat with their arms. Kids love doing that.....and all you have to do is relax and steer!

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Maiden voyage went well thanks to Quareth, thanks Dustin!

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Had a blast, the grandkids loved it!



Edited by cellguru on Jun 17, 2013 - 07:01 AM.
DamnoLinkousThese things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls.

The truth is his Prindle has vertical bulkheads that keep anything in a container within reach in the hull from the portholes.
I understand this is not the case with some other cats.
The only limitation is having to get it through the porthole.
Late entry:
An alternative is to drill a hole in the underside of the porthole lid so that you can tie a line to it and use it to keep items in the hull retrievable. The lids usually have a flange that can be used for this, so you don't drill through the lid..



Edited by klozhald on Jun 17, 2013 - 05:27 PM.

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klozhald
DamnoLinkousThese things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls.

The truth is his Prindle has vertical bulkheads that keep anything in a container within reach in the hull from the portholes.
I understand this is not the case with some other cats.
The only limitation is having to get it through the porthole.Edited by klozhald on Jun 17, 2013 - 01:00 PM.


Interesting, did not know that. Amazing what you can learn on TheBeachcats.com! icon_biggrin

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DamnoLinkousThese things set right inside your deck ports and provide good storage, don't just drop stuff into your hulls.

The truth is his Prindle has vertical bulkheads that keep anything in a container within reach in the hull from the portholes.
I understand this is not the case with some other cats.
The only limitation is having to get it through the porthole.
Late entry:
An alternative is to drill a hole in the underside of the porthole lid so that you can tie a line to it and use it to keep items in the hull retrievable. The lids usually have a flange that can be used for this, so you don't drill through the lid..Edited by klozhald on Jun 17, 2013 - 05:27 PM.


Mine doesn't

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QuarathMine doesn't


Nor does mine.
Rider_55Nor does mine.

Wow.
There's a production variance I was not aware of.
Sorry to have mis-spoken.
I raced a 1979 P-16 for 8 years and had to put sandbags in each hull every race to make up for my light crew.
We kept food, water and flares in there too. Karen couldn't quite reach the things that moved aft but I could.
The forward bulkhead was within a foot of the porthull.

There is an amusing story about a border patrol officer shining a light through my hulls during an inspection and demanding to cut them open. The full story will cost you a beer.



Edited by klozhald on Jun 18, 2013 - 06:33 PM.

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