I was looking at the dates for a couple of the races this summer:

Milt Ingram - July 11/12
Tri point - Aug 15

The VSC website's calendar has not yet been updated but if anyone knows the date for the Frenchies Rum run race, please post it here.

It sounds like these races may only have a beach cat class if there is enough early interest. I know last year there was no beach cat class in the Milt Ingram because they didn't have a chase boat, but possibly if we had enough interest that could be a possibility this year.

Are there any other races that have a beach cat class in California?

I would love to be able to do all three this summer. Lets spread the word about these races/dates, and hopefully we can ensure there is a beach cat class!

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Any races that you confirm the dates, please encourage the organizers to add the event to the calendar here. Whoever adds an event can also come back later and edit it, so add the event as soon as the date is known even if all the details aren't ready.

If the organizer isn't interested in adding it here, or can't get around to it feel free to add it yourself and update the event listing.

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Damon Linkous
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Memphis, TN

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I just heard back from the VSC and this year "Frenchies Rum Run Race" will be on June 27th, and they would love to see more beach-cats this year. So any west coast (or nearby) sailors...mark your calendars!

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Cool!!!

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Ron
Big Bear Lake, Ca.
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Dose anyone personally know the organizers of the Milt Ingram Race? I wonder if we had early commitment by a minimum number of crews, if they would be more motivated to ensure a beach cat class this year.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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To answer your question as to whether or not they will guarantee a cat class if there are enough early entrants, yes. But I think the problem is, fleet 42 from Arizona brings out in the neighborhood of 5 to 7 catamaransfor the tripoint race. We set the boats up on Thursday sail Friday, race Saturday, and sail sunday. That makes it worth driving all the way out there and seting the boats up. We would love to hit Frenchy's Rum run and the Milt Ingram, but most of us just can't take that many days off and spend that much time and money to have guy time on the boats in California. So we concentrate on the tripoint and make it a point that all of us make it there at the same time. There are however a couple guys that can't make it for the tripoint and that may end up doing the Milt Ingram instead. All you California boys need to realize how great of an opportunity to do an offshore race you have right in your backyard.it turns out to be a really great safe controlled opportunity to sail offshore on an 18 foot or bigger cat. The Arizona fleet 42 boys will definitely be there for the tripoint you can count on that it's a blast we would not miss it for anything.

I would be interested in thess races and can try to get some more people from San Diego to go.

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David
Nacra 5.5SL
Nacra 5.2 (sold)
San Diego, CA
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genehacker

Dose anyone personally know the organizers of the Milt Ingram Race? I wonder if we had early commitment by a minimum number of crews, if they would be more motivated to ensure a beach cat class this year.

Geno,

Ventura Sailing Club will run a beach cats class for the Frenchy's Rum Run regardless of the number of entrants.... this is a great race out to Anacapa and back Here is their website... http://www.venturasailingclub.org/

As for the Milt... this is the Pierpont Bay Yacht Club same folks that are putting on the Tri-Point.. Contact Susan or Richard about the Milt and what they will need as far as entrants... Their email is rcountess@aol.com

Have fun

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John Schwartz
Ventura, CA
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AZcat....Good to know that the AZ crew will have a strong showing for the tripoint race. If there are members of Fleet 42 that cannot make the Tripoint please let them know of the other races.

DavidSD...yea, spread the word and mark those calendars.

John... Thanks for the contact information for the Susan and Richard. I will reach out to them to try to figure out what sort of commitment we would need to have a beach cat class in the Milt Ingram race.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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The Cali races are always a point of discussion this time of year. Tripoint is always a winner. Some of us would like to hit the border run again. It's been a while, and there have been problems with the race organizers in the past. Still a good race, if the wind shuts down early, it can turn into a long one.
JohnES , are you out this year?

azcat

JohnES , are you out this year?

Maybe.... got a promotion at work that is going to have me traveling to the east cost and Europe a lot over the next year... Summer is a very busy for us business wise... Hope I can make it maybe crew for someone..

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John Schwartz
Ventura, CA
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Here is the reply from Susan Countess at the Pierpont Bay Yacht Club:

"We have had several inquiries about having a beach cat class in Milt's race and we are going to try our best to make it happen. So, yes, you guys are invited."

So it looks good for all three races this summer. Hopefully we can have a good showing in all three events!

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Roll on summer(but not the heat) cannot wait to do these races

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Carl

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onekiwi

Roll on summer(but not the heat) cannot wait to do these races

Will you be racing your Hobie or the NACRA?

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Arizona, USA
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Have not decided yet

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Carl

Dart 18x2
Nacra 5.8
Acat
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onekiwi

Have not decided yet

Bring the one you can sail fastest on a beam to broad reach across the waves.
It's 20 miles back to shore and quite the roller coaster.

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Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
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Arizona, USA
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From the past races, it looks like its also worth considering the handicap ratings of the boats.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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genehacker

From the past races, it looks like its also worth considering the handicap ratings of the boats.

The handicap is about equalizing the boats, making the sailors the variable. How well you know your boat(s) is key. As an example, Bob Martinez has won the Tri-Point four times times in as many years, using two different cats (Prindle and Dart). They are very different boats. It is truly the sailor that makes the difference. Sail the cat that you know best.



Edited by klozhald on Feb 26, 2015 - 10:38 PM.

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Prindle 18-2 #244 "Wakizashi"
Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
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(Way) Past Commodore of Prindle Fleet 14
Arizona, USA
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Bob definitely has his back yard course figured out!!! He kicks a$$ every year!
That being said, conditions on the course also genrally favor higher Portsmouth and non spin boats.
The majority of the course, spinnaker can't be utilized either due to angle or wave shape. Non spin high port. And ability Is the way to win. Still, I'll be on my I20, slogging along at the front of the pack.
Definitely looking forward to the Tripoint!! It's my favorite race all year!!

Anybody interested in the Border Run? It's a 70 mile race from Newport To San Diego. I am signed up and they welcome 18' and larger beach cats. Check out the details on the upcoming events tab.
They have a Nacra 20 FCS registered too.

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David
Nacra 5.5SL
Nacra 5.2 (sold)
San Diego, CA
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When is the border run David

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Carl

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Border Run in the Calendar

http://www.thebeachcats.c…viewtype/details/eid/750

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Damon Linkous
1992 Hobie 18
Memphis, TN

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Thanks Damon,I guess I should swivel my head right sometime!



Edited by onekiwi on Mar 02, 2015 - 05:56 PM.

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Carl

Dart 18x2
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Inaugural year of TBR, AZ Fleet 42 had 3 boats race. Tiger, N5.7, N5.8. I was in the 5.7, and got into San Diego by around 6 or 6:30. I think it was right around 8hrs. Great race!!. The following year I was on a N6.0 and the wind quit at around 4:00pm. We were 2 miles off point Loma when it died. It took us till 11:30am to get from Pt Loma/ Mission Bay Area, to the finish line. Then another Hr to get to the hotel in SD Harbor. The tide was flowing out faster than we were making headway with the breeze at about .5mph. We were sailing foreword at about 1 mph, and the tide was flowing out at about 3mph. Finally got a tow from a H21 with an outboard motor. Long effing day. I would like to do it on my I20. I have other commitments this year. Maybe next year.
Make sure you do your homework before doing TBR! You could have a long cold dark night ahead of you. Or a rescue/ tow boat in your future.

True, sitting on a beachcat for 10-12 hours is not my idea of fun

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Carl

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If anyone needs crew for The Border Run I would be interested. I don't have time in the next few weeks to get a boat ready but would make time to crew.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Looking forward to the hobie races next weekend with onekiwi at Avila Beach/ Port of San Luis. Anyone else heading over for those races?

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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At present there are 12 H18's entered for Hobie Days at Avila.

See you on the start line.

Cheers,

Corkguy

Nice...I am looking forward to it.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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That was a really fun weekend in Avila. It was fun to race in such a awesome setting with a great group of people. I look forward to more races/events this summer!

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Great weekend of sailing in a great location.Lots more races coming up remember to mark your calendar!!

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Carl

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NOR for the upcoming Island Series.... Milt Ingram and Tri-Point are out... Register early and let them know so they can plan...

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John Schwartz
Ventura, CA
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Yeah dear you should encourage the organizers to add the event to the calendar here. I am an event coordinator and arrange such public events quite frequently. Usually I suggest them to add the events to the forum calendars.

One week to the "Frenchies Rum Run Race" out to Anacapa and back, stoked to see other boats out there.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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NWS is forecasting 15kt wind off Anacapa on Saturday.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Just sent off the entry form for the Milt and Tri point, anyone else sent their entry? Get them in so Richard can get the class going.

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Carl

Dart 18x2
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Nice race to Anacapa and back. Big thanks to the VSC for a well run race. With nice wind in the morning they got us off the start line early. Which was a good thing because right after we got in the wind really picked up. I am looking forward to the other two races in the island series this summer.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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What boat did you use, Gene, and how many other cats? Finish results & total time? Pete

We sailed the 1967 B-Lion. It was her shakedown run. She has a few minor issues we need to address but overall she was a really enjoyable boat to sail and seems like a good boat for offshore. She is a bit underpowered compared to newer boats and being 20ft she handles the swells and chop really nicely.

The race went pretty quick I am not sure about the exact times. There was good wind other than a 15 minute lull right at the mark.

There ended up being 3 cats. With the prediction for heavy wind in the afternoon and not having crew, Bob M ended up jumping on a friends trimaran.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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I am starting to get excited about the Milt Ingram race around Anacapa Island. Its still a ways out, but the weather forcast looks good...low 70s and sunny in the afternoon. Too early for wind forcasts.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Here is the latest forecast for just off Anacapa Island for Saturday's race...

W wind 5 to 10 kt, with gusts as high as 15 kt. Patchy fog before 11am. Mixed swell...W 2 ft and SW 3 ft. Wind waves 1 to 2 ft.

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Geno Hacker
Lake Isabella, California
Supercat 20, 1/2 of a B-Lion, H18, P16, H14
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Sounds good...still time to enter you socal folks!

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Carl

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genehacker

Here is the latest forecast for just off Anacapa Island for Saturday's race...

W wind 5 to 10 kt, with gusts as high as 15 kt. Patchy fog before 11am. Mixed swell...W 2 ft and SW 3 ft. Wind waves 1 to 2 ft.

You guys know that I charge for this wind....

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John Schwartz
Ventura, CA
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