How does the wind know to freshen when the the boat goes back on the trailer? I was out for 2 or 3 hours of light winds, then while loading the flags are out straight? Maybe this is a Windfinder forecast rant in disguise?



Edited by ctcataman on Oct 08, 2017 - 09:42 AM.

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John

Nacra 5.0
CT
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Yep, that's how it goes. My problem is that I've been tied up working 2nd shift at Kia and all this week it has been blue skies and breezy, perfect lake weather for sailing and I have to go to work!!! Very frustrating when you've got the boat, got the wind, but don't have the time to enjoy the both of them. So sad that my beautiful H16 sits on the trailer more than its in the water. Oh well, just glad I have my boat and will get out there when I can.

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Marty
1984 Hobie 16 Redline Yellow Nationals, "Yellow Fever"
Opelika, Al / Lake Martin
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Then there is the fresh breeze that lures you miles, and then quits.

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Tom
NACRA 5.7 (1984 Sail 181)
Pennsylvania
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Or the forecast is great for the whole day, but best in the afternoon. So you do other chores in the morning and save all afternoon for sailing, only to find out that the meteroroligists lied and the afternoon isn't even worth rigging up.

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Pat
Hobie Wave
Canadian side of Lake Huron
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or the wind tries to blow you off your tramp while raising the mast then you get it into the water and get the sails up and you scull it around because there isn't enough breeze to feel

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Tim geyer
1980 hobie 16 "last chance"
Fairview heights IL
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Or like yesterday & today. It's Thanksgiving here in Canada this weekend. Between chores & family, the wife says, "pick the best day & reserve it for sailing".
That would be yesterday. Warm, forecast for 30 kts, (gale warnings for Lake Huron), as the edge of hurricane Nate works northward. The perfect day to take the little Girly Cat out for a spin.
Turned into nothing more than 7or 8 kts, took the stinkpot & some refreshments out for a few hours cruise. Only saw a couple of the boats, the entire bay/beach at Chiefs had one other boat hanging on a lunch hook. Towards sunset there were crests just starting on a few waves. Drinks on the dock.
Today we endured brilliant sunshine, & shi**y traffic driving to my brothers at Niagara Falls for Thanksgiving dinner. The pool was almost 90, tapped a new keg of craft beer in the Kegerator, & the damn wind was at 34kts gusting to 38kts most of the day, waves at .9 metres,(3').
At 5pm it suddenly dropped to 2kts, gusting to 4, & that is the forecast for all of tomorrow.
A new keg dulls the injustice, but just barely.

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Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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Weekend sailor know that "the windiest day of the week is Monday."

"Earnings for Meteorologists in the United States come in at around $51K annually on average. Total cash compensation to Meteorologists bottoms out near $31K and approaches $103K" (copied from payscale.com)
Broadcast television meteorologist make an average of $81,360 per year according to work.chron.com

Amazing money for being wrong as often as they are. What other profession do people keep their job for giving out incorrect information on a weekly basis. Too many times I have done chores and errands on one of the weekend days because they tell me the other will be windy; only to find there is only enough wind for steerage way.

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Prindle 18 w/ wings, Prindle 16, Prindle 15, current
Hobie 16 in rebuild
2 Hobie 18 past
NACRA 5.2 past

Saint Cloud, Florida
member Lake Eustis Sail Club
http://www.lakeeustissailingclub.org
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You guys have me all concerned on taking the boat down to Mexico for a couple days later this week.

Or, like last week at PCB FL, the northeast winds were 18-25 all week and the surf was so big I couldn't safely take my family on a leisure ride. It did finally get down enough to go have some fun. I didn't have anyone with me that was willing to go out with it howling and I wasn't about to try those winds since I hadn't sailed in a year.

Good that we went out though, there was some dude out there floating beside his rented paddle board, no vest, no paddle, trying to swim against the wind/current. He was 3/4 mile out and exhausted. Boy was he glad to see us. Picked him and his board up and brought him in. He was worried that the beach service guy was going to give him grief over loosing his paddle. I just shook my head and said "dude... you were on your way to Cancun and you're worried about a paddle"? Nobody had even missed him.

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Tim Young
Hobie 18' + other stuff that floats and goes.
Kentucky
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I haven't had the right conditions to sail my cat in about a month and it was weeks before then (that's not like me)

had crew for 15-25 knots on sunday - got to the beach - no other sailors, few people out - big wind and building waves - had to pass on sailing in big air with no support cats around

rigged early on monday morning (10 knots blowing) go to breakfast and return - no wind for 5 hours, 90* heat and humidity - grrrrrr

Maybe I should bring two boats, hide one under a tarp, take the other out in lame conditions. When Posiden sees that boat get put away, and starts to supply proper wind, abandon the decoy boat, and go sailing. I will test this theory this weekend and report back.

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John

Nacra 5.0
CT
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ctcataman

Maybe I should bring two boats, hide one under a tarp, take the other out in lame conditions. When Posiden sees that boat get put away, and starts to supply proper wind, abandon the decoy boat, and go sailing. I will test this theory this weekend and report back.

it's not nice to fool mother nature

it's not nice to fool mother nature
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Hilarious!

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John

Nacra 5.0
CT
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- no other sailors, few people out - big wind and building waves - had to pass on sailing in big air with no support cats around

Exactly my conditions today, not even any other boats midweek, except...Season is ending here, so I didn't pass.
Figured I'd take the Girly Cat & just stay in Home Bay. Turned into the WORST sailing day of my life. Breaking my ankle on the 6.0XL a few years ago, (but getting all summer off), was better.
The Baby Dart is a stable, quick responding little Cat. However, out on the wire seems much more precarious than my bigger rides. Anyway, I Peter Panned myself, dumped it, & got hung up for a bit causing it to turtle.
No Problemo with this little Cat right? WRONG. Lake is only 19' off the point, & I stuck the stick firmly in the bottom. Of course the damned wind died & wouldn't rotate the boat. No matter what I tried, I could not get it loose.
No joy on the radio. Figuring it might be a long wait for anyone to come by, I decided to swim a half mile to the point & walk home. I get within 200 metres of shore & a lone boat comes close enough to see the Cat & goes over to investigate. I blow Taps on my trusty whistle, they come & pick me up, & are keen to help me out. Decide to join two lines so there is enough room that if the boat flips right over it won't hit his nice SeaDoo jetboat. Long story short, jet drives don't maneuver on a dime, he sucks the tow line into the drive.
Now we are 2 dead in the water.
No one around, so I swim to shore a second time, & walk home. Drag stinkpot off lift & tow him to a pullout ramp near my house. I figure I'll drive him 20 miles to get his truck & trailer, load his boat & leave mine stuck in the mud overnight. He's keen to rescue my Cat, so we motor back, get a line over the hull, & pull the stick out of the mud. Unfortunately what I thought was a water tight mast, is not. despite towing, & me hanging on the towline we can't get it upright. as soon as we stop towing the masthead imitates Jacques Cousteau. I don't want to drag it close to shore as the bottom gets pretty rocky. Eventually we pop a shroud, pull the mast up, remove the sail, (which is very clean now), & get the mast onto the upside down Cat. By this time I've been in the water the better part of 3 hours & fingers are looking pretty pruny. However, we don't have sharks!
Finally we get some luck. A young fellow from the next lake up happens to be on a week off from U, got bored & thought he'd take the jetski down to the big lake & see if anyone from the waterski club is doing there usual Tue night runs. He kindly offers to tow the wreckage to my dock, a slow process. Turns out he's dating the daughter of one of my buddies from flight school, way back when. Small World. Near sunset I get all the extra parts off, mast on lawn, stinkpot put away, hulls tied alongside the N5.0, still upside down, awaiting some muscle tomorrow.
Anyone have any good tips on how to flip it 180*?
Small hatsize, large shirtsize problem?

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Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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Breaking my ankle on the 6.0XL a few years ago, (but getting all summer off), was better.

you know it's bad when "breaking a bone" is better

MN3

had crew for 15-25 knots on sunday - got to the beach - no other sailors, few people out - big wind and building waves - had to pass on sailing in big air with no support cats around

Would have been a perfect day for a Prindle 16 single handed or with crew.

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John Schwartz
Ventura, CA
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Taking a somewhat different tack on the issue, I think all of us have a tendency to remember the times when the weather (wx) forecast is wrong far more than when it is correct. Perhaps my background as F.A.A. wx specialist creates a bias in my perspective. I currently work at a military base outside of Detroit, and you'd be surprised at the level of accountability the forecasters here are subjected to in regard their forecast products (although more so for significant events like thunderstorms, winds above 35 its, etc.). A sign in their office brings some insight as to what they are up against....





Edited by corktown on Oct 15, 2017 - 03:43 PM.

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Erik
'84 Prindle 16
Detroit
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So wind was good yesterday. It did pick up at sunset, similar to the day that inspired the post. Must be a local air temp phenomenom.

It got me to thinking the thread could also be sub titled, The breeze is always fresher on the other side of the lake.
Corollary, The Breeze is always fresher on Mondays, et cetera

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John

Nacra 5.0
CT
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JohnES

MN3

had crew for 15-25 knots on sunday - got to the beach - no other sailors, few people out - big wind and building waves - had to pass on sailing in big air with no support cats around

Would have been a perfect day for a Prindle 16 single handed or with crew.

Everyone has their ideal "perfect"

i am done sailing in 25

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e. I currently work at a military base outside of Detroit, and you'd be surprised at the level of accountability the

yea but can the sphere fly a hull?

Yes, that's what the solar wind can do for you (or a planet)! ....

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Erik
'84 Prindle 16
Detroit
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