I know it's somewhere on the site but I've not been able to find suggestions on how/where to mount a Go-Pro camera.....specifically on a Hobie 16

thanks in advance.....I know that MN3 will know where the post is

This may help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzGJ5tle2AU
My advice is have several monunts and mix them on your videos, otherwise your videos look always the same. On your head is a very good optiopn, don't forget about that one.



Edited by Andinista on Feb 13, 2020 - 10:30 AM.

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My advice is have several monunts and mix them on your videos,

+1

Search on this site for camera mount, and a few variations of that phrase

https://www.thebeachcats.…nc=viewtopic&topic=14037

some good videos but I was hoping for a look at the mounts and where they're attached

I have a 1 meter CF tube I clamp on my spinnaker pole. You can do the same, even longer tubes from plumbing supplies, combined with bicycle mounts. The plumbing tubes can be bent with a heat gun too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8grbU2i7ap4

Here's how I do it. Between the bridles, no pole. For 2020 I plan to play around with other mounting locations including the head cam. My cams don't have the phone control feature (too old) so that you can see remotely what the camera's seeing which would make it fairly easy to aim the head cam. Any one have practice and or a technique for aiming the head cam passively (I'm talking about pre-aiming the bracket angle etc. prior to shooting so the camera is "seeing" what you're looking at).


https://www.thebeachcats.…ictures?g2_itemId=127744



Edited by leeboweffect on Feb 15, 2020 - 07:35 PM.

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https://vimeo.com/232271161
That’s my version of cheap gymbal, inspired on Nacdaddy’s. Just a standard GoPro mount, I filed down the joints to allow free pivoting and used a smaller diameter bolt that I had in hand. My boat has a bow foil so
I just sticked a mount base underneath it. have another one above it, one at the top of the mast and one on a hull, just aft of the main beam. I’ve also tried with tube mounts at the tiller cross arm but it gets in the way of the tiller extension. if I had to choose only one it would be the head mount, second preference is the gymbal.



Edited by Andinista on Feb 16, 2020 - 08:55 AM.

Always use a lanyard

I use a helmet when I sail lost a
few brain cells over the years on the boom
Would you mount the gopro on top of you helmet
or on the side. Which works best?

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Would you mount the gopro on top of you helmet
or on the side. Which works best?

I think you will hit the camera into the boom a lot if you put it on the top

I use Contour Roam for a side helmet mount. Waterproof without a case so get good personal audio. Put tape over the microphone hole and that will eliminate wind noise without ruining the quality.


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Joseph Bennett, JoyriderTV, mounts one on the bill of a ball cap. It keeps the camera lower than a top of the head type mount. BTW, if you haven’t seen his YouTube channel it’s definitely worth watching.

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Nacra 5.7
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Andinista

https://vimeo.com/232271161
That’s my version of cheap gymbal, inspired on Nacdaddy’s. Just a standard GoPro mount, I filed down the joints to allow free pivoting and used a smaller diameter bolt that I had in hand. My boat has a bow foil so
I just sticked a mount base underneath it. have another one above it, one at the top of the mast and one on a hull, just aft of the main beam. I’ve also tried with tube mounts at the tiller cross arm but it gets in the way of the tiller extension. if I had to choose only one it would be the head mount, second preference is the gymbal.

See, you've got the right idea here! A fixed mount on the boat is stupid, because you don't see the boat heel properly. Instead of the hull rising, the boat stays level and the water falls away, and our brains aren't any good at correcting for that. I tried a bunch of different fixed mount locations (the bow, the boom, even the tiller crossbar, which gave me some excellent footage of my main block!) and couldn't stand any of them. I also rejected the head mount, because we're always looking all over the place and the result is unwatchably chaotic.

So I've decided to stick with a gimbal, so the view is true to the horizon and when you fly a hull you actually see the boat come up! I cobbled up a homebrew with a little friction damping so it wouldn't swing around wild+free and mounted it just under the forestay/bridle connection. Worked okay, could have been better. So I shopped around for a single-axis stabilizer (roll only - we don't care about pitch and yaw), but found that the one(s?) that used to be on the market apparently no longer are, except for one that's too expensive for me.

But I left the ebay search in place and snagged one a few months back... which is now stuck at a post office in Montana because my buddy who lives just north of the border can't go down to pick up the mail (his, mine, and others') thanks to the COVID border closure...

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Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEncasCO_RI



Edited by jonathan162 on May 29, 2020 - 03:36 PM.

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Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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On my H17, I of course have wings which makes mounting on the boat easy. I forget the geometry of the H16 tramp supports but you may be able to mount a pole alongside the trampoline (i.e. running vertical alongside the tramp mount). If the bar needs to be deflected, use a piece of PVC and bend it to conform to the necessary deflection using a heat gun (fill pvc with sand so the bend doesn't compress).

Note, the spin pole is a good option and I actually saw a good video where the camera extended off the back of the boom.

James
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But I left the ebay search in place and snagged one a few months back... which is now stuck at a post office in Montana because my buddy who lives just north of the border can't go down to pick up the mail (his, mine, and others') thanks to the COVID border closure...

Please share the results and the gimbal you got. Whenever possible..

It's the Soocoo PS2 - same as buddy's using in that youtube clip, though it seems to appear under other brands, such as Ikan:

https://ikancorp.com/shop…tphone-and-gopro-wenpod/

With any luck the border should be reopening in about three weeks. My major concern is whether it's waterproof enough. You can take a look at it here:

https://www.gearbest.com/…cessories/pp_494809.html

But I tried to order one and they just kept canceling the order without any explanation, so I'm guessing they don't actually stock them (anymore) and just can't be bothered to update their site. Or something. Oh - they're now showing it as "discontinued", though it'd make more sense for them to just remove it.



Edited by jonathan162 on May 29, 2020 - 03:20 PM.

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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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Thanks! There is the "Weewok Sport X1" on Aliexpress, I guess a chinese imitation. I might click buy .. I live in Chile and have used Aliexpress during the pandemia, no issues so far.

Probably not a knockoff - my guess is that there's only one manufacturer of this thing, but it's sold under a bunch of different brands.

The search on there isn't working for me at all - can you post a link?

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Southern Alberta and all over the damn place.
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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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https://m.es.aliexpress.c…uctBottomBar.viewDetails
Sorry I misspelled it
Wewow Sport X1

I think this is the correct English version:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32885704194.html

but it says "sorry, no longer available".



Edited by jonathan162 on May 29, 2020 - 08:19 PM.

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Southern Alberta and all over the damn place.
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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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Yes, same here, didn't check right. I see some with 3-axis not a lot more expensive, I guess people don't look for 1 axis. They don't seem to be waterproof though, some are splash resistant, which doesn't sound enough.

Right. But at $70 USD I'm willing to take a chance and see how it stands up.

Of course, the 3-axis stabilizers are plentiful and not much more expensive, but quite a bit bigger and mainly designed for handheld use rather than being compact and designed for mounting. Still, I'm sure someone will want to try to figure out how to mount one.

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Southern Alberta and all over the damn place.
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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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I just ran across the hard copy I printed out on this thing, so I figured I'd better post it for all-y'all before it submerges again.

https://noirmatter.com/pages/quark

$200 USD

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Southern Alberta and all over the damn place.
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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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Put a 1/4” bolt through the bridle chain plate with a nut to hold it in place. Bolt going from the front of the boat pointed towards the back. Attach GoPro to a tripod mount, thread the mount 2 rotations onto the bolt with the camera hanging below the bolt. The camera can swing side to side, so when you fly a hull the camera stays near level giving you cool perspective of how far you are tipping. A friend John Sloan showed this option to me. Trying to figure out how to adapt this idea on my H18. Hope the description makes sense, also use a lanyard just in case.

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As mentioned above, I did basically the same thing on my Mystere. The differences are that, since I don't have a forestay chainplate on that boat, I clamped the bridle wires (in milled grooves) between two chunks of UHMW plastic along with a ball bearing that the 1/4-20 bolt for the camera goes through so it can rotate freely. But since it was swinging too freely and I was getting seasick watching the video, I epoxied a 1/4-20 nut to a frozen juice can lid and screwed it onto the bolt as well, so that I could clamp a little sheet of soft foam between the lid and the UHMW plastic and dial in the pressure to adjust the damping. Much better result. Follow all that?

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Southern Alberta and all over the damn place.
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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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It's not perfect but better than nothing, at least to be used occasionally depending on the conditions. I guess there will be a lot of difference between different implementations. I took a standard Gopro mount,filed down the joints and put a smaller diameter bolt. It works decently enough if not too choppy. Not compared to a gymbal but better than always aligned to the boat. In my case I put a standard mount under the bow foil. And a lanyard, always :)

https://vimeo.com/manage/232271161/general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zu0WVZTC54&t

Nacdaddy has some good results, different camera not Gopro:
https://www.thebeachcats.…nc=viewtopic&topic=18002



Edited by Andinista on Jun 17, 2020 - 05:06 PM.

Nowadays you can get deeply discounted GoPro Hero5 Black which has all the goodies you need (GPS, top quality image, etc). Not sure exactly how much, but my original Hero5 died, and I called GoPro and I think I got a (refurbished, warranted) unit for ~$100. It's a bit of money, but definitely worth it. The $350 (discounted) / $450 (list) price for latest GoPro Hero8 is hard to justify for a video that is just a little bit better. IMHO :)

In terms of camera mount, I combine the simple "bike handlebar mount" with a CF 1m long tube with a PVC tube attached to the spi pole with hose clamps. Electrical tape protects the spi pole, and also covers the clamps to avoid snags.

The PVC tube is shimmed so that the camera is high enough to see the tiller crossbar. The tiller crossbar has strips of white making tape. With all those things in place, you can see the helm action in detail in the resulting video.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1dX2TxHvfYxTDBSe8

For camera mount, I do one of two; I either mount the camera on the dolphin striker facing forward or I place it on a short "prod" (piece of broken hiking stick) I have extending from the bow foil (similar to N6.0) facing aft. It gives a decent picture range.

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Tornado Classic "Fast Furniture"
Prindle 19 "Mr. Wiggly"
Nacra 5.8 "De ja vu"
Nacra 5.0
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Tornadoes (Reg White)
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Anyone who's interested in one of these single-axis stabilizers, now's your chance! A couple of Wenpod X1 are available on ebay now:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393094193903

They're in Australia and asking about $125 USD. I think this is a little high - when one popped up about a year ago (a SOOCOO PS2 - same thing, different name - new, but open box) I paid about $75 USD. Just depends on how badly you want one, because they aren't common.

Fwiw, I had a chance to try mine last summer on the SC19. It's not a very exciting video, but you should get the idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMKpoymNTY



Edited by jonathan162 on Jan 13, 2021 - 12:51 PM.

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Southern Alberta and all over the damn place.
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1981 SuperCat 20 "Roberts' Rockets"
1983 SuperCat 19
TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"
Mystere 17
Unicorn A-Class (probably made by Trowbridge) that I couldn't resist rescuing at auction.
H18 & Zygal (classic) Tornado - stolen and destroyed - very unpleasant story.
Invitation and Mistral and Sunflower and windsurfers w/ Harken hydrofoils and god knows what else...
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