Hello all, been working away on my P19 for some time, getting it up to speed. I have a lot of questions about the setup and unfortunately can't find a ton of great references online for the specifics, including the manual.

Is there anyone willing to share some photos of various parts of the setup? Specifically, I have some questions about the downhaul rigging and which cleats it employs, the jib furler, centerboard setup - I've seen people use lines that run through the front crossbar cleats and wasn't sure if that's the intended setup.

Will try to get my own reference photos this week so maybe people can give me pointers regarding what's right and wrong with it.

Thanks so much!

spammer1

Hi Imoas ,

I do not use a furler , nor the lines for the centerboards but I will send you pics of the downhaul setup and other rigging . I should be able to send pic’s tomorrow when I go down to the club.

lmoas

Hello all, been working away on my P19 for some time, getting it up to speed. I have a lot of questions about the setup and unfortunately can't find a ton of great references online for the specifics, including the manual.

Is there anyone willing to share some photos of various parts of the setup? Specifically, I have some questions about the downhaul rigging and which cleats it employs, the jib furler, centerboard setup - I've seen people use lines that run through the front crossbar cleats and wasn't sure if that's the intended setup.

Will try to get my own reference photos this week so maybe people can give me pointers regarding what's right and wrong with it.

Ping me if you need to... I've owned a 19 for 20-ish years and did a number of modifications.
- downhaul: This is a free for all. There are so many variations that you'll have to just figure it out. For the cleats, there should be a pivoting sheave with a cam cleat that will pivot about 160 degrees. For the purchase, you'll have to keep running through blocks until you run out of blocks. Most will run an 8:1.

- I did race with a furler - loved it.. I also added a bow foil like the N6.0 and N5.5.

- Boards: I have mine where they are bungee loaded down and a line pulls them forward. If I hit something, the board comes up and can be pulled back down automatically by the bungee cord. It does add lines and complications. If you like to fiddle and experiment, build something but keeping it simple is king.

This is one of the great things of these boats... if you want to do something on them, do it. Unless you want to race it in strict one-design class - you can do anything you want to. Even racing, we would have 5 19's racing and every one of them were set up differently - even different sail plans. With the age, I'm sure things have been changed and modified so it's hard to determine what was original.

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Scott

Prindle Fleet 2
TCDYC

Prindle 18-2 Mod "FrankenKitty"
Tornado Classic "Fast Furniture"
Prindle 19 "Mr. Wiggly"
Nacra 5.8 "De ja vu"
Nacra 5.0
Nacra 5.8
Tornadoes (Reg White)
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Welcome!
Here is a link (below) to my site here at thebeachcats. Inside is the manual for the Prindle 19 and the 18-2.
There are other items in the site that pertain to your 19 as well. Feel free to look around. You can download and print specific pages of the manual if you like.
The downhaul on some of the earlier 19s were one or two sided, having cleats on both sides of the mast with small spring loaded blocks to direct the line toward the crew. Pictures are in the manual. Also, look for the Prindle Class Rules section for tips on modifying and maintenance of the 19.
https://www.thebeachcats.…ictures?g2_itemId=123714



Edited by klozhald on Sep 04, 2024 - 03:35 PM.

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texastuma

lmoas

Hello all, been working away on my P19 for some time, getting it up to speed. I have a lot of questions about the setup and unfortunately can't find a ton of great references online for the specifics, including the manual.

Is there anyone willing to share some photos of various parts of the setup? Specifically, I have some questions about the downhaul rigging and which cleats it employs, the jib furler, centerboard setup - I've seen people use lines that run through the front crossbar cleats and wasn't sure if that's the intended setup.

Will try to get my own reference photos this week so maybe people can give me pointers regarding what's right and wrong with it.

Ping me if you need to... I've owned a 19 for 20-ish years and did a number of modifications.
- downhaul: This is a free for all. There are so many variations that you'll have to just figure it out. For the cleats, there should be a pivoting sheave with a cam cleat that will pivot about 160 degrees. For the purchase, you'll have to keep running through blocks until you run out of blocks. Most will run an 8:1.

- I did race with a furler - loved it.. I also added a bow foil like the N6.0 and N5.5.

- Boards: I have mine where they are bungee loaded down and a line pulls them forward. If I hit something, the board comes up and can be pulled back down automatically by the bungee cord. It does add lines and complications. If you like to fiddle and experiment, build something but keeping it simple is king.

This is one of the great things of these boats... if you want to do something on them, do it. Unless you want to race it in strict one-design class - you can do anything you want to. Even racing, we would have 5 19's racing and every one of them were set up differently - even different sail plans. With the age, I'm sure things have been changed and modified so it's hard to determine what was original.

awesome, thanks so much. getting to tackling these things piece by piece. if you could share a photo of the bungee setup that'd be super helpful...have a lot of issues with boards riding up at high speeds.

other question - what exactly makes the prindle rudder castings "sided?" they seem symmetric to me, but was wondering what the difference is

lmoas

texastuma

lmoas

Hello all, been working away on my P19 for some time, getting it up to speed. I have a lot of questions about the setup and unfortunately can't find a ton of great references online for the specifics, including the manual.

Is there anyone willing to share some photos of various parts of the setup? Specifically, I have some questions about the downhaul rigging and which cleats it employs, the jib furler, centerboard setup - I've seen people use lines that run through the front crossbar cleats and wasn't sure if that's the intended setup.

Will try to get my own reference photos this week so maybe people can give me pointers regarding what's right and wrong with it.

Ping me if you need to... I've owned a 19 for 20-ish years and did a number of modifications.
- downhaul: This is a free for all. There are so many variations that you'll have to just figure it out. For the cleats, there should be a pivoting sheave with a cam cleat that will pivot about 160 degrees. For the purchase, you'll have to keep running through blocks until you run out of blocks. Most will run an 8:1.

- I did race with a furler - loved it.. I also added a bow foil like the N6.0 and N5.5.

- Boards: I have mine where they are bungee loaded down and a line pulls them forward. If I hit something, the board comes up and can be pulled back down automatically by the bungee cord. It does add lines and complications. If you like to fiddle and experiment, build something but keeping it simple is king.

This is one of the great things of these boats... if you want to do something on them, do it. Unless you want to race it in strict one-design class - you can do anything you want to. Even racing, we would have 5 19's racing and every one of them were set up differently - even different sail plans. With the age, I'm sure things have been changed and modified so it's hard to determine what was original.

awesome, thanks so much. getting to tackling these things piece by piece. if you could share a photo of the bungee setup that'd be super helpful...have a lot of issues with boards riding up at high speeds.

other question - what exactly makes the prindle rudder castings "sided?" they seem symmetric to me, but was wondering what the difference is

I know what you are saying about the boards riding up at speed. With the shock cord, they will start to "kick up" above 20 knots.

Castings: If you either lay the casting with tiller arm flat on the ground, you'll see that the arm either touches the ground or lifts in the air or look at the casting from the stern of the boat. Place a flat edge along the inside edge of the casting where the tiller slides in, you'll see the arm at an angle compared to the casting. I think it comes in about an inch. I bent my tillers and extra inch and half for the ackerman steering.

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Scott

Prindle Fleet 2
TCDYC

Prindle 18-2 Mod "FrankenKitty"
Tornado Classic "Fast Furniture"
Prindle 19 "Mr. Wiggly"
Nacra 5.8 "De ja vu"
Nacra 5.0
Nacra 5.8
Tornadoes (Reg White)
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The castings on the modern ones have a stamped p and s in them on the tiller socket. As to boards, mine have a 3/8 bungee run to the back of the tramp, then under the tramp to the dolphin striker. This provides a positive downhaul on them, then use a topping lift line on the beam to raise them. My boards lift a few inches at above 20 knots as well, but it doesn't make much difference. Post some pictures and we will be glad to help you out with the boat.

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Captain Chris Holley
Fulshear, TX
'87 Prindle 19 "¡Hijole!"
'74 sunfish "1fish"
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