[quote=tangledsail]Glen, Just saw your post. I have had many of the boats you are discussing. I owned the 580, N17 sloop, and now the 570. Years ago, it all started with a H17, then a H18sx.
So, the 580 is a beautiful sailing boat with the convenience of centerboards. It is powerful, fast and rides like a lincoln town car. Slices through the waves. The 17sloop, well, I bought it to sail with two. Don't do it. Handles like crap with wind and waves! Calm and flat seas, maybe. Of coarse with one - it is fantastic! The 570, which has cosmetic and functional updates of the 5.7. Also a fantastic sailing boat. Lots of power, Very bouant and forgiving. Gives up a little power to the 580, but, you can sail it solo if need be. Easier on the beach (360 vs. 420lbs) and slightly shorter mast. No boards or boom to worry about. Wont point as high as an F18 - I don't care though. Both can handle tons of weight. If you want a hot rod recreational boat, the 570 is it. Compared to the H18, the 570 is a more modern design, and also handles more weight - tall skeg hulls. MG[/quote]
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