What is the best method to hold up the Pintle pins of a P16, yet have a quick release method? What about a spring clip like used on a trailer hitch pin?
Harry
Holding up Pintle Pins - Whats better than a cotter pin? P16
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 09:51 PM
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 08:25 AM
I tried using this kind of pin first because i thought that it would be quicker when taking the rudder on and off but one day about a mile out the pin came out and one off the rudders came off. I learned that i should always carry extra parts.
After that happened i switch to this style pin with no troubles.
If i am just going out for the day i use steel ones. If i plan on leaving the boat set up for a couple of days i use the stainless steel ones.
Hope this helps.
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 09:17 AM
i am not sure of exactly where on the pintle (on a prindle) they go, but ring dings are much safer than an open pin shown above -
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 10:01 AM
I think that he is talking about the rudder pins. -
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 10:04 AM
yes, i think you are correct, rudder pins....
if you plan to remove your rudders for transit... i use ringdings.
if you dont plan to take them off, a cotter pin is the way to go.
PS this pic is a pintle... i think there is a slight difference between it and a rudder pin (as pintels are hardmounted, and usually (not always) have a spring stop built in the rudder casting that secures it)
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 10:09 AM
ringding?
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 12:10 PM
Yes, same thing as a key ring but smaller. -
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 12:27 PM
oh wait... not that kind...
this kind
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 01:12 PM
I think that it would be very hard to get those in such a tight area. If they do work it would be much faster than the cotter pin.
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 04:00 PM
Yes now that you say that, i recall only using cotter pins on my H18... but i never took the blades off (unless for repairs)
I use them every week to put my rudder pins on my Mystere... although its just on the bottom of the casting. The top of the pin bends over to keep it from dropping out -
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 06:33 PM
The P16 has a 10" long 3/8 " OD aluminum pin with a small hole drilled accross it at each end. I used a stainless cotter pin thru the top hole to keep the pin from dropping. I bought a couple stainless open pins but they were clearly too soft and ran the risk of not holding. I bought a couple more in regular steel as they have much more spring. I will try these next. Since I'm trailering I want as many quick methods to rig, however dropping a rudder in the lake is not worth the risk. Thanks for the info! Harry -
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Posted: Jul 08, 2009 - 05:16 PM
I use these as well but I push them all the way through to the big circle part not just till the little hump in the middle. Unless I am just putting the pins in without the rudders then the middle is fine.
edited by: Quarath, Jul 08, 2009 - 03:17 PM
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