Hobie 21 SE...anyone familiar?
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Posted: Sep 14, 2009 - 03:26 PM
i bet the better skipper would win regardless of which boat (mentioned here)
i say this because i tiger is a more modern design and more modern sailplan. i think that would negate any advantage the 21 has in sail size and water line...
I could be wrong.. heck i even thought i was once... but i wasn't
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Posted: Sep 14, 2009 - 03:33 PM
I guess I will agree with Andrew this time
Especially if you overtook them "quite quickly" odds are they were not sailing full out. The boats are probably close enough in performance that something else must be accounting for the rapid overtaking. Either you are a much better skipper and/or they were getting ready to launch the chute and not really going full out.
I know I followed a H17 for several miles earlier this summer on a single tack with only marginally closing the gap. I presume he was the better skipper, but definitely didn't see a major overtaking or escape by either boat.
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Posted: Sep 14, 2009 - 03:43 PM
Flightlead forgot to mention the 250 HP merc engine
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Posted: Sep 14, 2009 - 05:33 PM
with my spin i can crawl of fly... with very little difference in helming. its all about how much work i want to do with my spin.
when i want to stay with my "pack" i go deep and sheet tight
when i want to beat them i point a little more upwind and sheet out... but this means my spin sheet goes from 10lbs of pressure to 30 (in mild air). -
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Posted: Sep 14, 2009 - 07:08 PM
I was amazed by how much extra speed he got with the spin. They basically doubled their sail area in about 5 seconds(like an NOX boost; it could have been the 250 Merc).
He did have all the sheets pulled tight as we were gaining on them. The wind was only about 10 - 15 mph. After they tacked we pulled ahead again. They put the spinnaker out again and I waited for them. They had to head off wind again and blew by us. So when I headed back towards the beach their spinnaker began to stall. They pulled it in and we both arrived back about the same time....They had recently acquired the Tiger.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2010 - 05:38 PM
Eric,
We're all waiting to see this thing at Trixie's! Hope it hasn't turned into a disaster.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2010 - 05:51 PM
Hey man.....see you tomorrow morning. We have been caught up with all kinds of personal stuff....didn't do much work on the boat.
I was planning on reinforcing the wing sockets, didn't get around to it, so I think we are going to sail without the wings and spinnaker for whats left this season.
Hope my spots clear on the dock!!!!
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Posted: Jul 26, 2010 - 02:41 PM
Too bad: we didn't make it down this weekend, due to a couple of other commitments (first time since June). If Bob moves the SuperCat, there should be room. -
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Posted: Jul 26, 2010 - 03:10 PM
This is about all you missed on Sunday.....
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Posted: Jul 26, 2010 - 06:08 PM
I have been around marina's on the Gulf of Mexico all my life and never seen a set up like that. Where is it?
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Posted: Jul 26, 2010 - 07:41 PM
Trixie's landing in Bayville, NJ
http://www.trixieslanding.com/
it is a phenomenal setup. The water out to where the powerboat on the right side is is only 6" to 2ft depending on tide...further out straight back where the opening is at most at high high tide is chest deep (I am 5'9")...so you can walk your boat in and out no problem. The prevailing SW wind means that basically you sail straight in through the powerboats as seen in picture and come up wind (turn right) and stop your boat within a few feet of your slip.
They have onsite sail and equipment storage, so all you need is to bring the sandwiches and cold drinks. Actually they sell that too.....
NJ gets a bad rep in just about every aspect (mainly north jersey, might as well be a different state). Barnaget Bay has consistently good winds 10-15 SW nearly every day. Most parts of the bay are no more than 8ft. The bay is approx 30 miles long and 1-3 miles wide. The barrier islands have many protected wildlife areas which are great to beach the boat on for some solitude. Excellent crabbing, clamming and fishing. The last 2 years sailed until Halloween without a wet suit, the water is warm....
edited by: mma600psi, Jul 26, 2010 - 07:42 PM
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