Is there any reason on a beach cat to paint the blades other than it just looks cool?
brightly colored blades?
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Posted: Dec 03, 2009 - 10:32 PM
I've noticed some high performance boats these days are painting their daggerboards and rudders bright colors
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Posted: Dec 03, 2009 - 10:38 PM
my last boat had black gelcoat daggers and rudders, and my current boat has yellow gelcoat foils, and they do look cool.
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 09:26 AM
I think in the picture you provided, the baby poo green color against the black provides nice contrast, so you can better see that the black hull is flying from a distance. Otherwise all the black would be washed out against the other blackness.
No matter how hard you try, that particular green will never make anything cooler, but that boat has coolness to spare. -
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 09:44 AM
i would NEVER sail a x-40 with pastel rudders! haha.. yea right.. i would give a toe or pinky to get on one of them cats!... -
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 10:59 AM
such nice boats. I'm repainting my boat this year with black hulls and orange/green rudders/dagger boats. Figured I didn't want shiny white hulls cos Im' bored of those...but I needed something moderately visible if I flip...hence the green and orange. Plus it just looks cool. -
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 11:33 AM
Black hulls may be harder to see in the water than white.. so if saftey is a concern..... -
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 02:33 PM
I would think that black hulls, although really nice, would start to look ratty after a while. The underlying color would show through with every scratch or ding.
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 03:46 PM
They do look pretty cool though. I personally like this boat:
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Posted: Dec 04, 2009 - 09:17 PM
My main concern is how much black hulls would heat up at 12 noon under a tropical sun. We could probably make fried eggs. At least let the deck white.
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Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 02:57 AM
Catdan....I didn't say it was a good idea...just looks nice.
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Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 08:11 AM
I am currently "working over" the H21SE I bought this fall. I was thinking of painting the centerboards red to match the spin pole....so it would be black tramp and wings with white sails and hulls. I figure all of these boats are starting to look the same, might as well stand out a bit.
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Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 06:18 PM
How are you going about painting your hulls? I'd like to paint mine black or dark gray, but the concerns the rest of the folks have brought up are valid. What's the best way to get a good looking paint job that is still tough enough for a beach cat?
I can see where the hi-vis yellow foils would help the black boat with being seen against the dark water. What about the VOR boats?
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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 02:32 PM
Catdan:
I'm a beginner, but it looks like physics worked to turtle them. With the exception of the one guy who did the superman leap into the sail, the other four remained on the hull. As soon as the mast went even a smidgeon into the water, the upper hull was over center & the weight of the 4 crew on the upper hull pulled it down. As it went further over this weight became more and more effective at assisting the capsize. Four men equals quite a bit of mass, if the sail/mast were free to rotate it would very quickly align to the point of least resistance, then the crew provides the leverage.
As stated, I'm new, this is only my theory.
Can all 4 of them right it again?
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 12:23 AM
Without knowing more, from a turtle I believe it's an impossibility, but even from a capsize with the mast floating I doubt they could.
It was not my intention to hijack the post, so back on topic; those boats are carefully lowered into the water using cranes, and new paint jobs applied frequently, as opposed to most of us dragging the cats over pebbles and sand, banging the hulls onto trailers, and doing paint jobs only after years of use, so you can't really compare them.
I'd love to hear from folks who did choose another color than white for their hulls. Do you frequently do some retouching, or being overly careful? Or is there a paint system that is highly scratch-resistant?
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 09:21 AM
I had a white h16 that was painted blue (over the orig white hulls). every scratch was highlighted with a white outline! sucked!
then i had a light blue h18 (factory i think).. a little better but it was very faded.
There are 2 main methods (that i know of) to color your boat.
1 is a 2 part paint (Imron or similar) and require full oxygen respirators and paint booths as they are extremely toxic. There are new paints too that are extremely good and stay bright white for years with little more than a cleaning. The second method is to use colored gelcoat. Gelcoat and most of us know about gelcoat to a degree.. it will fade and become chalky with exposure.. but can last for many years with cleaning and careful not to scratch it.
Either can be used on cats.. and either can be colored.. There are people who go to great lengths to keep their cats scratch free.. they make Styrofoam hull cradles so the hulls NEVER touch sand, they use beach wheels and are very diligent ... however. i have NEVER seen black hulls that weren't scratched and faded. -
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 09:23 AM
I think the mast MUST have leaked.. there is so much volume in that mast.... HOWEVER.. since i dont know much about x-40s.. it is possible they DONT even seal them as there is no way they can right that boat without a engine HP.
They did say there was strong gusts and having 4 or 5 guys on the top hull doesnt help.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 02:52 PM
My H21 hulls were painted by friends at the airport that build composite aircraft for those who don't want to build the planes themself. I did most of the prep work myself. It was painted with white imron, with the intentions of putting on some graphics from one of those car/boat wrap places. I haven't gotten around to doing the graphics yet. But the imron paint is easy to touch up if it gets scratched and still looks new 4 years later. As for colored centerboards and rudders.....Let us know how yours turn out. Maybe paint the cross beams and mast as well. I've seen posts on one of these sites where they use Ceram-kote, which is practically scratch resistant...maybe look into it if you are going to paint the hulls,rudders, and centerboards.
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 03:16 PM
What type of prep was needed?
were the hulls stock gelcoat?
How much time did it take (prep)
PS if you still want graphics... i HIGHLY recommend http://www.wildergfx.com . The guy does gfx for many races and is a coastie.. i like supporting the guys who risk their lives to save us sailors :) -
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Posted: Dec 10, 2009 - 03:57 PM
It looked like the hulls were painted before. I don't know if it was factory paint, but had the original stripes(purple and blue). I used a heat gun and scraper to take the vinyl laser striping off(be careful doing this) then used a DeWalt DA sander to take it down to the gelcoat, which was kind of a cream/beige color. The airport guys did the final prep, prime, and paint. Maybe those graphics guys can give some ideas on what I can do for the boat.
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