If you had that many lines break it would be worth it to just replace all the rigging! You don't want to risk the mast coming down while you are sailing. Murrays and Salty Dog Marine both sell properly sized rigging and trap lines at reasonable prices. You should replace the rigging every 5 or so years anyway depending on how and where you sail.
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Posted: Sep 14, 2010 - 09:27 PM
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Posted: Sep 14, 2010 - 09:37 PM
After looking at the photo of the boat on the trailer, what is the bottle looking thing on the dolphin striker bar? There is also a line tied to the bar that looks like it goes to the trailer, you will bend the dolphin striker rod if you use that line to load the boat. I loop my trailer winch line over the ball. This will place all the load right next to the cross beam. -
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Posted: Sep 14, 2010 - 10:09 PM
I have a 1983 5.0 as well. It came without a captive ball mast base as well. I understand they changed to the captive ball system late in 1983 or 84. After raising the mast a couple of times, one of the first things I ordered was a replacement base from Murrays. This makes raising the mast much easier and safer in my opinion. The kit was around $160.
Here is setup at the top of my mast. The main halyard should include a small ball that hooks to the small plate 6-8 inches from the top of the mast.
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Posted: Sep 15, 2010 - 08:48 PM
Thanks for all the help guys. You guys are fantastic. I'm down at home, suffering from a cold from sailing.
Edchris:
Yeah my mast does have the same type of main sail holding as in figure 18. If you guys hadn't told me about it before I tried to raise the main for the first time I would of been scratching my head for a while. But I must say, it works pretty well. That little ball is fairly easy to get under the fork, on/off. I even have to do it in the water (since I am off a boat launch) and it works fine. Much easier than the ring in figure 19, that I had on my hobbie 18. That thing would not come off half the time.
I'm not sure what the little bottle is on the dolphin striker. I would guess it's some place dry to keep the registration papers someone added. The lake we sail on (Cass Lake, in SE Detroit), let's just say the DNR used to be very "aggressive" and almost harassing, so having the registration onboard is a must.
The trapeze wires are backward on the starboard side, because even though I was on the rear of the boat, I was using the front trapeze, because the other 3 ropes on the wires are in bad shape, and that one had been recently replaced.
Good tip, on using a the trapeze harness to adjust the mast shroud tension. I will do this before the next time out. And the wires themselves look like they were recently replaced. I inspected them, no signs of wear or fraying.
Thanks again for all the help. Everyone he definitely was very helpful in helping me clear up all the questions I had.
And yes, I usually wear a PFD as well. In calm wind I don't, because, to me I guess it's worth the risk. I did take it off there, because the harness did not fit with the jacket on. But, as you can see, my gf, she's a lot more important than me, so I make her wear hers always. :) -
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Posted: Sep 16, 2010 - 06:28 PM
By having your friend hike out you can get good tension on the rig. If I am leaving my boat for more than a day, I hike out & back off one shroud a hole or two to take the stress out when I'm not using it. Leave the plastic shroud cover up on top of the adjuster, that way it is very obvious next time out that the shroud needs to be tightened.
WEAR YOUR PFD ALL THE TIME. I never take mine off, even in 90+ weather until I'm nearly at my dock & the water is only waist deep. Some kids are fatherless today because some poor chap took his of a few days ago.
Don't mean to lecture, but your way to young, with way to much to live for to lose it for that simple(dumb) a reason. When that cat goes over, & it will, it can be pretty chaotic, with people banging off shrouds, mast etc. It can be way to easy to run your skull into something hard, think mast or shroud anchor & end up dazed in the drink, as your boat drifts away faster than anyone can swim.
Our Gov't in Canada makes it very simple, IF you want to use a sailboard,Cat etc & NOT wear your PFD, the you have to have every single bit of safety equipment that an 18' power boat requires. If you WEAR the PFD, you only need a whistle with you. Of course one can always just pony up the fines, but I prefer to divert those funds to more toys & better beer!
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Posted: Sep 16, 2010 - 06:45 PM
Hot topic right now especially since that poor fellow died!
Here ya go http://www.apsltd.com/gal…popup.aspx?GalleryID=331
light stylish, fits with a harness AND you can pretend you are batman without the nipples.
Seriously, if you don't normally wear a PFD those bouyancy aids are awesomely comfortable. The one with the muscles aside.
edited by: Wolfman, Sep 16, 2010 - 05:45 PM
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1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
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Posted: Sep 16, 2010 - 11:49 PM
just curious... is it Indianapolis cross country?
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Posted: Sep 24, 2010 - 01:34 PM
Hey guys, been out sailing pretty much everyday.
Adjusted the shroud wires to the max tensions I could get on them, and that made me feel a lot better about the mast coming off. Haven't capsized yet, but hopefully this will keep it on the ball. Over the winter I will change it over to the captive system.
I've been out about 5-8 times now, and I love this boat. It's obvious now some of the changes I need to make over the winter. Like put in an anti mast rotation system as this is killing my speed, replace all the steel cabling, etc.
I even solo'd it the other day ago in a 15 mph wind, and it was great. Made me learn a lot, and I feel completely comfortable soloing it. I like how even if the hull burries a lot, it doesn't flip immediatly like a hobie 18 or any bananna hull boat will.
One question I do have, is on my jib there are small clips that attach to the forestay. Basically plastic white, about 8 of them that you turn sideways and clip onto the forestay. Some of them are broken, and I can't seem to find replacement for them. Anyone know where they are?
And Indyxc- It's a long story, but when I was a kid (about 10 years ago), I got a brand new front fork for one of my mountain bikes called the RockShox "IndyXC", and it just so happened I used that name back then, and it's stuck since.
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Posted: Sep 24, 2010 - 02:28 PM
Found the part. For reference they are called jib hanks!
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=56720&BASE -
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Posted: Sep 24, 2010 - 02:47 PM
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I?m not sure what you mean by an anti mast rotation system on a Nacra 5.0. Boomless boats use a positive rotator not a limiter like boom boats.
When sheeting a boom boat, like your Hobie 18, the boom forces the mast to rotate and you use the limiter, attached to the mast facing aft and connected to the boom to prevent rotation.
On a boomless boat, like most of the Nacras, the positive rotator faces forward and is used to induce rotation. If you want less rotation, move your outhaul or clew plate adjustment, forward and sheet tighter. The rotator is used mainly downwind to make the mast entry into the wind less sharp. It can also be used in choppy conditions in light air to stop the mast from going back and forth, ie. boat wakes. In high wind conditions, it can also be used to depower by inducing rotation and flattening the sail along with downhaul and sheet tension. Be careful with using the rotator, if it is on and you jibe, the mast will not rotate, battens can poke through the sail, and the boat will not power up until the rotation is released. Also, it?s adjusted from the windward side not the leeward side of the boat.
I wouldn?t worry about adding it unless I was racing. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2010 - 05:05 PM
Ron, you are spot on, and I figured out a lot of what you are saying, yesterday on the lake!
Unforutantely, I went out yesterday in 30 mph winds gusting to 45 mph, and I that was just too much. Only stayed out for a bit, but long enough to do damage.
Went out without the jib, as the wind was massive and gusty. Even with the main out, and traveler out, and no jib it was still hard to slow down the boat. Once I got out there, and made it across the lake, it took forever to get home, because I was afraid to go down wind, because I though the boat would pitchpole over.
So I tried to make it back tacking back and forth downwind, which without the jib was very difficult! At one point I thought it would be a good attempt to jib! Wrong! Of course like you said, this caused the sail to fly forward and rap around the diamond wires, and almost flip forward. A quick move by my crew member to pull it down saved us from flipping. But the damage was done. One of the battens tore through the front of the sale. It seems the rip is along the sown part on the batten material.
I'll call the sail shop monday, but what does a typical sail repair cost. One sow maybe 10 inces along the batten?
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Posted: Feb 11, 2011 - 07:06 AM
Hello,
I'm French and do not control your langage as it should. With the help of google it should go ...
I am the owner of a Nacra 5.0 and I had to make several repairs since I bought it used.
I find lot of informations is this web site. It seemed important that I am also involved in showing the evolution of my work.
Thus, I created a blog, with texts and photos, : http://nacra.akwakwak.over-blog.com/
I offer tips and tricks I've used
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Posted: Jan 03, 2016 - 09:07 AM
Help please. I just got my Nacra 5.0 out of the shed for the first time in 6 years. I'm surprised it's all in pretty good order. But I can't remember how to attach the clew of the jib and can't remember how to thread the mainsail down haul. Could anyone post pictures of their setup either here or direct to my email. Thanks. Richard Watt in Hervey Bay, Australia.
