why don't people wear their PFD's? and what can be done about it.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 12:37 AM
I have all the colors for the Stohlquist. Lately I'm on a red kick :) -
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 01:00 AM
While I'm also very comfortable in the water, the possibility of being knocked by the boom or other boat parts on the way into the water means I don't let anyone on my boat without a PDF.
I also vote for the Stohlquist. I have 8 in various sizes, colors and genders to cover whomever I'm sailing with. -
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 02:37 AM
Why don't people wear their PFD's?
I guess they never hit their masts or hulls with their ribs in capsize. PFD saves both, the ribs and the mast. Prooved :) -
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 04:20 AM
in a canoe or kayak or rowboat i am occasionally tempted to not wear a pdf
but on things that can harness the unpredictable winds, are covered in tangly ropes and stuff and can do 10-20knots by themselves
i always wear a pdf
like the safety belt i just don't feel comfortable without 1 now -
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 10:11 AM
actually.... (hehe) a whistle is also required equipment as per coast guard regs (or other audable device).
"Every vessel less that 39.4 feet (12 meters) long must carry an efficient sound-producing device."
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 10:21 AM
You can buy whistle's from here,
http://www.firstaidstore.…b-4d0e-84fa-6132f8cafcca
I alway's carry one in my PFD pocket.
Even though i've never used it, it's ALWAYS a good thing to carry.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 10:54 AM
I can't afford that ($0.26) :) just kidding but it may be worth getting a marine whisle. If that whistle has a cork pea in it.. it can get brittle and not work with exposure.
Marine whistles are still only a few dollars.
i have only had to blow a whistle a few times (when i was at the sceen of 2 jetskis that collided, i blew my whistle to hail help from a powerboat). -
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 12:12 PM
I see everyone discussing the Stohlquist PFD's. I have found good success with the Extrasport brand. My wife and sister-in-law both like the "Chica" which is designed for a women, but also comfortable for men. Looks like they don't make my PFD anymore, but just another vendor to look at.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 03:34 PM
I always wear one when racing or saling solo. On days when there are a few people in the boat and it is a drifter, we sometimes don't. That's pretty rare.
I'm one of the ones who almost drowned WITH MY PFD ON!! we pitchpoled a Hobie 16 and I was at the front beam when it started to turtle. The jib cleat on the beam cought the back of my jacket and pulled me under. I remember taking that last breath and just panicing! Luckily, the guy I was sailing with (who was on the bottom of the tramp by then) realized what was hapening and pushed me under to release my jacket, then he pulled me up. I had taken in some water, but about coughed up a lung out when I got back on the bottom of the tramp. He had to drag me on the boat. I had no energy for a minute or two. The experience really spooked me.
I think the comfort thing is the factor. I use the kayak PFDs like Damon showed and really like them. Lots of movement, not too big.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 05:07 PM
I'm sure no one appreciates the guy you were sailing with more than you do, but it really should be stressed how impressive that is. I've sailed with plenty of people who would have just stared and said, "I wonder why he's staying down there so long.." and left it at that. Glad you were OK.
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I usually remember to bring up the fact that I could fall off at the end of my 'new crew speach' if at all. By then I'm ready to go so it goes something like:
"If I fall off you need to figure out very quickly if you can drive the boat or not. If so, come get me. If not capsize it and jump off. If you can't figure out how to do that, pray. Let's go."
I wear waterskiing/wakeboarding neoprene jackets. They probably don't allow as much movement as the pfd's shown above, but I've never felt restricted. They also are very good for absorbing some impact, and the neoprene fits like a glove.
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Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 06:44 PM
Take a look at the Stohlquist Betsea. Excellent PFD designed for the female form...
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 01:04 AM
2 reasons
COmfort and manuverability. Besides I grew up on the ocean and cant stand swimming in one. I swear they are even more uncomfortalbe in the water than out. I also like to be able to go under water especially when righting the boat. I tend to hold on to the hull as it comes down and am fine with it pushing me under. I always know where it is.
As stated above, if you get knocked out, almost none of us have the jacket that will roll you over. so in that instance it would not do you any good any way
and YES I know I am going to catch hell for this!
I do keep good ones on board at all times and recommend them to guests. -
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 11:40 AM
The correct pfd takes care of the first two...And that last part - I COMPLETELY disagree with. There is so much science and testing and certifications that goes into PFD's it's crazy. I dont understand how their not MORE expensive:) -
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:26 PM
It is my understanding ONLY a type 1 Offshore Life Jacket will roll over an unconscience person so they are floating face up. NONE of the other class pfd are designed to do that (required much more boyancy in front vs behind the torso and also requires around the neck floatation -
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 12:44 PM
Like jacket info.
http://www.boatsafe.com/n…calknowhow/pfdbasics.htm -
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 01:44 PM
funny story:
so i am camping all weekend (this past weekend). It's about an 1/2 hour to sunset, and we have a powerboat pullup. Ends up, its a guy who used to sail very often in our area.. .and a few of the sailors know him. His gf has never been on a cat so i suggest she go out for a spin on one. she is excited to go.
I ask her bf if he wants to go out on my cat. He jumps at the chance. I ask him to please grab himself a pdf from his powerboat just so we are legal. He flips out and says "hell no, if you require me to have one, you are an incompotant skipper and i wont sail with you".
I bite my tounge and say nothing (a new skill i am learning). i figure he can stay on the island, no sweat off my brow. I am going for my 3rd sunset sail in a row, with or without him. He finally sees i am going without him and grabs a brigh orange old school pfd that has never ever been worn, and puts it on. I look at him and say "you dont have to wear it, but you have to have it incase we get pulled over i want to be legal".
his gf is on the other boat freaking out, laughing etc that he is wearing it.. as she has never seen him wear one in the 10 years they were powerboating...
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 02:20 PM
Way to stand your ground. You just never know...
Must be a skill you started working on 28 mins before sunset this past weekend...
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 02:23 PM
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 07:58 PM
Most pfd's won't roll you over, but they will make it easier for crew or nosy power boater to locate and roll you over. I watched my one of my crew hit the hull really hard
in the ribs. He had a kayak type pfd which didn't have any side protection. He was sore for weeks. I wear a fairly
inexpensive pfd with plenty of padding all around. Never really have a comfort issue.
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Posted: Sep 20, 2010 - 08:38 PM
What a great picture
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