P.S. Have the furler. Need a swivel.. Anyone got one to sell?? ( I have a winery her in CA.. Or trade for vino?? )
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Posted: Feb 15, 2011 - 11:35 PM
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Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:37 AM
http://www.thebeachcats.c…42c20a4839e86d47c2fe7...
above is a link to the 5 pics
you shouldn't need to put a screw through the f/glass hull for the dagger side-loader bungee. mine has 2 stainless saddles mounted on the alloy tramp track base with stainless screws
gelcoat is pretty tough, if i wanted to remove paint from gelocat i guess i would start by putting a dab of gel paint stripper on as a test. and if it worked without damaging the gelcoat i would use rubber gloves and a stainless wool pot scrubber to remove as much as possible
fair chance it will not be perfect under there though, if not the easiest fix would be to mix up some white gelcoat and hand paint it on to the hull on a hot day
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Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 12:04 PM
THx ERICE.. Saw those on a 6.0.. Thats what I neeed to install. Mine does not have them. It has a small hook forward on the top of the hull for a bungi to the top of the Dagger B. If I go through the track base it still goes through the hull I thiink.. Will check today.. Also going to try the stripper idea. THought of that but unsure how tough the glass is. The blue stuff comes off with MEK.. Thx Hal
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Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 02:33 PM
I rivetted a couple of hammock hooks to my deck for side loaders. I would suggest just putting a couple of brass grommets in the tramp on either side and tying the shock cord underneath for the side loaders. To be honest even the shock cord going to the front of the boat isn't that bad a system. The shock cords are pretty much out of the way when the dagger boards are down.
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Posted: Jun 08, 2011 - 12:01 PM
Hi All.. Going to get the girl in the water this week or next.. Still need help with rigging please
Since the forestay slides in the jib pocket.. What is the tension on that forstay. Do I snug up the rigging and tighten it by moving the shroud tention up by adlusting the chain plates?? My studys say that the mast rake should be slightly aft of center.. That should be set with the forestay tack at the fore stay chainplate?? In the Hobie days the forstay did not support the tension the Jib did. Sounds like I need a balance of tension from the jib dounhaul and the forstay tension after the rig is tightened..
Cant seem to find a threading guide to my Main blocks.. Hope to post a pix of the setup..
Also have a pulley mounted on the clip on the rear of the rear xmember. Cant figure out what it is for. The main sheet tacked there after runing through the cleat and guide and traveler..
Will try to get pix on my album for those things Thx in advance.. What a help this has been in geting started with the new boat.. Hal]
Pix are in the Album under 5.2 redo.. Thx Hal
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Posted: Jun 08, 2011 - 02:55 PM
Tension the rig before you put the jib up. Set the rake using the forestay pin and then set the shrouds. Start by setting both shrouds to the lowest pin hole that you can reach easily on both sides. Next go to one side and go one more pin down, go to the other side and grab a trap wire (or have a friend do so) and pull it so you can put the shroud in the same hole as the other side. THat should be enough tension for the rig and still let the mast rotate properly.
Your jib should never have more tension in it than the forestay, you jib won't handle the load of the entire rig. You don't need a lot of tension in the jib luff, just enough to get the wrinkles out, plus maybe a little bit.
Which main blocks do you have? Here are the Harken Reeving Diagrams. Likely you have a 6:1 or 7:1 with a hexacat base. YOu can use the 8:1 here to figure it out. If anyone has some better examples that would be great.
http://www.harken.com/rigtips/Reeving_Diagrams.php
If the block is in the center and faces sternward it is to give you 3:1 purchase on the traveler. Your traveler line goes through the cam cleat on the beam through the block and back to the cam cleat. You then tie it off to the becket on the cam cleat.
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Posted: Jun 09, 2011 - 07:26 PM
Wolfie. Thx for the link to Harken. NEVER Thought about checking there .. Duh... Looks like I have a 6:1 with a block added on the becket.. So it should reevie like the 8:1except that it tacks on the boom and not using a quad bock... making it a 7.375;1 He He.. The lower block I have is the 6:1 Dead end on the cam.. (Photo in the album)..
Now.. For the rear ward facing block on the Xmember.. I could see things working IF.. The line went through the cam cleat.. out to the traveler.. Through the block and back to the traveler. But with the with the line going from the cam cleat to the block, the line runs OVER the traveler track which would preclude the traveler from tacking. AND there is no tac or becket on the traveler to tac the line to.. (Might run it through the U shackle) Supose i could use a clip of some sort.. Not sure I need a 3:1 on the traveler. OK OK Got thinkin about it and went out and asked the girl. She said.. STUPID. I am not a Hobie.. Use a seperate smaller line to get me in and out.. So used to using the tail of the main sheet to trim the traveler.. The space when the block is turned outward does not allow enough roon for the larger sheet to run smoothly.. Still not sure I need a 3:1 cuz in my hobie days the traveler was allways more central for hauling a** l.. Thx so much for the hints..
News from California... is that i just got a 5.2 for $150 with a trailer (all apart) with re-done gel cote on the hulls. Got to put her toghter. Got extra trailers to do in the mean time.. Might need a rudder casting..(got an extra I can buy).. I think it is rather complete except for the casting.. .. P S How do you tell the difference from right and left.. Opps Port and starb.. Thanks for your time and interest.. If u bee in Calif. May have an extre 5.2 you can use !! Hav a small winery here so if the wind is down we still have fun.. Cheers Hal
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Posted: Jun 09, 2011 - 07:55 PM
Oops sorry it goes back to the eye strap on the traveller, hard to picture when you are 2 hours away from your boat and forgot to take a good picture. The same connection you use to attache the mainsheet block to the traveller. You could just remove the pulley though and tie the traveller line to the eye strap the pulley was on. Like you said, you really only need 2:1 on the traveller.
Port and starboard castings are the same, so are the rudders and daggerboards. If you need a casting talk to Dan Berger and Prindle Pete on here both part out boats on a regular basis. I believe all the rudder castings for nacras are the same.
May take you up on that one day.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2011 - 07:46 PM
Hi Dave .. Just brought the new 5.2 home today.. WOW what a steal.. NEW.. wheels, tires axel, berrings for the trailer .. Fresh gel cote.. Good Sails.. Needs 1 rudder and casting as well as linkage.. jib blocks.. mast dimond wires and struts and turnbuckles.. Have the missing rigging from my present boat.. and needs a tramp.. 150$.. A STeal .. Do you have emails for dan and Pete.. Love to start on the project.. Thx Hal
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Posted: Jun 11, 2011 - 08:50 AM
Hal
Someone listed N5.0 parts rudders and casting for sale on this site yesterday, That might work?
Where in Ca. are you sailing, We are in the Ventura area if you ever want to venture this way.
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Posted: Jun 12, 2011 - 06:37 PM
The castings may work the rudders will not. If you bought the rudders and castings you could likely make it work. I think the 5.0 rudders are deeper than the 5.2, 5.5, 5.8 rudders but not sure what other differences there are.
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Posted: Jun 13, 2011 - 08:50 PM
Hi Hal,
I have a couple rudders, castings, and the tiller bar if you need them... not sure what they are worth but they came off a '78 5.2 that I'm using for parts... I can send photos if you want. eric
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Posted: Jun 13, 2011 - 09:00 PM
That sounds like a good opportunity for you!
If that doesn't work out or if you are looking for other parts you can also PM Dan Berger http://www.thebeachcats.com/profile/view/DanBerger and Prindle Pete http://www.thebeachcats.com/profile/view/pbegle they may be able to hook you up.
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Posted: Jun 13, 2011 - 09:34 PM
Thx both you guys!!
My wish list for this "Bargin boat" is.. entire rudder setup.. Jib blocks and tramp wires.. Diamond wire setup.. Wires shackels and spar. (Might be worth it to get a new later model spar) .. Front bridle.. Tramp.. Might need a set of trap lines. May have an old hobie pair that would work?? Center pole if I get a old style tramp.. I do have a mast from a 6.0 HOw fast would i be going with that in the air?? Wonder if I could just flip the old tramp over and leave the pole off?? Also.. What about running a custom tramp over the pole so the deck would be smooth and angled a bit to drain quickly??
May have found some stuff here in Calif. We have a guy who parts out boats in Cal-South. He is checking on a boat..
For my better boat.. Still looking for some cool decals like Wolfie has.. Sent an email to a place in Fl. but no response so far.. Also .. Is that no slip that I see on the rails in all the pix the 2' stuff from Murrys?? Hobies had the fat rug stuff.. Hated it !! SOOO glad to be in the nacra camp.. Thx again.. Hope to hit it wed.. WE have been having real cold weather, but windy as hell.. He He.. Hal
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Posted: Jun 13, 2011 - 10:28 PM
OK, take a look at he guy selling the Prindle 16 stuff on the for sale ads here. He has the jib blocks and main sheet you need. There are a number of adds for stuff like that at good prices on there.
Jib wires, Just use 3/16" dyneema or vectran line covered in a plastic wire cover (like is used on shrouds).
Get a new rigging set from murray's it's not worth it trying to get used rigging, it is too dangerous.
Get rid of the center pole by rivetting the beam straps to the beams with stainless rivets (2 for each strap), make sure the boat is aligned correctly before you do this. then use any tramp you like.
The 6.0 mast will work, it has the same cross section and castings as the 5.2 it is just longer, I can get you a measurement on mine this weekend if you like.
The grip tape on my boat is the murray's 2". It works great, if you rip it you just put more on top or peel it pretty easily.
My decals were custom made locally using a really crappy piece of clipart from the Nacra Web site, it works.
I have an almost new set of sails I might part with cheaply (say $200 for both plus shipping). They have only been used a couple of times but they have some issues. First they were made locally by a tarp manufacturere who copied them from a set of elliot pattersons. So since he knew nothing about sailmaking they are very flat. This is fine for a jib but not so good for the main. Second they are made from 4 oz dacron instead of 5 oz so they are thinner. Other than that, they work, and I have blown the doors off an H16 using them. I was going to keep them and use them as storm sails - I won't sell them unless the person knows what they are getting. PM me and I can take some photos and send them if interested.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2011 - 10:04 AM
I do decals. PM me for my contact info
If you look in the gallery you will see pics of my old 5.2 with a few decals on it. The folder is listed as Turbocat's 5.2 or something similar.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2011 - 11:00 AM
Hey Turbo, I think we talked a while back about decals. I still think I need a little something more. If you can hook me up we should talk!
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Posted: Jun 14, 2011 - 11:41 AM
Hey Turbo, shoot me a PM or email, I've been looking for you.
Is you old page3 yahoo email not working? You should not post your real email on the web, it gets picked up by all manner of evil spam bots. Update your email in the Member Panel and then have folks send you a private message ( you get an email notification IF your account email is correct. )
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Posted: Jun 14, 2011 - 03:07 PM
Wolfman, where did you get your sails? Mine is in definate need of a new set. The two sailmaking houses I contacted never got back to me. I'm in michigan (not that it matters where the sails come from). THX.
Turbo, do you have a contact for Randy Smyth? I can't find any solid info online.
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