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Posted: May 18, 2011 - 07:28 PM
HEY guys, iam new to Beachcats and would like to say hello! I have a 78' 18 Hobie. My question is what kind of cat is called the HOTWAVE! in JAWS2? it was a blue boat.. I thought I saw a sizzler and a Nacra.... also what happened to their fate? thanx Chris
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Posted: May 18, 2011 - 07:51 PM
Welcome to TheBeachcats.com,
I'd have to watch the movie again but there was indeed a Sizzler and some other rare cats. Seems like I remember an Aqua Cat. Whatever they were the kids didn't spend much time actually sailing them, mostly screaming and falling off.
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Posted: May 18, 2011 - 08:31 PM
A sizzler and 2 tornados. I think the tornados are still out there somewhere. I think the sizzler was sacrificed to the shark.
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Posted: May 18, 2011 - 10:19 PM
I bought the two Tornados about 20 years ago (Friedericsens made in Denmark). The sails were lying on the ground and eaten by the squirrels. They came on a hugh trailer in shape of an A with each "T" lying against side of A. Still have them. Pete -
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 08:47 AM
Now THAT is awesome. How much would one of those run? :)
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 09:02 AM
Pete you should post up some pics! -
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 09:44 AM
So is it just me or does everyone who sails cats have to water the 2 movies with cataramans in them whenever they are on? Of course I mean Jaws 2 and ... I will give a cookie to the first person who can name the second one and the type of cat that was in it. I bet it will take less than 5 minutes.
D.
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 10:16 AM
The Tornados now have hard decks (in place of tramp area) of 3/8" nomex honeycomb & carbon fiber with thin layer black carpet over. Ads 40 lbs. Tramps were then moved forward---makes a nice four person cruising boat as they're not really competitive race boats anymore. Sails are very nice (came with my Marstrom). $2000 each plus extra for trailer. Sorry, not into pics as too busy. Pete -
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 10:45 AM
Thomas Crown, Formula 40
I want my cookie hand delivered . . .
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 10:51 AM
the tri in waterworld is pretty bitchin'
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 10:52 AM
There was also a Hobie in The Firm, though beached and not sailing. -
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 11:07 AM
Thomas Crowne is correct, but they were actually 34 ft long D Type cats made to break speed records in the 80s. No cookie for you!
You are correct about Waterworld unfortunately it is painful to watch. At least the other 2 were good movies and the boats actually worked.
Didn't know about the firm, but I'm not sure if it counts if the boat wasn't sailing.
D.
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 11:24 AM
Thomas Crowne is not correct. It's The Thomas Crown Affair.
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 11:32 AM
Still got the boat wrong.
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 11:52 AM
Dave,
Don't trust every thing you read on the internet! It's Formula 40, We sail and talk regularly with two of the sailors who were on the boat, Mark Murray who can been seen skippering my old N20, and Randy Smyth. These guys sail in our area and we mix it up on the course all the time... so make it chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin.
Next time dig a little deeper . . .
http://www.prosail.com/about.html
http://www.boat-charters.…s/Avalon/crewprofile.htm
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ms/viewtopic/topic/11994
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 12:07 PM
Well you got me there. Double chocolate macadamia it is then.
D.
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 12:13 PM
So you are both right, one boat (White Thomas Crowne boat with Randy Smyth really driving) was a Formula 40 and the yellow boat was a D class. Watch the video and you can see they are two different type cats.
http://video.google.com/v…omas+Crown+Affair&hl=en#
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 01:34 PM
Not so fast. Both boats were Prosail Formula 40's (40 ft.) and yes they are different, and yes they're D class. I trust the source, Randy, Mark and Prosail.
So what's all this nonsense with D Class? It's vague I tell ya. Probably the result of webcrawlers and aggregators. IMBd gets it wrong all the time, and from there it has snowballed. So what is the D class? Hydroptere is a D class and she is 79 ft. long. D class is confusing even to the rank and file catamaran elite. Some see it as an old expensive developmental class chasing speed records. Some define it as 32-36 ft and up with 300-500 sqft of sails. You can further confuse yourself by enriching your knowledge base here:
http://www.sailspeedrecor…m/500-metre-records.html
see Gino Morrelli http://www.morrellimelvin.com/team/
A,B.C... http://www.aita.asn.au/in…al-information&Itemid=34
http://forums.sailinganar…ndex.php?showtopic=96680
http://forums.sailinganar…ndex.php?showtopic=96680
back to the original question, what type of cat? Formula 40. . . . I'm happy with double chocolate macadamia!
Edited by mummp on May 19, 2011 - 01:37 PM.
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 02:03 PM
Come on be serious, I'm sure you know the A B C D classes for speed sailing records have nothing to do with Catamaran classes. Unless you believe that an A-Class cat has named Longshot has hit over 40 knots.
The D-Class catamarans were part of an early system of cat classes, which only a couple actually made it. The A-Class is still around and the C-Class is the measurement rule for the "Little Americas Cup" cats. Before the Tornado was selected for the Olympics there were quite a few B-Class (20x10) cats as well, but the Tornado become the only one that mattered with the Olympic connection.
Somewhere I've got an article that explains the history of each class better.
Anyway, here's a video of the yellow boat sailing in Turkey, not a Prosail 40.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XFlZumn-P4
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Posted: May 19, 2011 - 02:12 PM
Point is, someone needs to make a serious cat-sailing movie to fully satiate the members of this board. Anyone got a friend at Warner Bros?
Edited by Headhunter on May 19, 2011 - 02:12 PM.
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