I am planning to video some of my outings next season and I am looking for info about the best places on the cat to mount a camera. I notice many of the youtube videos have the camera mounted somewhere out on the front of the hull. Also looking for how to mount the camera in the different locations ie homemade mounts etc. Thanks.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 - 04:32 PM
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 - 05:22 PM
If you get yourself a GoPro Hero you can purchase all kinds of mounts for it. I love mine. The most ideal place for a camera is actually centered facing forward monted behind the rudders. That way you catch all the action and never dunk the camera. The only mount like that I have seen was used by Rick White in his sailing instructional videos. It appeared to be a couple of aluminum pipes mounted inboard of both hulls and angled reward to make a vee. Other options are on a helmet mount and on the hulls in front of the beam normally near the bridle wires. None are ideal and if you mount to the hull you have to realize that the camera is going to take a beating (which is why the GoPro is a good option). Probably best to have a mount that rivets to the hull with some plastic star rivets, I'm not sure a sticky mount will be strong enough and a suction cup mount will definitely come off.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 - 06:45 PM
Dave thanks for the input. I like your idea of mounting behind the rudders. I will put some thought into
building a mount. I will probably use a helmet mount as well as a handle bar mount on the tiller and tiller crossbar. Probably way too much vibration on the tiller, but easy enough to try and see what happens. I
am also thinking either a clamp mount on the lip on the front of the hull or a bridge across the inner and
outer lips. Easy enough to put a safety tether on the bridals. Ever seen one mounted on a boom? The
H18 has a rectangle boom that would be simple to mount to.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 - 09:28 PM
You really want to try and mount it to a solid platform. Anything that moves (i.e. Rudders and boom) are likely to give you poor results. The headcam can work but you have to be conscious of how much you move your head or people will get seasick. Ideally you want to be able to see the people on the boat and where it is going to get the best perspective. Hence the mount behind the boat. Most often I have seen people mount them to the bows. You don't get the same perception of speed but it is cool to see the crew get thrown about. I will be interested to see what you come up with!
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Posted: Dec 28, 2011 - 09:39 PM
I put my go pro on the rudder of my opti. i like it the most, i have tried bow, head and rudder. i have all of them on my channel.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 - 07:12 AM
i typically mount to the spin pole pointing either forward or back
i have a head strap but it is impossible to restrict your movement and only yeilds small usable clips (and requires editing out all the heavy movements)
I have mounted to the tiller x-bar but the camera was to low and only provided closeups of my travler track...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcYdEYkw-NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UGtFkCsSiY (see the rattle snake we sail over at 4:01)
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Posted: Dec 29, 2011 - 12:23 PM
I just recently got a GoPro Hero2 and plan on mounting it somewhere on my P16. At first I was concerned that the 3M sticky mounts they come with wouldn't be enough...however, I mounted one on my surfboard and after taking a beating in 6-8ft waves for a couple of sessions, the camera was exactly where it should be and the adhesive is very stuck very solid, so I trust if on my boat.
I think that, with a fish-eye lens (which comes with the GoPro's) you can mount it closer to the front crossbar than the videos I see on youtube which have them mounted way out on the bow. Also, with it mounted close enough to reach you can control when to record video and when to stop. I think the only thing I might do to insure the adhesive will stick is lightly sand down a very small area of the nonskid texture for the mount to sit on. Also, there are kits that incluce flat surface mounts and slightly curved surface mounts. It's a really cool toy.
Side note, I will probably try the head-mounted / helmet mount angle as well, but the truth is those videos can be hard to keep watching because of all the movement. I think when the cameras are mounted to the boat and all you see it the horizon line and background change around the boat is a great angle. -
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Posted: Dec 30, 2011 - 10:48 AM
My friend with a H-20 mounts his on the inboard side of the hull at the bow. He uses a window workers suction cup and has a saefty tie to the bridle. He is on U Tube and I can get you the link and more info if you want.. He is quite pleased with the GPS info and the vid..
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Those of you that use the gopro and other digital cameras....what kind of editing software do you like the best? I like the familiar Windows MovieMaker but It will not recognize the mp4 format that these cameras use. Lot of solutions on the net but so far haven't found one that works well. -
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Posted: Dec 31, 2011 - 02:05 PM
This doesn't really answer your question but there are quite a few good tools and articles on videohelp.com. I haven't done any editing for my GoPro yet, but that is where I went for tools in the past. Normally you have to convert your video to another format from MP4, I use AVI for the most part. TMPGENC has always been a solid editing software especially for frame by frame splitting and splicing, some versions of it are still free.
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i use xilisoft video converter (FREE) and windows live movie maker...........between the two of those you can do quite a lot very easily with great results and no expense!!! -
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Posted: Jan 01, 2012 - 05:30 PM
Got a Gopro for christmas , bought this clamp to put it on the bowsprit
http://www.flymount.com/. If you get the gopro tripod - mount , you have
access to a world of accesoires ranging from very pro http://www.manfrotto.us/ to
the stuff you can get from the local camera store.
Gopro has a wide range of mounts itself.
For editing my first movie, I used " final cut pro" , and it was a pain. first a had to learn the software,
then it took me 8 hours to edit this 10 min movie.http://youtu.be/EC2ucO6AiJ4. Made some painful
mistakes in it.
So, next time I'll use imovie and try to get some different camera-positions.
Regards, André
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Mac's make video and audio easy. Comes with I-movie built in and is great for easy video editing . -
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@ MN3 ,
Yes, mac makes it easy with i-movie, final cut pro is for professionals. Problem on a modern mac is you get
i-movie in a package called i-life, You must register and create an mobile-me account before you can use it.
Just want to edit a little video, not become part of a community. So I removed i-life from my mac.
Problem is solved now, got an older version of i-movie
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Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 11:15 AM
i movie comes with every mac. so does iphoto, idvd, etc. (i-now-broke too)
I-lfe upgrades these programs into a more pro / featured versions (and more complex). I have this upgrade.
Mobile-me is not (or was not) needed to register/use i-movie (i dont recall needing it for the I-life upgrade either), and it is free. I have it for my "Find my Iphone" application, i have never had to log into any "community" ...
Final Cut is def high-end, I used Premiere and After Affects in art school so video software is not that tough for me to learn. ... glad you got a solution that works for ya -
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Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 01:39 PM
When I removed i-life from my mac, i-movie i-photo i-dvd were gone, yes i did it myself.
But lets forget it, its off topic and I found a way to edit my videos,
Instead I would like to give my best wishes for 2012 to everyone, from over here in Europe.
Regards, André
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Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 02:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkgJB9USPM
This video has the best camera angle I've ever seen. Go right to 2:40
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Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 02:25 PM
I use http://www.avs4you.com/ products for a lot of different video/audio editing/processing. The whole package is about $80 but well worth it. It reads the GOPro video format and allows output in a variety of formats. -
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Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 04:08 PM
lots of places you can mount if you are willing to do lots of edits
have mounted to the rotating mast just under the boom
mid-boom
main beam
and a helmet
go-pro wasn't available so got a pentax optio,
but now canon, olympus and fuji also make waterproof "sports" digicams
the big advantage of the gopro is the wide angle lens, but that also limits some possible viewing positions like the top of the mast looking down
personally i think lots of short edits and a clip that is under a song long is the only way to go
a 5min clip from the end of the spin pole with clicking water is a bit .......
so imho you need to go out and shoot about an hour of footage over a season from lots of positions and then trim your clips down to a few seconds of fresh action each
then use really easy editing software to stitch them all together
i tried and failed a couple of times to make anything with windows moviemaker
but imovie on a macbook was easy
after that it was possible to go back to moviemaker and make something ok but i miss the effects that come bundled with imovie
http://vimeo.com/5075989
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j55lMDEBmP8
no sailing now as
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKsYJmX3so
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Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 06:14 PM
Those are some good vids and beautiful lakes
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