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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 - 01:33 PM
Thanks. I saw that Nacra in Milton. A little rich for my wallet. I'm gonna have to find one of those to good to be true deals for me to jump on. I'm keeping an eye on craigslist within a 250 mile radius for one but I'm having a little trouble getting free to go look at any right now. There is a Hobie 16 also in Milton that I wanted to go see but just can't get time away right now. But, if the right one comes along, at the right price, I think I could get a sitter for Cathy long enough to go see, just not right now. -
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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 - 04:06 PM
Hey if you will 2 months I will bring my boat over to Pensacola and go. But u probably cxan get a better deal on a boat in the winter.
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Posted: Jan 15, 2012 - 06:49 PM
I'll be here. I'm not sure of what my circumstances will be but if you'll let me know when and where, I'll try to at least get time to look at your craft and maybe help rig it up ( just lend a watchful hand) . I was also thinking that winter time would be best for someone searching for a bargain but I'm not in control of my time right now. -
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 05:04 PM
I may have found something. I'm wondering if anybody knows anything about this boat. http://pensacola.craigslist.org/boa/2802264386.html The guy sounds nice but in these days, a person needs to be careful. I'm hoping Cathy will be strong enough to go for a ride tomorrow to look at it. -
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 06:18 PM
how is your wife doing? and how are you doing? hopefully you will have some improvements to build on soon. i am currently caretaking for my wife as she recovers from brain surgury, again. stupid ole' cancer, poor girl has learned to walk for the third time in her life. when the tumer grows, she is paralized on the left side of her body and loses all function of it...there is never any guarantee she will regain function but yet she has each time. i know the strains of being a caretaker and the importance of taking care of yourself, it's a 24/7 job and you put your life on hold to do it. two years ago mindy was recovering over the holidays just like now and if it weren't for sailing and fixing up the boat i would have gone crazy...you have to keep looking to the future whatever it is and have something fun to look forward to besides docter visits. i have been lucky that both times here lately the surgeries have been in the offseason and by march she is back to work, hopefully this time too. get a boat!...it gives you something to do and look foreward to...you have to take care of yourself to care for her. in the meantime i will be praying for cathy and you mi amigo, sure has helped us!
hang in there! bill.
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 06:23 PM
That boat looks great, however I strongly advise looking up starboard marine, I think its closer to Destin. The guy restores old Hobies and I have heard many great reviews and reasonable prices. He advertises on CL quite often but he is in the phone book.
EDIT www.starboardmarineinc.com
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 07:05 PM
Hi Cathy is doing as well as can be expected right now. She is stable but in poor condition. I'm expecting to get some help with respite care to give me a break. They have already said that we can get 35 hours for someone to sit with her. Just don't know when anything is actually going to happen. Trying to find something for me to do is about all I can do to keep from dwelling on things to come. We have already out lived all expectations for her and I'm in no hurry for anything to change. Thanks for your prayers and concern. I'm glad to hear your wife can expect a recovery, and in time for the summer will be a great time to get out and about.
I grew up spending most of my time hanging out at the beach and hopefully being able to get to secluded beaches, I can enjoy living here again. I don't know but hopefully, a beach cat opens a lot of new trails to explore. Without a job and since I quit drinking, I don't know anything that's fun anymore, at least anything I am able to do now days.
Hi Bacho. I have looked at Starboard and if he were a lot closer, I would probably have found time to check him out. He is a little more expensive than this boat but being from a person that does repairs on these things would go a long way in reassuring myself that I'm being told everything about the boat. Also, the boats he has advertised close to this price are 14s and I think a 16 will be better for carrying extra stuff for me to go overnighting with when time becomes my own again. -
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 07:33 PM
Ya, I would suggest a 16 over the 14. He sells a lot of boats though, I would check with him every so often.
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 - 08:38 PM
Hobie 16's are tanks, especially pre 80, I picked up a 79 H16 and she was solid, apparently Hobie, the company was sold twice after 1980, first time to AMC (?) a motorcycle company, and then to Coleman. In both cases, to cut costs, they cut back on the fiberglass layup, made for a lighter cat, but hull structure was seriously weakened. So if you can get your hands on a pre-80's H16 that has solid hulls with no delamination, awesome. But if I were in your situation, I would look at the P16, high volume hulls would enable you to construct a cargo tramp forward to carry all your gear for overnight trips and a crew member. I would recommend a furling jib instead of the original hook and ring jib just to make your sailing experience more enjoyable.
The last 4 digits on the hull numbers etched into the transom on the H16 will give you the year of construction.
Turbo
H14
H16
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Swan 65-1
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 01:20 AM
The problem with getting a Prindle is that they aren't everywhere like the Hobie. I'll be checking the hull #'s later today if I'm lucky. He says he thinks its an 89 But I think it has a single piece mast from trying to get a good look at the pictures. If thats right, doesn't that make it an early 80s? -
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 05:15 AM
Yes, that sail number is a little low as well for an 89. Its the hulls that count though.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 07:44 AM
there is no problem getting prindle parts, look at the classifieds here for example. murray's carries the factory parts new also. the p-16 is better suited for your needs also- lighter than h-16, carries more weight, less likely to flip and pitchpole, more stable... believe me, i grew up a hobie guy-14,16,18...thought prindles were goofy...until i got one. i own both p-16 and h-16, the h-16 is collecting dust. the improvements prindle made over the h-16 are the standard for modern cats today- high volume hulls(esp. on the bow), forestay bridle not on the bow tip(pitch pole maker), modest jib(never gets hung up on mast), crossbars mounted directly to hulls(stiffer design), come from factory equiped with harken blocks(bullet proof) just a better design alltogether. for cruising/camping it's the better choice but if you desire fleet racing, go hobie. i still race my p-16, they just lump me in with all other non-spin boats(besides h-16's)...i don't mind that because i'm the highest rated boat in the race useually. the hobie is a faster light wind boat with that big jib but when the winds start blowin', the modest sail plan of the prindle becomes an advantage...if you get caught in a storm, you would rather be on the prindle...when i was a kid, it was fun to flip the boat, don't care for it now. just wanted to give you some heads up on the prindles, don't turn your nose up!
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 08:34 AM
Oh, I wouldn't turn my nose up at a Prindle. I have been doing a lot or research on small catamarans and wouldn't hesitate to choose a Prindle being all other things were equal as in price and location. I've always been one to explore a different path than the masses and with all things being close to equal, always choose the less used path. You wouldn't know where a good one is for around $800 or less would you? -
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 10:34 AM
There is a P15 close to me....
http://kansascity.craigsl….org/boa/2780514040.html
The P15 does not have a jib, this would make it quite easy to throw on a furling jib.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 10:57 AM
Just called and spoke to the guy listing the cat for sale, he still has it and knows nothing about sailboats, says the P15 was donated to a charity and he is trying to sell it for the cash. I did clarify that it is a P15, sticker on side of hulls declares it to be a P15, and he says it only has 1 sail. If you are interested, I could pursue this further, go and look at the cat for you and let you know. A vacation down to Gulf Shores is long overdue, could always bring it down for you and help out with rigging and sailing. I also have a spare furling jib sail that came off my H16, all you would need is to obtain the Harken Small Boat Furler and Swivel
http://www.harkenstore.co….ShowProd?B4RPMEB9Y9CLEO, and have a pigtail or upper forestay made to measure and you ready to go.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 02:57 PM
I missed the opportunity to go look at the Hobie 16. It was too cold to take Cathy out today, Found out that that P15 is a single person craft and wouldn't fit what I want to do. Thank you so much for the offer though.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 03:55 PM
Just a reminder, the P15 is a one person boat. On your original post, you mentioned the possibility of taking a friend out on the boat. I have a P15, the boat is very difficult to sail with two folks; it could be my lack of sailing skills, but sailing with two on a P15 is hard work. The P15 also does not like to tack regardless of weight onboard. I also have a P16, yes, I've turned her over with crew on, but, she is by far more predictible and generally goes where she is told, with less effort than the P15. The larger hull size and the jib make a substantial difference. I'm not trying to scare you away from a P15, just reporting my observations and humble opinion.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 09:08 PM
Thanks Backasswards. I hadn't read enough to know that.I figured just being short of a 16 and I thought the Prindle had more flotation than the Hobie 16 would kinda equal thing out. And even if I always go solo myself, my son would likely want to play with it when ever he comes on vacation and he wouldn't want to play by himself.
Hi Turbohobo. I hope you catch this before you go to any trouble on my behalf. I found out that that craft wouldn't suit my needs after all but I want to thank you for your very generous offer. I did edit my previous post in case you hadn't read it yet. -
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 09:25 PM
No worries mate, having never seen a P15 before, I too, assumed that it would only be a foot shorter than the P16, but would have the same high volume hulls. I know the problems associated with a uni-rig, ie, they tack like a be-yatch, and that's why I suggested the roller furling jib add-on. But hey, I might just pick up that cat myself, offer the guy $400 cash, throw on a jib and sell it for a tidy profit......
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Posted: Jan 19, 2012 - 04:20 AM
Thank you for understanding. I'm hoping to go see the h16 near me today if the people helping me bathe Cathy come and go early enough.
Having read so much about keeping the jib cleated or not switching sides till the tack was past the wind change to push the front on around, I have wondered why I see shorter cats without a jib as standard equipment. I had just assumed they were likely just easier to work with being a little shorter. I tend to not ask all the questions I come up with but instead come to my own conclusions a lot of the time. So here goes. What is a "jibe". It seems like that is used sometimes where the term "tack" should be used.
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