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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 12:55 PM
I have to be one of the luckiest poor bas#$*&$ in the world. Not only did I find a sweet woman that has loved me from the first, all the way through more than 38 years of being together. I have a son that is way better than he could have been seeing the way I wasn't much of a sharing person when he was growing up. Now I have been given a Prindle 16 with what seems to be solid hulls upon first inspection. I have the hulls, cross beams, rudders, and mast. Hopefully, this will be the start of something good
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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 03:37 PM
i told you!!! stop looking for a boat and they come to you! it's how i got my prindle. now the fun begins, inspection, assembly, and shopping. this will light a fire under you! congrads!
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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 04:38 PM
I can't let it light to big a fire. Car repairs took a good portion of my cat funds but I'll get things together. Hopefully this summer I can try to talk Cathy into trying to ride on it when I get it seaworthy. I spoke a little too soon about the hulls being in good shape. A lot of the deck is delaminating but the sides of the hulls sound solid. I didn't want to seen like a jerk when we were taking it apart to load up so I didn't do any real checking for soft spots but it is fixable, one way or another.I figure I'll learn quite about how things go while learning about the rigging. As an iron worker, I learned a lot about rigging cables and making different size chokers and spreaders and things. If I can make rigging that holds up tens of tons, I figure I can make the rigging for a little catamaran. May have to get or rent a crimper but thats no big deal. I am looking for some very cheap sails and a trampoline if you hear of some. I don't mind a few making a few temporary repairs just to get something to play with till I can get something better. I hear you can fix some nasty sails with some ripstop nylon and sail tape to get by with temporarily.
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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 05:57 PM
DT,
Did you see the prindle 16 sails advertised here on beach cats? Fate is shining on you....
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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 06:47 PM
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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 09:01 PM
Also keep an eye on ebay search prindle. There is a seller names tdive5 that sells a lot of used cat stuff. He has had some decent stuff including some random hardware pack of stuff that would cost a lot to buy new. Most of you may not use or may be spares but lots of it is worth it if you need some of it. They also may have lots that is not listed on eBay and he recommends you contact them.
Also Pete Begle on this forum usually has a good supply of used Prindle parts in CA at Big Bear.
If you make you own rigging that's great. You can use the bench crimping tool at West Marine if you have one close but as one who has bled all over my local west marine I find the prices for finish rigging to be quite reasonable. Try murrays or salty dog marine for rigging sets.
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Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 10:14 PM
i was going to make all new rigging for my boat. bought the swagger and some ferrels and did a bridle set this past season. didn't have time this winter to do it with the wife's cancer being a pain in the azz so i bought a set from salty dog (150$ shipped). haven't put it on yet but it looks nice so i can't vouch for it, we will see how it handles the dauphin island race for the initial stress test! check out sail care on line for the ss lines and thimbles/ferrels...the go for about .72cents per foot there as opposed to $2 per @ west marine. you will just need some accurate measurements to go by. i figured i could do my own for about 100$ this way but just didn't have the time being a caretaker/nurse/cook/maid/psychotherapist/chauffer/sex machine, you know...
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Posted: Mar 03, 2012 - 05:12 AM
YeaI know how it is, not counting the sex machine part. Abig part of why I gave in to Cathy and moved back to Pensacola was to get some decent help with Cathy's care and it took a little over two years after she was approved for it before anything started to happen. Now, I have to figure out what to do with myself. I'm gonna have to look up that salty dog place. I don't have any "spare" cash but getting a full set for just approximately $50 over homemade cost may turn out to be cheaper since I don't have any measurements and I would be likely to make some mistakes costing extra money on materials. I am gonna have to watch my enthusiasm and not go on a spending spree though. here I am up before daylight looking a cat stuff. -
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Posted: Mar 03, 2012 - 08:50 AM
just threw in the sex machine part for giggles, chemotherapy doesn't get her in the mood like margaritas! download the owners manual here for starters for it is your bible, don't sweat the cosmetic stuff yet-that comes after you know you have the boat right and tight. search this site as you come across questions, it is the largest collection of prindle tips on the planet! and naturally, don't be afraid to ask qeustions when stumped.
make a list of everything you need and take your time shopping it, that's how you save money. you might even come across more free stuff like sails/tramp etc.. if you want to sail next weekend then you can drop some cash and do that if you please also. i 'm still praying for you guys, hang in there.
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Posted: Mar 03, 2012 - 09:10 AM
Tanks. I appreciate the prayers and the encouragement. I won't be sailing in the next few weeks, needless to say. I have a kayak to play with for myself but would really like to get Cathy to be able to get excited doing something again, and sharing that excitement with her would/will be the best thing I could ever experience. I'll have some time to take her to the beach and get her used to not being able to sink with a life vest on and I think I can get this to happen. -
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Posted: Mar 03, 2012 - 04:09 PM
Don't fret to much if the wife doesn't take to the water to much. My wife has been on the boat a few times but prefers to sit on the beach on read most of the time. The sailboat has become the focus of our family summer vacation fun with long weekend camping at the lake and such. My wife has probably had more fun sailing on other peoples boats than ours. She had a great time on a friends N20 with 2 of my sons and that trip included a capsize where she was separated from the boat and a dagger board banged her in the shin. She has also been out on another friends monohull and had some great fun.
We have a sailing group we go with to several outings over the summer and she hangs with the other women and has a great time. She also makes for excellent ground crew (usually) backing the trailer like a pro (though she has a tendency yo float the the thing), and even rescuing us off other beaches from time to time when we were starting out and ended up landing on different beaches than we started on.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 03:56 PM
Well, I don't know what to say. Things are starting to come together. I am blessed. is all I can say except thank you to everyone and one special thanks to someone for gifting me a pair of sails. I was called away to Cathy when first inspecting them but could easily tell they were very useable. After taking care of Cathy I got them spread out and they turn out to bet in pretty good shape. There are even grommets in place for shortening the sail area to make things slow down to make it comfortable so as not to scare Cathy. At least I think that's what they are for. Maybe not real pretty but not ugly either. Actually, I think they are gorgeous. I believe I will get Cathy to at least ride on it with me this summer. I already bought her a ski vest and will show her she can't sink with it on. I also found a trampoline for cheap in Panama City Beach and hopefully I will learn a few more things about MY boat. At least enough to know what is still missing. -
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 04:06 PM
Well I am glad your on your way. Those holes are for Reefing the sail.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 05:05 PM
Hey good luck on the restoration, tdive on ebay.... send him a message if you don't see what you want. I asked for some stuff and he created a listing for me. The hardware pack in my opinion was a mixed bag. I got 9 gudgeons? really 9, 3 bent shroud adjusters, but a whole bunch of useful stuff like rudder bolts and other hard to find stuff. All in all its worth it even tho I'm going to throw half of it out.
when I finally get around to getting all my stuff together I should have some nice writeups in the tech section. Im still working on the rudders and I've got the trailer in a million pieces right now too.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 07:46 PM
Thats what I thought, I just couldn't get the word to come to me. i often know what is going through my mind but having trouble recalling the correct words sometimes. I once thought I was getting alzheimers but its just with words and faces. I'm never lost or totaly confused so I can live with whatever it is.
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 10:03 PM
I've seen some of those do the parts in any way match what is in the pic for the sale or are they just random?
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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 06:57 AM
For me it was a mixed bag, I got crossbar bolts and rudder bolts all bent. I'd say 50/50 on useable vs junk but I got some stuff that would be expensive to replace. So I'm very neutral on the purchase, but as soon as I break or loose a part that I have a replacement for I'll feel like a genius.
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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 03:51 PM
I got back from Panama City with a better mast, a trampoline with the lines for installing it, a seaway block and tackle, and shroud adjusters. I also got a little more knowledge about my catamaran. I need to figure out how to make a boom and rig up the seaway block and tackle and make a new set of rigging. Almost forgot the drain plugs. They always seem to be the last thing I remember if I remember them at all. I need to figure out how to make a back rest for Cathy to be able to ride with me. She is just too weak to be able to sit up by herself. Does anybody know of a setup like that that anyone has made. I don't want/need a wing setup, just something to help Cathy hold herself up and not fall over and I figure a back rest would work best for her. -
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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 04:45 PM
Does she need to sit up?
The tramp on a P16 is pretty comfy.
Cathy could just lie on it and still have plenty to see.
(I have spent many glorious nights sleeping on one lakeside)
When my grandmother was 73, she crewed for me in a local regatta. Two races, the second one SABCABCF. She laid on the tramp, held the jib sheet and rolled to the other side when we tacked. She was smiling the whole time (and slept the entire ride back to town afterward).
You won't be in any tacking duels, so if the air is light Cathy may not have to roll at all. Prop her head up with a throwable and she may feel safer than she would sitting on the edge of the hull anyway.
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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 06:06 PM
I don't think she would enjoy laying down for a sail. Its a Prindle and I have heard that it gets pretty wet on them and the tramp is mesh. I wouldn't have her moving back and forth for tacking or anything. Thats one of the special things about the sails I have, They have a reefing setup already with grommets in the sail to keep the stress and speed down.
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