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arch

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Posted: Mar 07, 2012 - 03:56 PM

Been wracking my brain and searching to find a reasonably priced storage system for my trailers. So far I have found 16" white PVC in 20' length for $500. Cut it in half for two 10' lengths at $250 plus a cap for $124 = $375 plus tax.

We know sail boxes are closer to $1,000. Nice but..........

And then, there's this:

http://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/rough-plumbing/pipes-tubing-fittings/pipes/hdpe-culvert/15-x-20-culvert-pipe/p-1451755-c-9567.htm
(or search SKU # 6899273)

A 15" diameter HDPE corrogated black pipe with a smooth interior. A 20 ft section is on sale now at my local Menards for $148, and when you cut it into two 10' sections comes to $80 with tax. $8 per foot. Make some end caps (to fit the inside diameter) out of painted plywood and you've got something that doesn't break the bank. This stuff is stiff enough that it can be picked up at one end of a 20' section and it won't bend over the full length.

Not the best for wind resistance, but put the money you save into your gas tank!!

Just an idea.........
j

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halliske

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Posted: Mar 07, 2012 - 05:43 PM

Arch.. Look around at construction sites. Lots of leftover pipe and drain pipe for free.. Spend a bit of cash on the end caps and the mounting brackets. 10 foot and less pipe is trash an not usable.. Hal

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arch

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Posted: Mar 07, 2012 - 07:22 PM

trouble is, a 15-16" diameter pipe might be hard to find just laying around. that's pretty big.
i'm trying to get main sail, daggers, blocks, gin pole, tie-down straps, etc into the thing.
j

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halliske

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Posted: Mar 07, 2012 - 07:39 PM

Watch for road construction sites. The use that black stuff for drains. I once got 300 feet of 30 in stuff that got left behind.. Also. Check out irrgation supplys.. they have scraps for cheep..

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Hal Liske
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bill40421SE

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Posted: Mar 07, 2012 - 08:36 PM

In '89 I got a 14" round aluminum duct work pipe and built a sealed end and a removable locking end cap that has severed me well all those years since then. Building the cradles for that pipe to sit in was the hardest part and that was easy.
I could inquire the cost of picking up a few 10' pieces of 14" round aluminum pipe and the end caps if there is an interest. I would need to have my fab shop build 4 of each style end caps for the price to become more reasonable.
I did build a long mailbox style sail tube for my 16 Hobie back in '85 and it still looks new. I made that one out of aluminum walk plate. One end welded and the other end hinged down like a mail box. I built that for myself at the shop that I worked in and got a good deal on the metal at the time. Today market, that would be pricey.
You can't go wrong using aluminum as it will not need painting and light on the trailer.

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arch

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Posted: Mar 07, 2012 - 09:00 PM

halliske,
i thought $80 was pretty cheap.......not compared to free of course, but what is my time worth, driving around and if i do find something, tracking down the right subcontractor and begging them to give it to me for free and it may be damaged and not really what i want? this way i can drive right to the store and be home within 1 hr with something brand new. i can't afford to roam all over the city when i should be making $ working.

i appreciate what you're saying, especially when you stumble across something that's scrap. but after searching i may just come up empty and waste hours looking.............
j

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Drummer63

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Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 05:39 AM

On the flip side though - you know that you are gonna go drop the 80 bucks on the pipe, buy your mounting hardware, grunt and curse to assemble and then find a perfect piece lying by the road the very next day :) Just sayin :)

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KennyB

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Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 06:26 AM

My friend has a good used fiberglass box for sale...$375 plus shipping

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arch

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Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 09:33 AM

hah! has the definition of 'frugal' been rewritten?
i thought i've been accused of being cheap.........
j

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Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 11:54 AM

bill40421SEIn '89 I got a 14" round aluminum duct work pipe and built a sealed end and a removable locking end cap that has severed me well all those years since then.

Ouch, Bill, maybe you oughta consider filing down some of those sharp edges!

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bill40421SE

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Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 05:30 PM

Sorry about that Jerome, I meant to say "served me well..."

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halliske

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Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 11:06 PM

My motto is "Patience grashopper.. Patience grasshopper" If you never went out you would have to search for stuff. But being mindfull of things when going to the store to buy beer and checking out a section of road work could pay off bigtime. We are a month away for reasionable sailing here in "sunny Ca" Spend the bucks if you have to.. Butt.. If not.. use the bucks for more beer!! Hal

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Posted: Mar 09, 2012 - 02:44 PM

halliskeWatch for road construction sites. The use that black stuff for drains. I once got 300 feet of 30 in stuff that got left behind.. Also. Check out irrgation supplys.. they have scraps for cheep..

Do yourself a favor and make sure someone is at the construction site and that you ask for the "scrap".
Would hate to see a fellow cat sailor arrested for theft
John
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Posted: Mar 09, 2012 - 04:56 PM

You would be amazed at the amount of material I have had access to over the years by showing up on a jobsite, speaking to the Super, and asking for scrap.. You are doing them a favor cuz they do not have to dispose of it and often time the subcontractors leave it in the trash heaps.. Hal

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Hal Liske
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Posted: Mar 09, 2012 - 05:34 PM

I have had some good opportunities for side of the road construction scrap however what I found was pretty thick and to heavy for me to move alone so I never got any of it. I had no real need for it at the time and no place to store it for later.

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Dustin Finlinson • Magna, UT
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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 08:12 PM

Dustin.. I will keep my eyes open and bring it to Tahoe... Hal

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Quarath

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Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 09:42 PM

QuoteDustin.. I will keep my eyes open and bring it to Tahoe... Hal

Did I miss something above... What are you bringing?

If you mean material for sail tube I do have and old style CatBox that leaves fiberglass on your arm if your not careful. I'm not sure if it will hold enough for 2 boats. Maybe if I take out all the tools and life jackets it might. I'm gonna have to find/sew me sail a bag or 2 soon I think.

As for Tahoe.. I am already there is spirit. Realty will depend a bit on the timing and the money but with your's and Al's connections I hope to make it a reality. While the wife doesn't seem against it she hasn't shot it down either but then again she had her eyes set on a cruise. I think she expects it will be just another weekend at the lake.

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halliske

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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 06:21 PM

Perhaps it it "Boys Night Out" Just having a burewski ot two amd some mid week sailing !

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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 06:41 PM

Found a guy selling a bunch of 20"PVC on CL. I want to make sail storage for under my boat at the beach.
I am thinking of making plywood ends for it. A floor to keep the sail off the bottom, some legs out of 4x4 to keep it off the sand. I will install some plastic household register vents on the plywood end caps. I have a WM gift card, I want to get a solar powered/battery operated fan, like used on sailboat decks to create some positive ventilation. Should all come in under $300 plus the giftcard.

Thoughts?

Edited by kgatesman on Mar 14, 2012 - 09:26 PM.
arch

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Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 10:07 PM

don't forget the screen to keep out the ant colonies and other bugs.........
j

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'99 Nacra Inter20 (sold)
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