Tomorrow they are calling for 25 to 35 mph winds here in Chicago With gusts up to 40. SSW of it matters. Any of yous think it could be done? I don't think it will be possible. Maybe with the job only half furled!
Would any of you try it?
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Tomorrow's forecast: would you dare?
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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 09:16 PM
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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 10:07 PM
sounds expensive...i just finished sewing up a tear on my jib from yesterdays 20 kt day.
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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 10:16 PM
had similar here yesterday
i left my 5.2 on the beach, even if i could have survived it i probably wouldn't have enjoyed it
took the 14'x12' weta tri instead, it got a real work out but surfing/planing downing under gennaker was excellent fun
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 04:45 AM
jib only is fine downwind.. not so fun up wind.
also, beach cat furlers are not set up for reefing like big boat furlers. it's possible for a little while but i would put money on it not lasting long in 30-40knot winds -
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 07:28 AM
I'm sailing our SC17 tonight in forecasted 20 knots + gusts 25 with my regular crew. It's a delivery sail to our beach, can't drive it down there atm. So I need to sail it a mile upwind, I think we'll take jib off for this one. Even though the main is huge allready on this boat. The same area as a N5.8 on 2 feet less of boat. It will be awesome!
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 11:28 AM
Do it! Sounds like fun! The hardest part would be rigging the boat i think... I brought my 18 ft cat out into the ocean during a small craft advisory 20-30 knt winds with 3 adults and some camping equipment on board. It was weighed down enough that it wasn't too sketchy as far as flipping over, but it was pretty darn fast. After camping on an island for the night (as we planned to) we got back the next day and noticed that all but one or 2 of the little wires in the shround cables were broken
I have no idea how we didn't lose the mast. It was still fun though!
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 11:31 AM
I'm not all that experienced as a sailor, but i always thought having a jib aided in sailing into the wind?
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 12:24 PM
That sounds like hell to me. Just getting the mast up in that kind of wind sounds like hell. I think I'll stick with my low-wind days here.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 12:42 PM
I would pass. But the SW direction helps keep the waves to a minimum on our side of the lake. Still showing 3-5 foot waves though. Which doesn't sound bad for those ocean sailors, but Lake Michigan waves and high frequency and steep, unlike Pacific rollers. I have done both. In 35+ I hope you have heavy experienced crew and a well maintained boat. Wings on your 18 will make for a better day in those conditions also.
In those conditions you are asking to find the weak link in your boat and rigging. I might be getting old in my mid-thirties, but I stop by 30 mph for wind speed. It stops being fun and turns into survival sailing at some point. Everyone's point is different but we all get there. Lake Michigan is also not the same as doing that on a smaller inland lake. Which I might still do.
I was out this weekend on Lake Michigan, water is still chilly. Be safe.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 03:59 PM
~~ Hey Damon..... Ya gotta put a "like" button on here. I like Dan Berger reply
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 08:49 PM
I like the last 2 comments, Damon.
I was kidding about a half furled jib. Personally forecasts of 25mph are my limit with full sails on inland lakes.
Finley, I went out Saturday. It was real good. The wAter ain't bad until the crew on the wire splashes you.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 - 10:52 PM
Actually the jib only helps while reaching and downwind. Upwind you point higher on just the main. And you won't get overpowered as fast.
We did't sail anyway, average wind was 26 knots + gusts over 30.
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 07:29 AM
I did not know that, thanks!
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 12:00 PM
I'm more than willing to go out when it's honking like that......on someone else's boat!
What's Tami's saying? Something like "above 18 knots it doesn't get any faster.....just more expensive"!
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 04:53 PM
That sounds like the beginning of a story that ends very poorly.
keep in mind most beach cats are designed for the weight of 2 adults. by adding more weight and more wind.. you increase the loads on your stays/rudders/hulls/sails/mast/ etc and .... somethings GONNA give eventually. -
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 06:34 PM
I am here in Chicago. Unfortunately I did not make it out (stupid work!). I have not heard if the nut jobs I sail with did. I have gone on days like that. A Hobie 18 with 3 or four (2 trap'd for sure) works well. A Hobie 16 with 2-200 lb guys works too up to about 35 kts. The 35-40 range is tricky as a little gust and your done.
Also, it's early in the season, wait till September/October/November and your mad skills are all tuned up.
I have some video of big days here on my you tube channel...
http://www.youtube.com/user/abnorm58
this one in particular has a 40 kt day in it
http://youtu.be/xD7m8Vrbi6w
altho last years best of is my new fav.
http://youtu.be/xD7m8Vrbi6w as I get the Inter 18 airborn and we had a late season huge wave day.
always looking for skilled crew
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 08:04 PM
2 windy days in a row...2 repairs for me...worth every penny!!! the broad reach going down/across the waves was addictive...acceleration from hell!!! now to find a new dolphin striker strap...FAST!!!
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 10:18 PM
yes, you are quite right... we were pretty careless... but it was an old beater 18ft solcat i got for $600. No way i would treat a more expensive boat like that... we also had another backup boat out with us in case it did end very poorly...
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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 - 11:10 PM
Bill Get the Hotties to sew the Jib 4 U. Keep their weight on their rear.. Trim it doing down.. sheet in to keep the tip up.. Hard to keep the matches dry.. but have a smoke after. Rocken sunday !! Fix it for next week.. Just sayen. Try some of our right coast beer. Changes in Latitude.. Changes in attitude.. Jimmey was on target!! Buffett-ster knew what was up.. H
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