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  • WolfmanThey are STILL one of the fastest cats ever made. I think the only 20' or smaller boast with a lower portsmouth rating are Marstrom 20 and the Nacra 20 Carbon. Mr. March knew what he was doing in 67!


    I tend to take what you say with due respect. I never met a Canadian that I didn't like. Now please stop it before I end up with a damn boat sitting 45 degrees on the trailer!

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    82 Hobie 18 Alter Signature Model. (The Cisco Squid) Complete refit down to the rivets in 2012.
    81 H-16
    Rescue California
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  • I blame you all for having a gorgeous 1976 sailcraft tornado in my yard. This thing even looks fast.
    I am the third owner of this beauty. Even came with extra sails and beach wheels.

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    Pete Knapp
    Schodack landing,NY
    Goodall Viper,AHPC Viper,Nacra I20
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  • Congratulations! Awesome!

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    82 Hobie 18 Alter Signature Model. (The Cisco Squid) Complete refit down to the rivets in 2012.
    81 H-16
    Rescue California
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  • Poor Hobie 18's & 16's; they are about to be neglected!!! Pete
  • HaHa Pete you might be right. Posted some pics under pete's tornado. This thing is in amazing condition.

    http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=90928&g2_serialNumber=3

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    Pete Knapp
    Schodack landing,NY
    Goodall Viper,AHPC Viper,Nacra I20
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  • nice boat, i would have 1 in a flash

    basically the gold standard for old beach cats

    such a wealth of tuning tips and equipment out there

    i wouldn't avoid an frp classic

    but i would avoid an old woodie...
  • We have a Panthercraft tornado in our fleet, early 70's. Heavy snow load (remove tramp in snow country) 3 winters ago caused major cracking of frp. Repairs have proved very satisfactory, but I prefer my woodie. One hour of sanding once a year & one hour for re-varnishing. A woodie means epoxy coating inside as well as outside of hull effecting encapsulating wood with epoxy resin. Pete
  • parting out a fiberglass tornado. vicelefante@yahoo.com
  • QuoteTrailering and launching with a tilt trailer is a noticably bigger deal than with an 8' wide boat,

    Dave Farmer, can you shed some light on what makes it more complicated?
    I looked at a bunch of T's, thought it would be easy to find one up here, as SCOC made them here for years, & the Olympics were sailed in Kingston. All I ever found were woodies, generally in sad states, or more work than I wanted. I just looked over one that had the measurers stamp & signature on the sail from CORK in the mid 80's. There are a couple of Marstroms for sale, but to much for my snack bracket, or more correctly I have split my fun money into too many hobbies!
    I found a 2001 Mystere 6.0XL, (basically a copy of the T), with square top, spin, double trap,furling, front tramp, wings from an H21, along with the full setup to make it into an 8' beam. It came on a custom aluminum trailer with electric winch to raise mast, 3 sail boxes,(2 plastic 1 fibreglass) beach dolly & a bunch of spare odds & ends. The negotiated price was so damn good I just had to buy it. I don't NEED another cat, but...(my wife says it's a cheaper hobby than 22 yr old flight attendants).
    I will store it mast up at my dock, but may consider a few road trips. I was thinking, pull two quick pins, turn the crank til it's flat, raise the stik & back it into the water. I didn't see it as any more of a chore than what I would have to do with my Nacra's should I decide to tour them.
    Am I missing something obvious?

    PS- what does that string in the leech of the square top do?



    Edited by Edchris177 on Nov 15, 2013 - 02:26 AM.

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    Hobie 18 Magnum
    Dart 15
    Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
    Nacra 5.7
    Nacra 5.0
    Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
    Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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  • No, you're not missing something. Some of the trailers were not finished like yours (if you have a crank to lower/raise it). Then it would take two strong guys to raise/lower it. Garage door springs tensioned under the trailer frame help a great deal as well as winch systems. Your uprights have quick pins, most have bolts with nuts requiring getting out sockets. These are the things that give a bad rap to trailer sailing a "T". Digging out the mast is a little trickier & requires two people. Otherwise once flat it's just like your Nacra. Pete
  • QuotePS- what does that string in the leech of the square top do?

    Does this cat have an Aussie ring on the main halyard and a hook at the masthead. That line might be used to aid in striking the sail.

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    '82 Super Cat 15
    Hull #315
    Virginia
    Previously owned: '70 H14, '79 H16, '68 Sailmaster 26, '85 H14T
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  • QuoteNo, you're not missing something.

    Good to hear. I spent several hours drooling over that mahogany T you had for sale, but the 4000km, each way, was slightly greater than the distance I wanted to tow it.
    This trailer uses a long handled crank. You stand at the sterns & it turns a screw jack, a one handed operation.
    Two of the T's I inspected did not have any trailer. I thought of using my Tailex & breaking down the T, but for resale, most people no trailer-no deal. I even decided to buy a bare boat, sail the crap out of it for a few years, then part it out if need be. Unfortunately, the woodies I saw needed parting out now.
    I did finally come across a '91, BUT, his bottom line for a bare bones boat, sans trailer, was double what I paid for the '01 Mystere.
    QuoteThat line might be used to aid in striking the sail.

    I'm pretty sure it's for tensioning the leech. It travels up the leech & has a small cleat...can be adjusted underway, though i think maybe one would need to do it while the sail was neutral. I don't have experience with these new fangled square tops, I understand trimming them is a bit different. Probably won't matter, I'll have way more power than I can hang onto.

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    Hobie 18 Magnum
    Dart 15
    Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
    Nacra 5.7
    Nacra 5.0
    Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
    Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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  • Quote I don't have experience with these new fangled square tops, I understand trimming them is a bit different. Probably won't matter, I'll have way more power than I can hang onto


    my new square-top experience has been a lesson on sailing overpowered...everyone on the wire and ease the traveler. it makes light wind days much more fun and modest wind days damn thrilling...think i'll use the old sails on windy days.

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    bill harris
    hattiesburg, mississippi
    prindle 16- "BLUE RIBBON"
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