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  • Renovator: The Hobie 16 has both a luff wire in the jib and a separate forestay. The luff wire is the "running" forestay once the jib is up and rig is taught (then the forestay is loose). The forestay is really only there to hold the mast up when the jib isn't rigged. The plastic hank pictured is attached to the jib luff wire on the screw side, then the other side hooks on the forestay when raising the sail. Only one hank is used.....at the top.....to help keep the jib under control while raising. Bottom line......That hank does nothing when the rig is fully taught, and it would not withstand the loads of a "real" jib hank. All that said, I'm sure suitable hanks are available for you. I've seen one custom set of Smyth H-16 sails in my lifetime, and that jib was rigged with hanks rather than the stock arrangement.

    Hope this helps!

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    Jerome Vaughan
    Hobie 16
    Clinton, Mississippi
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  • So for the 1st time this year, temps were warm enough here in the Mid-West to work outside, so I did some work on the P15, removed the old registration numbers off the bows, Poli-prepped the hulls and managed to finish applying 6 coats of Poliglow to 1 hull. Will finish the other hull tomorrow, and install tramp. Once tramp is installed I can then step the mast and see how the jib fits, will be posting some new pics of the reno pretty soon.
  • I pulled the hub assemblies off my P15's Highlander trailer today to replace the bearings only to find that they are both worn elliptically for whatever reason. But I cannot source a hub that is 5 x 4.5 for a 3/4 inch spindle, seems that no one carries hubs for 3/4" spindles any longer, not even the Highlander Trailer Company. I will have to convert to a 1" spindle, what a schlep, quite the indaba........ shande

    Any suggestions ???
  • the-renovatorI will have to convert to a 1" spindle,
    Any suggestions ???


    I think you could take the hubs to a automotive machine shop for bearing replacement. They should be able to get the old ones out, order a couple sets with matching dimensions, and put the new ones in, for say $10 or 15 a set over the price of the bearings

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  • Not that simple, I took the old bearings and races out, replaced with new, re-installed hubs and the same problem, the hubs are worn irregular and spin but in an elliptical orbit causing the tires to wobble, need new hubs. The bearings fit a 3/4 inch spindle, no problem in obtaining the bearings, but to locate a hub that the bearings fit into, major problem. Ran around for 2 days trying to piece together enough parts to build a new axle, Tyree hardware had the 1 inch spindles, $22 each, also have the hub assembly with bearings $43 each, then run around to locate an axle, Ahrens Steel have 1 1/4inch 80 gauge round that the spindles fit into perfect, $20 for 4' 2" length, now all I need is 1 3/4 inch spring saddles for the 1 1/4 inch round, $10 each, but no one has saddles. The saddles are necessary because they mate the round to the flat and have holes that keep the axle centered on the leaf spring, can order them but will take 2 weeks.

    So I took the axle with hubs to a local trailer builder and he will build me a new 3000 lb axle (cause that's all the stock he has on hand) with 1 inch spindles and hub assemblies (5 x 4.5) for $180, be ready on Monday.

    Not too bad....... icon_biggrin
  • the-renovator
    So I took the axle with hubs to a local trailer builder and he will build me a new 3000 lb axle (cause that's all the stock he has on hand) with 1 inch spindles and hub assemblies (5 x 4.5) for $180, be ready on Monday.

    Not too bad....... icon_biggrin

    Glad you got it sorted. I was going to suggest you replace the whole axle/hub assembly. Good that you had someone local, always the best option.

    I once ordered axle/hub from Champion.

    http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=35147&g2_serialNumber=4

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    Damon Linkous
    1992 Hobie 18
    Memphis, TN

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  • Damon, I remember reading that article, I think a lot of the older trailers were constructed with 3/4 inch spindles, and I know someone is going to face the same problems, so hopefully they can learn from our experiences. But I wanted to catalog the problems one will face when trying to get an axle replaced, it is possible to build your own axle, there are kits available on e-bay but then you have to pay for S&H, so it kinda balances out. But sometimes there are good deals with free S&H

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/T…h=item257b648fb2&vxp=mtr

    You can save a lot of time and money by doing a bit of research and then calling around to get prices, some auto parts stores are also a good source for parts for trailers. But here is a basic how-to guide......

    https://www.northerntool.…loads/manuals/128006.pdf

    And then you need to know someone who can weld........ icon_biggrin
  • Had the P15 out on the water for the first time this season, and man, what a little pocket-rocket, set it up uni-rig, hit the water with 8-10 mph winds, front rolled in and winds jumped to 20-25 mph and that little Prindle took off. Got stuck in irons a few times, had to manually use the sail to back up and get reverse rudder going to swing the hulls around. But I am most impressed with the acceleration of this 15' cat, this inaugural sail just convinced me to continue with my plan for a small jib for this boat to help with tacking.

    I have the rigging for the jib-block pigtails but no swaging tool, West Marine have a small one but I'm not sure if it will swage a stopper-sleeve that will be strong enough to withstand the forces acting on the pig-tail.


    http://content.westmarine.com/images/catalog/large/129817.jpg

    Comments and suggestions?
  • Don't bother buying those little swaging tools. If you have a West Marine, they will have a bench with a much more powerful tool,(still hand powered) that looks like a large set of bolt cutters.
    It will be be right with the aircraft cable, & wire line fittings.
    You use it for free, just pay for the cable, & fittings you use.
    You need to have the measurements of what you are building, & understand how to orient the swages if you are double swaging, but heck, it sounds like you are going to build it anyway.

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  • Been looking to get a swaging tool and came across this. Has anyone used something similar? The price is cheap enough just to consider giving it a shot, and a 12 ton crimp should be more than enough, right?

    http://inlinedesign.us/products/hydraulic-crimping-slash-swaging-tool-kit-12-ton-cable-crimper-dies?gclid=CJr_6ITHu7cCFeh_Qgod7UgAuw

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    Craig
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