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  • Every once in a while someone comes along and asks about homemade beach wheels convinced they would be much cheaper than a set from cat-trax.

    I decided to make 2 pairs for myself to see if indeed it is any cheaper, I will also share costs and processes.

    This project started when I was at the local scrap yard and saw a set of aluminum golf cart wheels that were set aside for sale. I started thinking that these could easily be turned into cat-trax. The next step was to purchase some .5" aluminum plate and some 3" aluminum tube. I paid $25 each for the wheels, $35 for the tube and $40 for the plate that is pictured. The stick of 2" .125 tube for the axle was $140. Smooth tires are $65 each.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps9a12e169.jpg

    Here is a general mock of how the tube fits in the wheels (it doesn't)

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps1734c4f1.jpg

    The first step was to cut some 6" hub flanges for the wheels I did this by loading a big hole saw into the drill press. Mark carefully to get the most out of the plate.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps3260495a.jpg

    You will probably need to make your own heavy duty arbor, none of mine where up to this job. (Your obviously using the larger diameter in this picture)

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps494e0ea5.jpg


    Your left with this circle.


    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps8d0564c1.jpg


    The next step is to open up the flange to allow it to fit over the 3" tube. I did this with another smaller hole saw. I did not take pictures but it is the same idea as above. After this I cleaned up the rough cut from the saw.


    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps254d8f4e.jpg

    Next I marked the flanges and drilled and tapped them. I used .5" wheel bolts.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zpse9ae3ffe.jpg

    I built a simple jig to help hold the flanges evenly on the tube for welding. Use small tacks to get started.


    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zpsb70edf8c.jpg

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zpsa1b8fa15.jpg

    After welding both sides of the plate I chucked the hub back into the lathe to face it up.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zpsb8f4f7a4.jpg
  • At this point I installed some stainless bolts from the back side as studs. I did not want to use bolts with the aluminum threading.

    The next step was to make a collar to contain the bearings. I opened up the remnants from the flange centers. (4 of them in the chuck)


    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps4ea69525.jpg

    Installed in the hub here. (I made them a press fit)

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps8ed41d67.jpg

    The next step was to open up the wheel centers. My lathe wasn't big enough for this, I ended up using a fly cutter on the mill.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps9276d365.jpg

    Next the wheel are bolted onto the hubs.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zps36e04a4f.jpg

    I used .303" rod for the bearings, the whole wheel is assembled here. You can see I decided to weld the collar into the hub to try it out. The wheels are basically complete in this picture. I bought an used cutting board from goodwill to make a UHMW washed for the cotter pin in the axle to wear against. It cost me about $300 per pair without cradles to build these wheels. Cradles cost $50 each used or $110 each new.

    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f149/black92se/null_zpsed8cd914.jpg
  • That's some sophisticated stuff compared to most "homemade beach wheels". jumpclap

    Did the big (is it 21 x 10 ?) tires from Cat Trax mount on your golf cart rims ok?

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  • $5k in a lathe, $5k in a mill, $2K in a tig welder plus all the knowledge to make it work, all for cheap beach wheels? Seriously nice work but way way over most peoples heads. JMHO, Ricardo.

    PS I have two sets, one I got for free when a guy sold the boat and the new owner did not pick up the wheels, the other set came with a 1500 boat. They show up used on craigslist and even on this site. No matter how old they are just put a set of tubes on them and good to go for a long time. It never ceases to amaze me how much people will spend to save money making something that someone else has already perfected. R.

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  • I made a decent set once using the large plastic dock wheels, some conduit and homemade plywood box cradles. After all the time, effort and parts, i would have been better off just buying a commercial one.

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  • very impressive. i thought about doing something similar but settled for this setup.


    http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures/?g2_itemId=82521

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  • DamonLinkous

    Did the big (is it 21 x 10 ?) tires from Cat Trax mount on your golf cart rims ok?


    The rims are 10" rims, the smooth tires fit fine.

    The conclusion was, IMO that cat-trax are a pretty good deal at $500. Hubs are the hard part to any beach wheels. One of the ideas was to find out if these hubs could be made for a reasonable price, would they be worth selling for others to build their own trax around there own axle and rims.
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    Quote$5k in a lathe, $5k in a mill, $2K in a tig welder plus all the knowledge to make it work

    the cost of equipment, fuel, time off the water and "opportunity cost" come into play here.

    Don't get me wrong, they look nice, and if i had the shop/skills... i would make my own parts too.
  • Guys, why all the Killjoy's?
    Carolina started his post by stating the fact that many believe it is cheap/easy to make a set, & rather than promulgate old wives tales & myths, he went ahead to try & prove or disprove the theory.
    In the end he sits with those who think the real McCoy are not overpriced, but what's wrong with applying some skills to arrive at a logical conclusion?
    If no one ever tried to build a better mousetrap, we'd all still own cats.
    You really can't factor the cost of a lathe, TIG etc as he didn't buy them for the project. That is like saying it cost me $500 to swap wheels because I use a compressor, & air wrenches. The guy obviously has the tech tools due to his line of work, or he's a hobby machinist. His time is free, as it's a hobby project.
    I don't have the skills or the tools, so I had to build a sewer pipe/boatlift wheeled contraption, borrowing heavily from Cat Sailor Mike..
    I congratulate him for what he built, he has some pretty cool mag wheels



    Edited by Edchris177 on Jul 01, 2013 - 03:31 PM.

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  • I was careful in my response not be negative, just trying to look at the whole picture.

    QuoteGuys, why all the Killjoy's?
  • Edchris177If no one ever tried to build a better mousetrap, we'd all still own cats.


    Lost me for a second there! icon_smile

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  • Now that's funny! And we all still do own cats!
  • Was fascinated with Carolinacatamarans beach wheel build. I faced a similar situation after selling my NACRA 5.0 and picking up an awesome deal on a '06 Hobie Wave. (Time to teach the grandkids how to sail) I didn't like the fact that my fullsize beach wheels would rub the inside of the Wave hulls and started to gather pieces to build a scaled down version. This is what I ended up with:http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103163&g2_serialNumber=3The tube is an Alcoa 6061, 2.25ODx .083 wall I picked up years ago for about 30 bucks (I think they are around 80 bucks now so maybe a piece of conduit would work). The wheels are Fast Trekker 22x11-10 ATV tires on aluminum rims with 3/8 four hole bolt holes. Got them from a local motorhead for 25 bucks. The flange is a schedule 80- 2" socket flange @ $4.95 each. There is a lip on the inside for a stop that I carved flush with the sidewall. The "lug" bolts are 3/8" plastic toilet seat holdown bolts. The holes in the flange are larger than the wheel holes but the rounded nuts center the flange perfectly. The white washers holding the flange in place are cut out of plastic cutting board materiel.http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103166&g2_serialNumber=3 Construction was sraightforward with careful attention paid to wheel spacinghttp://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103175&g2_serialNumber=3 Early indications are....they work great! Left the end of the tubes open so the tiedown straps are just hooked into the bolts mounting the 2x6 "cradles" and really secures the boat.http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103178&g2_serialNumber=3 Last picture shows the comparison between the two sets of beach wheels.http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103169&g2_serialNumber=3 I think that if a guy is willing to do a little scrounging he can build a decent pair of wheels on the cheap. The only drawback is that they weigh 15lbs. more than the storebought but for the 300 bucks difference in price it's not an issue, besides I need the exercise! You can see clearer pictures on my personal album.
  • Nice one, I'm not clear how the white washers are staying in place. Is there a large cotter pin through the axle?

    I don't know anything about plumbing parts, does a 2 inch Schedule 80 socket flange have a 2.25 inch hole that becomes the wheel bearing in your design?

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  • A lot of weight could be saved smooth tires could be found. Maybe put your ATV treaded tires on a lathe and smooth them down. icon_biggrin Wonder how much all that tread weighs.

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  • I just cut my 8' beach wheel tube in half, inserted a pipe into each half, then drilled holes for 8', 8.5' and 10' cats. Pete
  • Nacraman,

    I like the idea. I some some concernes about the pipe flange not offering a ton of support for holding the wheel strait up and down. How much play is in the system now? Do you have a way to lubricate the flange?
  • QuoteNice one, I'm not clear how the white washers are staying in place. Is there a large cotter pin through the axle?

    I don't know anything about plumbing parts, does a 2 inch Schedule 80 socket flange have a 2.25 inch hole that becomes the wheel bearing in your design?
    Hope this picture will clarify how the the wheel/flange/axle is put together. The axle is 2.25 OD but the hole in the flange is roughly 2- 3/8" so it allows the flange to rotate freely. The plastic washers are held in place by two stainless screws. You can see the flange holes are larger but the rounded nuts will center flange to wheel.http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103187&g2_serialNumber=3
    QuoteI just cut my 8' beach wheel tube in half, inserted a pipe into each half, then drilled holes for 8', 8.5' and 10' cats. Pete
    Pete, I thought of that too, but taking a hacksaw to a pair of $400.00+ beach wheels would make my feet sweat! This set will stay permanantly with the Wave, so if I'm off somewhere with the 5.7 one of the kids can still use it and have a set of wheels. Besides I was just curious to see if I could do it.
    Quotesome concernes about the pipe flange not offering a ton of support for holding the wheel strait up and down. How much play is in the system now? Do you have a way to lubricate the flange?
    I think, after using it that there would be more concern with the plastic bolts shearing off than the flange breaking. If that happens I would just rotate the flange a quarter turn, drill new holes and use stainless bolts. There is some play, but not much more "wobble" than the storebought. Getting the plastic washers tight to the flange helps. When there is weight on, the wheels stand straight.http://www.thebeachcats.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103190&g2_serialNumber=3 I just let water be the lubricant because I felt greasing it would attract sand and wear it faster.
  • pbegleI just cut my 8' beach wheel tube in half, inserted a pipe into each half, then drilled holes for 8', 8.5' and 10' cats. Pete



    We don't bother with the bolts, just let the tube float. This way we can launch three different width boats with the same wheels one after the other.

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  • nacraman57 Hope this picture will clarify how the the wheel/flange/axle is put together.

    OK, cool. I like that you did so much with off the shelf parts, even the white plastic chopping block washers could be made by anyone with a jig saw.

    But what would the total price really be assuming you need to buy everything at retail prices.

    I've never found the smooth 21x12x8 tires used on the real Cat Trax for sale anywhere. Closest I've found were these 22x11x8 "turf saver" with light tread available from Walmart for $68.
    http://www.walmart.com/ip…and-Garden-Tire/23597334

    What about the aluminum rim? And the aluminum axel?

    Can anyone come up with a complete parts recipe with links to purchase all the items needed?

    Florida Sailcraft sells the actual Cat Trax tires for $55 plus quite a bit of shipping, or the tire/rim assembly for $129 which might be the best deal to be found.

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