I recently got a Tasar. It is a complex boat that really only works with 2. I was thinking I would want to race, but really I would rather go out with friends and just have a good time. So with that in mind I started looking at other options.
I live in Salem, OR and will eventually move to near Corvallis so I will mainly be sailing at either Ferne Ridge, a reasonably sized lake or yaquina bay. A bay on the Oregon coast.
The things I would like in a boat, in order of importance:
1. Trailerable. Without this, it is a no go.
2. I would like it to be able to accommodate 4 adults.
3. I would like to keep the cost to ~$4k or less
4. Reasonably quick to rig. (my Tasar takes about 30 minutes to set up and about 45 to get packed up which is right on the upper end of what is acceptable)
5. It would be nice if it was not too wet when sailing so the season could be extended a bit
6. I would like to, on occasion, be able to take it out solo and be able to right it (using a righting bag or whatever would be fine) I am pretty much a stick at 135
Thoughts? It does not have to be a cat, but it seems like, for the social aspect, a cat would be nice.
I was looking at Getaways, but they tend to be about $1k more than I want to spend and hard to come by.
Want a more social boat. Thoughts?
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Posted: Aug 17, 2013 - 09:35 PM
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 05:07 AM
Hobie 18 with wings.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 09:33 AM
Look at a Catalina 22 or a San Juan 23. Both have a usable cabin and room for 4 in the cockpit. They can be set up single handed and do not weigh too much as far as monos go anyway. Plenty of room for a cooler and even a portable grill. The ladies in your group will love the fact that the boat has a porta-potty. You maybe not so much!! The Capri 22 I just bought would be another option other than the Fin Keel makes it a pain to launch - it is a lot faster than the other two boats, has a smaller cabin and more room in the cockpit. What ever you do, if you buy a mono hull, go to the US Sailing site and look at the DPN numbers of the boat you are looking at. DO NOT buy any boat with a rating over 98
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 11:31 AM
If you like a Getaway, you could check out a GCat 5.7. The front tramp makes it very social. Can hold 4 or 5 adults and also singlehands well. Easy to rig and is a dry ride as far as beachcats go. Probably more likely to find a Hobie 18, which is also a good choice. Both will fit your price range with some left mods and upgrades. -
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 02:34 PM
A swing keel mono would be ideal except that I have a Honda element with a towing capacity of 1500. So I am out of luck there. I will look around to see if I can find any g-cats.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 06:06 PM
I wouldn't suggest anything without wings if you want 4 adults on a beach cat
I wouldn't suggest a g-cat for 4 (or 3) adults - the front tramp is for gear and maybe a kid (with good air) , and it is only 8' wide -
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 07:06 PM
Jump on a Hobie 21SE and find out why it is so comfortable. Of course you haul it wide to ease the setup time....
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 08:33 PM
Small World, I live in Turner, about 5 miles outside of Salem. I've sailed Fern Ridge for years and have found it to be one of the best lakes in Oregon For sailing due to it's steady winds and fairly consistent evening blows.
The down sides:
1:It's not overly windy most of the time, so if you plan to make a day of it, don't expect to spend much time on the wire.
2: It's not cat friendly for launching, being surrounded by a concrete "lip" around the waters edge next to the Richardson and Orchard Point Marinas.
The Eugene Yacht club has facilities that look like they could accommodate a beach style launch, but membership would probably be in order if your looking to use their shoreline more than a couple of times.
I've also seen cats along the waters edge further down the western shore that appear to be mast up storage behind an RV park.
Bear in mind, any cat that will accommodate 4 adults with a trailer included will stretch or exceed your budget and will require more rigging time than you want. The getaway being about the only exception.
Bottom line is, if you really want to sail a catamaran in Oregon, then your going to have to rig it on the trailer and get used to putting it in at a regular boat ramp. Totally do-able, with some planning and practice and with crew available, not overly stressful. However, the best bet for your requirements above would be a Catalina 22 or similar as suggested above. Easy to find in Oregon, fun to sail, and relatively cheap with a trailer. Lots of club events and class races at Fern Ridge and in Portland and Seattle as well. Just have a friend haul it for you and call it price of admission for all the good times you'll have on the water.
Hope to see you out on the water soon!
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Posted: Aug 18, 2013 - 08:53 PM
+3 for the Catalina 22
You've got too much going against you.
1) less than 30 min to rig from trailer to water
2) 4 adults even if they are your size
3) Solo right even with a bag at 135#
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Posted: Aug 19, 2013 - 11:30 AM
Maybe a Flying Scot? Stable, Not to heavy for trailering. Easy to mount a small motor for launch. Large cockpit. Easy to sail. -
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Posted: Aug 19, 2013 - 12:07 PM
Scott's are good boats. I bought one when i first went into college for $500. They weight 800lbs+ trailer. I towed it around with my 1995 explorer. Ended up killing my tranny on a hill.
Mine had an outboard mount. They cant sink. You are going to have to be a beast to get the mast up solo. (an under 65yr old job). one could easily make a gin pole for them.
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Posted: Aug 19, 2013 - 01:02 PM
I just came across a good deal on an older Getaway with wings that is in my price range. From my previous reading it seems like it would be a good fit but so far I had not been able to find any in my price range.
Would I be able to fit 4 on one with wings? My partner and I are both -
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Posted: Aug 19, 2013 - 05:11 PM
good/great fun and family boat...
rotomold (like a kayak) so not the fastest, a bit heavy, and a challenge to repair\ but very durable.
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Posted: Aug 19, 2013 - 06:29 PM
I will find out when he sends pictures. :) It's old, 2002, so I imagine there could be all sorts of issues. Just need to figure out if it is normal wear and tear or if things are used/damaged beyond reasonable repair. -
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Posted: Aug 20, 2013 - 07:20 AM
If its been sitting in the sun better figure on a new tramp and new sails. Plus add the cost of new standing rigging. -
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Posted: Aug 20, 2013 - 07:34 AM
ANY holes / rips / damage to the rotomold should be close to a deal breaker
that stuff is really hard to work on - or darn near impossible from what i have heard
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Posted: Aug 20, 2013 - 09:43 AM
If you want a big cat for four, I've got a Supecat 20 listed here, in you budget. A bit more rigging time, and you shouldn't take it out in big wind with that many folk aboard, but probably the fastest of what's been suggested here. And I'm moderately close to you, and headed south at the end of Sept.
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Posted: Aug 20, 2013 - 11:38 AM
Just depends how it's been used. Also 2002 is a lot newer than most of our boats!
The boat is up North right? So short sailing season and it would matter how it's been stored during the winters. As MN3 said, inspect the hulls, breaks/cracks in the hulls basically can not be repaired because of molecular changes in the plastic during the rotomolding process.
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Posted: Aug 21, 2013 - 01:46 PM
The Getaway is an awesome boat. I've had many Hobies and the Getaway is by far my favorite. I've had two families on it (4 adults and 5 kids) and we had tons of fun. My boat is normally carrying my whole family of 6.
The other weekend we went out to watch a regatta in 20+ mph winds. Every boat in the race flipped but I never came close.
As far as speed goes I've never topped 18 mph and it flying a hull on the Getaway is just as fun as a H16. It's comfy, fun and has seats for everyone.
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