Now that weather is warm there will be more boats around. I'm trying to minimize the amount of tasks dealing with this boat. So far there's the righting pole, cooler bag lashed to the tramp. Do you really need a paddle? How far can you paddle anyway. I don't expect to be sailing when it is calm, although calm could come when it is least expected. Can I leave the paddle at home?
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Posted: May 23, 2015 - 06:28 PM
Yes you need a paddle. Preferably 2. Paddling Is surprisingly effective, cats have little draft and resistance so you can make decent progress just sitting on the front beam paddling. Take it from a person who has been stranded a few times when the wind suddenly quit in him, you will be happy you have it. Just get a couple of cheap extending paddles and lash them to the tramp lacing (even underneath the tramp nice and tight) and forget them.
http://www.murrays.com/01-1303.html
https://www.menards.com/main/mobile/tools-hardware/automotive-marine-hardware/boat-covers-accessories/paddle-boat-hook-telescoping/p-1761453-c-12524.htm
http://m.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Telescoping-Mini-Paddle/product/52474/
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Posted: May 24, 2015 - 05:01 AM
~~~ A PADDLE,,, A PADDLE he says... A good sailor shouldn't need a paddle. Drop & roll up your sails, push em to the side, angle your rudders at 45 degree, and go ''back & forth'' You''ll make it. I did... 3 miles. If you have to change your heading,, ''slowly'' move your rudder to one ''of'' the sides, then ''quickly'' pull or push your ''tiller bar'' for the direction you have to go and 'hold it' and let it turn some. You might have to do it again.
Theres a name for this, I think it's called SKEGGIN or something like that
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Posted: May 24, 2015 - 09:25 AM
yes carry a paddle.
if a storm cloud pops up close to you it can suck up all the energy (wind) for hours
i added some bungie to the front hull lips on my h18 and stored my paddle up there on the bow - was never in the way, was always available
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Posted: May 25, 2015 - 12:39 PM
Sculling, that's what it's called, is ok but it eats up your steering gear. I carry a paddle cause I don't want to be up the creek without one.
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Posted: May 25, 2015 - 02:16 PM
I toyed with the idea of a righting pole/ sculing oar pole but went with fiberglass antennae pole instead. So with paddle I have 2 items to attach to boat, the reason I asked if paddle was needed. I do think sculing oar plus some type of oarlock could serve a dual purpose. The cost of long wooden oars are keeping me from doing that option.
I've rigged the boat to towing, so if I'm too far afield when needing a paddle I could always call for possible tow.
So I'll keep towing the paddle...
Edited by goodsailing on May 25, 2015 - 02:19 PM.
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Posted: May 25, 2015 - 02:24 PM
Always carry a paddle. You just never know when you'll need it. Get a telescoping one if you want. The most my crew and I have paddled is 11 nm, miserable, but it got us to the wind!
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Posted: May 26, 2015 - 06:55 PM
very inexpensive telescoping paddle at walmart, they carry other boating supplies usually for much less than west marine eg plugs. now a moment to vent. you must carry/wear life vests, i wear a water ski belt and keep an xtra vest on board besides one on every sailor on board. xtra vest can be used to tie to top of mast to prevent turtle when righting or to throw to mate overboard when i brought this up approx 2 yrs ago there were no comments, however recent news reports indicate the loss of 4 mono hull sailors who neglected to wear life jackets a few weeks ago. i lost a mast over 5 miles offshore in the atlantic the paddle helped me as did the currents, the vest helped save the mast-kept it afloat til i pulled it on board -
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Posted: May 26, 2015 - 08:31 PM
We know to wear pfd's. But you paddled 5 miles in the open ocean with the mast on the deck. Holly Mackerel. You're my hero....
I tie an inner tube to the mast top for now not knowing if my mast will sink or not. It has been sealed.
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Posted: May 26, 2015 - 08:43 PM
i dont care for any walmart boating products - they suck
also the collapsible paddle will eventually fail, i recommend a solid one
I have paddled 3 miles with no wind.. not fun but also not a big deal
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Posted: May 26, 2015 - 10:04 PM
Same here in Canada, BUT, those Jurassic Park water ski belts do not constitute a PFD. They have been illegal here for over 30 yrs.
The make finding a body easier, but if you were to crack your noggin in a pitchpole they only ensure that they kkep your butt up, & your head underwater.
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 10:37 AM
+1
Sculling oar/ righting pole I think is the ticket for this type of boat provided you could find a way to attach the oarlock to the rear xbeam without interfearing with the traveler car. This way you'd have a stick for two purposes. Hmmmm You could also use the boat as fishing platform for non windy days without the mast.
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 07:50 PM
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Posted: May 28, 2015 - 01:33 AM
I have my sailmaker sew a pocket (10" wide by 6") to the bottom of the tramp, opening facing fwd, that I can slip the blade of the paddle into. It's located back from the front beam the length of the paddle, close to the port hull, so the head of the paddle protrudes forward of the beam about 2", just enough to wrap a bungie around, to secure it in the V formed by the beam and dolphin striker strap/rod, just inboard of the port hull.
Completely out of the way, yet quickly deployed when needed in a hurry, by whipping off the bungie, and sliding it forward. Saved my ass a few times.......
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Posted: May 28, 2015 - 09:05 AM
you don't sail with a gin pole on board, you can carry a righting bag (in a pocket on the tramp), you don't have a spinnaker .... your making things more complicated than just about any other cat sailor i have ever met
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Posted: May 28, 2015 - 09:13 AM
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Posted: May 28, 2015 - 09:14 AM
I keep a full size paddle with the blade tucked into the rear beam
accessible to me without moving at all
very helpful when stuck in the lea of an island or if i have miss-judged my landing on a beach by a few inches and need a little more propulsion to land
I have a collapsible in a hatch for my crew (if i have any) or another skipper if needed
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Posted: May 28, 2015 - 10:18 AM
When I raced lasers in the 70s I and a number of the other sailors carried the following with a tether on it in the event of a capsize
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