What cat is this? Hobie Europe's version of 21 or custom?

car_guy

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Posted: Nov 20, 2015 - 07:19 AM

Found on a german forum, used google translate but didn't get an good info. I love the wings, looks like they could work on an inter 20 or other late model cats...

link to webpage
https://www.segeln-forum.…-wandern-bitte-um-hilfe/
Dogboy

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Posted: Nov 20, 2015 - 02:18 PM

Not sure what that one is. Hobie Europe does a lot of things that aren't done in the US. Looks like they used modified H21 hulls with straight Tiger style crossbars and dagger boards instead of centerboards.

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NeubaurRL

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Posted: Nov 21, 2015 - 04:15 PM

It is a hobie europe 21 formula. A couple YouTube videos on one in Germany.

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Posted: Nov 22, 2015 - 10:10 AM

I will have quick go at translating,

Guy that started the post is looking for a cat
- which can carry 4 adults
- carry 300 kilogram of stuf
- is suitable for long-time sailing
- is child-friendly ( a net behind the rear beam?)
- the possibility to store waterproof bins on the tramp
- has to sleep 2 on the tramp
- a reefing main
- storage in the hulls
- has to go like stink when not packed and reefed
- hulls has to be strong and not easy to break

The replier who posted the Hobie 21 photo said;
- at 3 Bf you need to sail it with 3 adults already
- but thinks it will fit the posters needs
- he thinks at 4-5 Bf its a real challenge to take the kids
without tossing them around.
- fine cat, but with that load, width and length , hard to handle
- he suggests the old-style H 20 formula, not the Fox
- also the C-cat is suggested
- if you can sail a Hobie, you can sail all cats
- Suggests a T , N 5.7 N 6.0 , Inter 20 or Dart 20
- finishes with the remark that the demands are hard or even
not to be found in one cat

The cat in the picture probably is a H 21 European version
4 meters wide ( including wings ) 6.5 meters long
Daggerboards instead of centerboards
They were build at the Hobie factory near Toulon, France
were they made some different models.

Here's a link to a youtube film NeubaurRL mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uw8CQOZTsI

Regards, André

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