So the Tornado is apart for the winter. It is too big for garage and basement. It will fit in the living room but I was unable to convince the Mrs of that plan. I live in an area that get snow and ice, often that lasts. Any suggestions as to best way to store the hulls?
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Posted: Oct 03, 2016 - 07:21 PM
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Posted: Oct 03, 2016 - 07:34 PM
Leave the plugs/hatches in so critters can't gain a home. Maybe leave the plugs loose.
Flip the hulls upside down & set them on two pieces of 4x4. Place the 4x4's so they nest where the beams would go. Depending on the ground where you are storing, you might need an extra block under the 4x4 to keep the decks clear of the ground.
That will shed snow/ice/rain. This way they will fit under a deck, & be out of the sun. You might want to cover with a cheap tarp if you are on the sunny side of house, or have "dirty" trees,
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Posted: Oct 03, 2016 - 07:41 PM
Now that it is apart, will it fit inside the house? I would want some sort of rack system that I could store the hulls on. I'm a little OCD so, I would bubble wrap everything to keep it all from being banged up when moving around. Maybe hang the hulls from the garage ceiling or on a wall? You could always hang the hulls on the living room walls as decoration, tell the wife you're doing a summer theme!!!! Lol.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 05:17 AM
Good idea to support at cross beam. I may tape up the board slots or put in a filler so nothing gets in the board wells.ice in there would be bad.
I found the hulls will fit cross ways in the garage if suspended at the roof. It would be above the hoods of the two cars. It would mean ducking to get to the car for 7 months. Not ideal for a 6 5 dude.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 08:32 AM
I suspended 2 Sea Kayaks from the ceiling at my Western place. It only has 8' ceilings, but the kayaks are not deep, & they are Kevlar, light.
Harken makes a system with small blocks, but I thought it was too expensive for what you got. The nice feature was the system had an automatic lock, if you let go of the line, (or kids undid it out of curiosity),the boat doesn't come crashing down.
I secured a loop of strap at one end, to slide the bow into. The stern loop was very loose, & adjustable. One person could lift the bow into the first loop, then lift the stern & slide the second over, then snug it up. It would be harder with a heavier 20' hull. Plus, if angled it might be a PITA to get it over the garage door rails.
When I first got the 5.7, (19') I considered slinging it from the ceiling, as the lakehouse house has 12' ceilings, & a 24x20 garage. It turned out to be way easier to stack them on a rack against one wall. I only stored it inside once, to much work to disassemble, then reassemble, though I probably would if the boat was painted vs gelcote.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 12:44 PM
This, but I wouldn't go with a cheap tarp... you'll find yourself replacing it in January.... When I lived in the Northeast I would take the mast and tramp off and store them in the basement.... and cover the boat with a truckers tarp... one that was made with a rubberized fabric with tent stakes to hold it down... the tarp was big enough to cover the boat and trailer.. It wasn't cheap... but, then again my brother still has it and uses is to cover up his firewood stack every year.... That thing is well over 20 years old... Oh! One of the neighborhood cats decided to set up shop in there too.... no critters!!!
Edited by JohnES on Oct 04, 2016 - 12:44 PM.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 01:22 PM
I disassemble, and place the hulls upside down on the trailer using wood supports as described by Ed, and cover with a tarp. In Spring the hulls are dry and clean, and the boat is easily reassembled. I leave the mast in the elements on the trailer. I have no idea how I would move a 30 foot mast indoors.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 03:32 PM
Good discussion, here are a couple of ideas from past talks about winter storage.
Building a temporary A-Frame to prevent snow build-up
http://www.thebeachcats.c…pictures?g2_itemId=60627
Wall mounting
Why this is important for snow areas.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 05:30 PM
What exactly happened to the hull in that last pic?
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 11:25 PM
That was the result of snow weight build up from leaving the boat on the trailer in winter. The next year the owner built an a-frame to shed the snow.
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Posted: Oct 04, 2016 - 11:52 PM
You are quite correct John, the cheapos don't last in the sun. I was thinking just from dirty trees, we have chestnuts & oaks here.
We sit/hang the Nacra 5.0 & 5.7 from pieces of green sewer pipe mounted near the ceiling. The 5.0 goes right through a basement window. The 5.7 spreaders are wider, either dump the diamond tension & pop one side of the spreader, or angle the mast to get one side through the window, then swing mast the other way to get the other side through, sort of like how you get a sofa through the door. Here is the 5.7 mast.
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures?g2_itemId=125680
I think that is Popeyze photo, he has an album here with that solution. If I store a Nacra with the tramp, I place a 2x4 fore/aft across the beams,(cut a curve into the end so they sit nicely on the round Nacra beams), & two sheets of plywood, with a crown in the centre to shed snow/water/ice,like so;
http://www.thebeachcats.c…ictures?g2_itemId=125684
It's quite a production, with 5 lifts. The 2 large Stinkpot lifts go on the patio, the 2 Cat lift nestle inside, then the 5.0 & 5.7 sit on them. the seadoo lift gts thrown wherever, & the antique Seadoo sits on a wheeled dolly I made,in the garage, between a Stinkpot, & a summer Car.
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Edited by Edchris177 on Oct 05, 2016 - 12:44 AM.
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Posted: Oct 11, 2016 - 06:47 PM
~~~ Yeah, thats my rollers havin sex with my hull. I'am not sure what year it was but when it started snowing it didn't slow down for about a week or more and it came down heavy. By then it was kinda late so I let it go. Guess I paid for it. What I do now is take the boat off the trl and cover it like Edchris does... A friend of mine has a Hobie 18 SX and left his on the trl. The weight of the snow broke both of his springs on his trl. He paid alot to get new ones. So if ya live in snow country... unload yer boat ~~~~~
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Posted: Oct 12, 2016 - 11:10 AM
Isn't it ironic how the efforts that some folks take to protect their boats may actually cause more damage than doing nothing...
This year my H17 will be disassembled and stored in the garage. The 18's have been disassembled and the hulls flipped upside down and stored on a rack outside with lots of padding between the decks and the rack. A tarp will be placed over the hulls. Part of the reason for going this route is because my boats are stored under walnut trees which dump a couple hundred golf-ball sized walnuts around my boats this time of year, so having the hulls flipped over protects them from dents.
I think if you really wanted to do the minimal amount of winterizing, the best thing to do would be to just remove the tramp, pull the drain plugs, and lift the trailer tongue up so any water that gets in drains. Forget about using a tarp since they can do more damaging than protecting when they load up with snow or water. Maybe just put a fresh coat of wax on the hulls before putting them away.
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Posted: Oct 12, 2016 - 07:00 PM
Man, I am glad I live in the south!!!! I am going to try to sail at least once a month, not really having to store the boat but she does stay covered when not in use. If it looks like I won't be using her for a few months, I plan on taking her off the trailer and sitting her on some large Styrofoam blocks, covered up of course, just seemed better than having her sit in the grass.
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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 - 06:26 AM
Why?
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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 - 09:04 AM
Why? Just to take the opportunity to do a little cleaning, and detailing on the trailer and I'd like to add some extra lights to the trailer. I also just figured the boat would be better resting on soft Styrofoam instead of the rubber rollers and bow supports if stored for a long period of time.
Edited by martyr on Oct 13, 2016 - 09:21 AM.
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Posted: Oct 13, 2016 - 01:15 PM
Should be a non-issue on a H16. It should be fully capable of sitting on the trailer indefinitely, as long as it's properly supported. If it isn't properly supported, it doesn't matter if it's sitting there for ten years or a day. But H16's are pretty darn robust - supporting the hulls on a trailer with round rubber rollers is standard practice. Just make sure you don't strap it down too hard and it will be fine.
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Posted: Oct 14, 2016 - 09:30 AM
Okay, thanks. The trailer that my boat sits on is in excellent condition. The boat sits upon rubber rollers at the stern and "v" shaped rubber cradle things at the bow, or close to the bow anyway. I guess I was over thinking things, I tend to do that.
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