Nacra 16
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Posted: May 12, 2017 - 04:46 PM
Can anybody advise me if there is a transport service to ship a nacra 16 on a trailer t from Oklahoma to New Jersey? I am looking into buying a Nacra 16 and ship it to NJ -
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Posted: May 12, 2017 - 10:32 PM
I have used uship.com to move trailers around with great success. Pictures help and if you aren't in a great hurry it can be pretty reasonable.
Edited by schoen.steve on May 12, 2017 - 11:32 PM.
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Steve
Nacra Inter 20
Okemos Michigan
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Posted: May 15, 2017 - 09:15 AM
I have used uship with good luck as well. I would caution you on the Nacra 16, it may just be the teams but the boats haven't proven competitive in larger F16 events. If I did it I would go for a new boat with carbon mast and lighter crossbeams. -
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Posted: May 15, 2017 - 04:46 PM
Sam, the Nacra F16 has done well at a handful of European events, when you compare to the U.S. class which is littered with carbon boats, carbon masts and tons of other stuff that makes the boats lighter then sure it would be a bit tough. Maybe a reason why they just raised the minimum weight of the boat for the class rules.
Nacra did improve the mast with a lighter MKII mast a few years ago and Gunnar Larsen came over and got third at U.S. Nationals in a light air event to two really light youth teams in first and second. The boat is definitely not a light air specialist but it is a weapon in breeze.
The boat in question in Oklahoma has a carbon mast and the MKII mast.
I remember you feeling the Nacra 15 mast and being impressed, so maybe you should think about that before making comments like that ;)
I've done a ton of shipping on UShip.
Spell out everything in the description in detail.
Insurance requirements (I specify that it's on them and they must carry enough to cover boat)
What happens in event of damage (I cover one spare tire and then the rest if on them, maybe more spares if it's a really long drive, be reasonable)
Payment method (I reccomend only Uship payments)
Dates (specifically! I can't tell you how many times I've listed them and still get questions).
Check their ratings and reviews. If they don't have a lot of reviews stay away.
Look for the safewatch emblem and if they are a DOT legal driver.
If you go with a non-dot legal driver it can be fine, just make sure they have good reviews and you can track them and aren't paying until the end.
Make sure they are only transporting your trailer and will be directly en route. I had one driver take my load way off route and then break down.
Edited by nacrasailing on May 15, 2017 - 04:47 PM. -
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Posted: May 15, 2017 - 04:59 PM
Dave Farmer posted in earlier communications a Name Nathan Green who transports on his flat bed truck anybody knows him? I sent two messages to Dave but no reply -
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Posted: May 15, 2017 - 05:16 PM
I was unaware of Gunnar's performance nor those of the Nacra in European F16 events. There wasn't a Nacra F16 on the podium at last years worlds; actually the first one was ranked 15th at 2016 F16 Worlds. Again, it is very likely the crew making the biggest difference. I have little doubt the hull shape can perform in a variety of conditions, if built to class legal minimum weight. I would hesitate to call the U.S class "littered" with carbon boats and carbon masts; I only know of a handful of all carbon F16's built and many sail Goodall Vipers, which are production fiberglass boats with aluminum rigs and are well over the initial class legal minimum weight (at 125kg per the new legal minimum weight, that ought to be fun to manage...). The biggest advantage Nacra have with there design are the ability to run C-boards, which I am lead to understand are class legal in the F16f class.
My opinion on high minimum weights is they serve to support production builders and associated techniques and not the sailors necessarily, though they can bring upfront cost down slightly (this fact is often deliberately mis-marketed, buyer beware). I would still rather be on an all carbon 5 year old F16 than a new fiberglass F16 built by any of the builders. The reason is rather simple and well known in many dinghy classes, stiffer, well built boats last longer and carry higher resale value. Then again, I would rather not sail a 16' boat if I have the option of a 18' or 20' boat.
I used Nathan Green via uShip to get my F18 from LA to Annapolis. I wouldn't hesitate to use him again, very professional and got the boat east in one piece. PM or email me for his contact information. He used my trailer when dead heading home from LA which was very economical.
Edited by samc99us on May 15, 2017 - 05:40 PM. -
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Posted: May 15, 2017 - 05:19 PM
Can I have nathan's phone number please -
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Posted: May 15, 2017 - 05:59 PM
Curved boards aren't legal in the F16 Class. Unless they've made a change very recently.
We sell them and our boats take both straight or curved, the benefits of curved boards are definitely worthwhile for recreationally sailing and having fun with more comfort downwind. -
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Posted: May 16, 2017 - 10:42 AM
I think there was some confusion on this earlier in the year as reports came out that the F16 was going foiling etc. The real story is here: http://www.formula16.net/2016/12/letter-from-the-management/
Regardless, I'm glad Nacra have mostly future-proofed their newer boats. Hopefully that happens soon on some of the other line!
