I'm replacing the jib sheets on a 5.2. Thought I might eliminate them to make the rigging less complicated. Are they necessary to properly adjust the jib under sail?
--
2016 Hobie Getaway
1978 Nacra 5.2
1978 Hobie 16 (back in the day)
--
What's the point of the jib pigtail leads on the 5.2?
-
- Rank: Lubber
- Registered: Nov 06, 2016
- Last visit: Feb 01, 2018
- Posts: 43
-
- Rank: Chief
- Registered: Nov 26, 2009
- Last visit: Aug 10, 2024
- Posts: 2531
Strictly speaking, they are not necessary at all. Howeever, for every foot of pigtail, you save four feet of sheet.
You basically have 4 lines running to/from the jib clew. If you use an 18" pigtail on each jib block, you can shorten your jib sheet by six feet.
Usually the pigtail is a much thinner/lighter line, so in very light winds it doesn't pull the sail down as much.
There is a limit to how long you can make the pigtail, to long & the block will hit your ratcheting cleat before you get the sail trimmed.
--
Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
-- -
- Rank: Chief
- Registered: Jun 24, 2009
- Last visit: Jun 15, 2023
- Posts: 1555
I find that if I don't have at least a short pigtail the 2 blocks's tend to interfere with each other. I just use about a foot for each.
--
Dave Bonin
1981 Nacra 5.2 "Lucile"
1986 Nacra 5.7 "Belle"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
-- -
- Rank: Mate
- Registered: Apr 22, 2015
- Last visit: May 21, 2023
- Posts: 484
Ditto Wolfman's comment above on the why.
I run a Nacra 5.0 which uses the same jib as the 5.2. In getting to know the 5.0 over the last two years I found that a 2:1 jib sheet system is just not necessary even in a blow. I run mine 1:1 all the time with the advantage Wolfman pointed out of less line length (to have to go through when you tack/jibe), weight etc.. I use New England 5/16" Sta-Set for my sheet and am very happy with it, crew loves it too.
--
Hobie 16 (3 formerly)
MacGregor 25 (formerly)
Chrysler Dagger 14 (formerly)
NACRA 5.0 (currently)
High Point, NC
-- -
- Rank: Chief
- Registered: Apr 19, 2011
- Last visit: Nov 20, 2024
- Posts: 1460
You'd be hard-pressed to find a jib system on a beach cat that wouldn't benefit from pigtail leads, as long as they do not two-block with your Barber Hauler.
--
Sheet In!
Bob
_/)_____/)_/)____/)____/)_____/)/)__________/)__
Prindle 18-2 #244 "Wakizashi"
Prindle 16 #3690 "Pegasus" Sold (sigh)
AZ Multihull Fleet 42 member
(Way) Past Commodore of Prindle Fleet 14
Arizona, USA
-- -
- Rank: Lubber
- Registered: Nov 06, 2016
- Last visit: Feb 01, 2018
- Posts: 43
I like the Idea of a 1:1 jib system. I have issues with the pigtale blocks hanging up on the bungies that are supposed to keep them clear of the mast. do u have any pics of ur jib system?
--
2016 Hobie Getaway
1978 Nacra 5.2
1978 Hobie 16 (back in the day)
-- -
- Rank: Master Chief
- Registered: Jun 20, 2006
- Last visit: May 22, 2024
- Posts: 7089
Most catamars have an overlapping jib (goes past the mast). jib blocks can get hung up in spreaders and other items on the mast - pig tails help the sail get "through" the mast area without getting hung up (usually)
I'd guess your pigtail is too long if this is happening
I was told long ago that we use this 2:1 system not for the mechanical advantage but for another reason: i can't for the life of me think what that reason is at the moment