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Doh - Foiled again!

MN3

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Posted: Sep 12, 2017 - 11:20 AM

Foils on a laser !!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BY8KggwDyp7/
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Posted: Sep 12, 2017 - 04:30 PM

Foiling lasers are like bull riding rodeos, if you get an 8 second ride, you will be a world champion!

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Posted: Sep 13, 2017 - 12:09 AM

Maybe this is what we will be seeing in NZ for the next Americas Cup. Appears that NZ is going to slow way down and go to monohulls. Not what I was thinking when I was rooting for them to win.

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Posted: Sep 13, 2017 - 08:58 AM

Yeah, going back to monohulls after racing monster foiling cats will be like going from a Ferrari to Pinto!!!!

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MN3

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Posted: Sep 13, 2017 - 09:39 AM

i am not upset at all - we have just witnessed and benefited from the most ground breaking advances in the sport since the invention of the sail

i am a multi huller - 100%
but foiling monos at this level are cool as dry ice

these are fast fast fast boats and although they will be slower than multis, it can still be a great show

the last AC was pretty boring to many cat sailors - and this slower speed may turn out to be much more exciting (and bring more people into the sport)
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Posted: Sep 14, 2017 - 12:34 PM

These are always fun to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK60RZDtnT8

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Posted: Sep 14, 2017 - 05:03 PM

Here is another way to go across the bay:

https://vimeo.com/233169047

Going really fast and taking care of business too!

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MN3

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Posted: Sep 15, 2017 - 12:49 PM

HOLLLLY CRAP!
that looks amazing
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Posted: Sep 15, 2017 - 04:14 PM

If you're going to get foiled, you may as well do it on a beachcat, no?

https://youtu.be/36an3hUI3AA

(I should try call my mom from the trapeze wire next time...)

Edited by martin_langhoff on Sep 15, 2017 - 05:18 PM.
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Posted: Sep 16, 2017 - 01:09 AM

The trick is to look really casual.

Maybe do a handstand while on the trapeze and call your mom??

Your boat does look amazing. Cool that your son thinks so too.

dg

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MN3

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Posted: Sep 17, 2017 - 07:49 AM

Martin, just curious ... what happens if you hit patched of seagrass while on foil?
how do you handle seagrass on the boards?
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Posted: Sep 17, 2017 - 10:30 AM

Good question! Depends on whether we're foiling, speed and seagrass density. Note that the foils' vertical struts have negative rake, so anything caught there tends to slide upwards...

If we're foiling, going fast, and the seagrass patch is not too dense, we catch very little, cut some, and the rest slides off quick. If we're foiling slow and/or the patch is very dense, we slow down, stop foiling... swear some.

If we aren't foiling, we catch a ton of it, and requires manual removal, with lots of swearing because of the rake...
MN3

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Posted: Sep 18, 2017 - 10:15 AM

That is what i expected
we have sooo much grass in our bay and even gulf ... it has proven to be a foil fowler (we had hobie tri foilers try, and WindRider Rave - all fail

Quote we catch very little, cut some, and the rest slides off quick

What do you mean cut some?
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Posted: Sep 18, 2017 - 10:27 AM

I think the foils, at speed, get to literally cut some of them. The leading edge of the foils isn't a knife, but can cut the skin of your shin if you walk into it, as a friend of mine can attest.

Maybe I'm imagining things -- keeping the boat under control while foiling takes all of my attention, so I'm not looking. In any case, light to moderate seagrass we get through ok when foiling, and clears out quick.
MN3

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Posted: Sep 18, 2017 - 12:10 PM

cool
i was lifting rudders and boards all day yesterday
was dreaming of a system that actually runs a razor up and down the board to quickly clear them....

martin_langhoffI think the foils, at speed, get to literally cut some of them. The leading edge of the foils isn't a knife, but can cut the skin of your shin if you walk into it, as a friend of mine can attest.

Maybe I'm imagining things -- keeping the boat under control while foiling takes all of my attention, so I'm not looking. In any case, light to moderate seagrass we get through ok when foiling, and clears out quick.