Okay so, I'm seriously thinking about upgrading the mainsheet system on my H16. It has the old Seaway 5:1 set up and I am wanting the low profile 6:1. Should I go with what Hobie offers as standard on a new H16, or is there something better? Keep in mind I am not racing, I just want something that is easier to use.
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6:1 Mainsheet System.
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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 11:28 AM
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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 11:50 AM
You really can’t go wrong with Harken. A little pricey, but will last decades. I think the latest racing version uses a pretty small upper block for max rake, but really the standard 2.25” (57mm) triple that was stock since the late 80’s would be fine for what you’re doing.
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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 12:41 PM
I upgraded my h18 to a harken tripple block on the boom - LOVED IT
then upgraded my bottom to the 57 ratchomatic - LOVED IT - years later realized the ratchet wasn't engaging - harken replaced it without question
Later upgraded to a quad top when i upgraded to a mystere 5.5 LOVED IT
years later my ratchomatic AND top block was dying of old age and use (bearing were shot)
Harken replaced it FREE - but I asked and they agreed to upgrade me to the 75mm (at cost + 10%) LOVE IT
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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 06:45 PM
It’s a great upgrade, you’ll never go back. I replaced a failed Harken recently and went back with Harken on the recommendation of this site. The price difference between the Nautos, Ronstan and Harken wasn’t really all that much. -
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Posted: Apr 11, 2019 - 08:01 PM
Thanks for the advice, I will go with the Harken that is currently standard on the H16. Hope to have it in a few weeks.
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Posted: Apr 12, 2019 - 09:52 AM
What most people don't take into consideration is the size of the line running through the blocks. A small line will run through a big block easily, but a large diameter line run through too small of a block creates an enormous amount of internal rope friction making the tight bend around the block. That is why you will see tapered mainsheets on almost anything 8:1 or above.
Even though a 57mm block will accommodate a 3/8" line, the amount of internal rope friction sort of defeats the purpose of using a quality block. -
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Posted: Apr 12, 2019 - 11:28 AM
There's a nice looking Harken 2632 in the parts classifieds on this site for a decent price that would be a good start.
You might have to replace that stand up block with a pad eye.
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Posted: Apr 13, 2019 - 12:06 AM
Excellent reminder, Mike.
So it’s a choice between white-knuckle joint damage to your hands, or shoulder surgery,..
I think I’ll start handing the main to my crew, and let THEM deal with it.
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Posted: Apr 13, 2019 - 03:41 PM
I prefer the white knuckle joint damage. I love the way a smaller diameter line runs through the blocks, good gloves are a must -
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Posted: Apr 13, 2019 - 05:11 PM
Personally, I like big ass line. I run 1/2" in my main sheet.
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Posted: Apr 13, 2019 - 08:31 PM
Feel free to recommend good gloves. All mine are in shreds.
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Posted: Apr 15, 2019 - 06:18 PM
8mm is the max for mainsheet line. I've been told some of the teams are running 5mm line in the Harken GP blocks.
Atlas 330 Gloves: https://www.amazon.com/Showa-Atlas-Re-Grip-Coated-Gloves/dp/B00KJ23FVU/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=atlas+330+gloves&qid=1555366660&s=gateway&sr=8-2 -
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Posted: Apr 15, 2019 - 07:50 PM
Have a 6:1 low profile Harken system listed in classifieds. PM me if interested. Pete -
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Posted: Apr 17, 2019 - 08:22 AM
PM sent.
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Posted: Apr 20, 2019 - 09:40 AM
Send me your cell # for picture. Pete -
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Posted: Apr 21, 2019 - 02:11 AM
I sent my cell # in a PM to you earlier today, being Saturday. Still interested.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2019 - 10:43 AM
I just want to give a shout out to pbegle for hooking me up with a really nice Harken low profile 6:1 set up. I cannot wait to have some time off from work to go sailing and try out the new set up. Thanks Pete!!!
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1984 Hobie 16 Redline Yellow Nationals, "Yellow Fever"
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