It's time for me to replace the 23 year old standing rigging on my H21sc. They match the H18 so the standard wire shrouds are reasonably priced and readily available. Salty Dog (the Ebay Store) is the cheapest for a set and Murrays isn't far behind. Anyone have a comment on the material or quality of workmanship from either of these two?
The other option is to go with a synthetic rig like Colligo. Any idea how they work around the shroud extenders which are used for righting? I'm also wondering if the synthetic rig makes sense for a family cruising/ camping boat? My biggest concern would be damaging a line due to chafing.
Synthetic or Traditional Standing Rigging
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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 - 10:41 PM
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 06:54 AM
I would stick with stainless steel wire-as you've experienced, it lasts a good long time when taken care of, or even when not taken that great of care. I replace more often than most, every 2 to 3 years, as dropping masts is expensive, but there is plenty of 10+ year old standing stainless rigging at the club.
As to source, Murrays has always built the correct length, even for custom jobs.
With the synthetic rigging, the biggest advantages are weight, ease of transport, and the ability to build yourself. I would attach them to the factory shroud extenders. For a family cruising boat, the increased risk of damage due to chafe and the reduced life due to UV degradation would have me looking elsewhere. Plus, you need some pretty pricey line, I would use 4mm D12 Max 78 at a minimum. -
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 11:19 AM
Murray's and Salty Dog are both reputable vendors.
The current standing rigging on my cat is from Salty Dog, and the replacement set prior to that was from Murray's.
To go synthetic with your standing rigging you will need to use good quality hardware (sailmaker's thimbles) that have no sharp ends.
You may need to improvise some rigging ends, like replacing split forks with a thimble and shackle.
Another concern with synthetics is chafing, especially just below the mast hound caused by mast rotation.
It can be out of sight, out of mind up there, but you will want to keep an eye on it.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 11:59 AM
Thanks for the responses. I received some more information from Colligo regarding their Beach Cat Rigging Set. It only incudes the shrouds which makes a complete replacement of the standing rigging cost prohibitive for my situation.
It looks like i'll be giving Salty Dog a try. -
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 05:09 PM
Is it a bad thing to use my standing rig since i got the boat back in 2010? It is probably the original on from 1993
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Posted: Nov 24, 2020 - 07:25 PM
The biggest thing with standing rigs is to inspect every swage, connector and the wire itself. It will likely be fine if it was mainly or entirely used in fresh water, no corrosion visible in the swages, thimbles and connector, no kinks, no meat-hangers. I got 30 years out of my first standing rig and still replaced it before any damage or drama. Just keep an eye on it.
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Posted: Nov 25, 2020 - 06:38 AM
Every time I rig the boat (begin and end of season) i inspect all Terminals and wires. The was cleary a freshwater boat and has still no corrosion. Maybe Ill call my lokal Nacra importer. He should be helpfull. -
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Posted: Nov 28, 2020 - 06:15 PM
Im running their system on my prindle 19. Definitely worth the cost. I expect well over 10 years use. The proce differenxe will be made up in terms of replacement intervals. As to doing a forestay, it woulnt be much issue to make a synthetic forestay. John is working on doing a torsion rope for my head stay to give full synthetic with furling ability.
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Posted: Nov 28, 2020 - 07:24 PM
Salty Dog has been making replacement rigging on my Hobie 21SE since the boat was new. Right after buying my boat at a Boat Show in '89, I had Don custom make heavier rigging for my Highfield Lever shroud extender system. You need to shorten the shrouds to accommodate the length of the lever when adding this style system. Having this system gave me the ability to right this wide boat with easy. Along with a huge righting bag on a block and tackle.
Salty Dog always get my business.
Go for the standard rigging.
Edited by bill40421SE on Nov 28, 2020 - 09:43 PM.
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Posted: Dec 08, 2020 - 06:11 PM
Something to consider is the weight vs windage factors. The synthetic rigging will be a larger diameter than the metal, therefore having more windage. I don't think many of us would notice a difference of the reduced weight or the extra windage, but it is still a factor to consider.
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