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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 12, 2021 - 08:54 AM
Just bought a cheap ($400) Hobie 16. It's mostly complete but missing some parts on the traveller and needs some new lines. The tops of the hulls are a little soft. I plan to sail this while I get my SC17 going.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 12, 2021 - 10:05 AM
That looks like a low sail number. How old is that H16?
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'82 Super Cat 15
Hull #315
Virginia
Previously owned: '70 H14, '79 H16, '68 Sailmaster 26, '85 H14T
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Posted: May 12, 2021 - 10:16 AM
According to the title, 1977.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 19, 2021 - 12:31 AM
We got our trailer registered. It has a few issues:
1) the crossmembers that hold up the hulls are bent. The story was that some kids were using the trampoline as a trampoline and bent them. We need to straighten those, de-rust them, and paint them.
2) One of the leaf springs was busted. Two new ones are on the way. It seems that leaf springs are all about 25" these days, but the old ones were 32". We'll need to modify the spring mount a bit.
3) all the electrical stuff was trashed, but the trailer came with a new set of LED lights and harness we can install. We had to buy marker lights.
4) The trailer was a little rusty. We have cleaned up the main part of the trailer and the axle so far. Here is the paint job drying:
The boat has a few issues. We are missing the downhaul. The cheek block for the jib halyard is trashed - the plastic disintegrated. The traveler car seems to be missing some parts. The bullseye fairlead for the traveler cleat is missing - probably disintegrated. The lines are somewhat fossilized. There are a couple of soft spots on the tops of the hulls.
Edited by waiex191 on May 19, 2021 - 12:32 AM.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 19, 2021 - 10:55 AM
Is the V tail in the background a Beech Bonanza?
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Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
Various other Dock cluttering WaterCrap
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Posted: May 19, 2021 - 12:23 PM
Nope! It's a Sonex Waiex. I've been building it with my son for the last 7+ years. We are done building and down to the paperwork.
First engine start last weekend:
https://youtu.be/uHAaI3cqUjw
Here is the kit company - Sonex in Oshkosh, WI.
https://www.sonexaircraft.com/
They are on the B model now, mine is a classic A model.
Edited by waiex191 on May 19, 2021 - 12:23 PM.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 20, 2021 - 08:20 AM
I thought it looked small for a Bonanza, but there's not many designs with the V tail. Enjoy, been many years since I flew light pistons. My current ride, (certainly not owned by myself), is the Triple 7
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Hobie 18 Magnum
Dart 15
Mystere 6.0XL Sold Was a handful solo
Nacra 5.7
Nacra 5.0
Bombardier Invitation (Now officially DEAD)
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Posted: May 20, 2021 - 11:10 AM
We had a lot of ATPs in the glider clubs I used to belong in. It seemed like a common way for the pros to reconnect with the joys of simple flying. Interestingly enough, we also had a lot of sailors in the glider clubs. Soaring and sailing are very analogous to each other.
I've also not flown light piston (or anything!) in almost 8 years - between family and building the airplane that got put on the back burner. I am going to schedule my flight review for this weekend or next and start building proficiency again. I've got some test flying in my future.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 21, 2021 - 05:42 PM
We are still rebuilding the trailer. New hub seals and wheel studs are on the way. I found on one hub the wheel studs were worn halfway through, as though the wheel had been loose a long time. I know I could buy new hubs for $30 each, but they would be made in china. My made in Japan bearings looked like they were in good shape.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 23, 2021 - 01:19 PM
I took off one of the rollers yesterday so I could straighten, clean off, and paint the bracket. After I straightened it, I noticed a crack in the corner. I checked and two others were cracked, and one had been welded. That is the problem with any project on old junk - the proverbial can of worms. We also bought marker lights for the back from Amazon. There were only remnants on the trailer and the SC17 trailer has none. We bought these little 3/4" lights and they are awesome. Needs an 11/16" hole to install properly.
https://www.amazon.com/dp…yo2_dt_b_product_details
One of my sailor co-workers told me about Cajun Rope. Prices seem very reasonable.
https://www.cajunrope.com…e_Shipping%E2%80%8B.html
The jib sheet is broken - I am pretty sure all lines are due for replacement.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 26, 2021 - 03:28 PM
I often hear that "there is nothing more expensive than a free sailboat" and other advice to spend the money to get something good out of the gate. I think there is a lot of truth there. Our trailer project has spiraled out of control a bit. The new studs were spinning in the old hubs. We welded them on but I elected to buy new hubs anyway, especially when some weld spatter landed on the races. Whoops. We have moved the leaf spring brackets and located new holes in the spring mounts. I've ordered all the lines except for batten ties. I need to make a parts list for the boat and get that stuff on order. Summer is coming.
Here is the welding of the cracked roller brackets happening. You can see we have straightened, cleaned, and primed the spreaders. Also the front of the trailer has been cleaned and painted. We are probably about $170 extra into the trailer so far.
Edited by waiex191 on May 26, 2021 - 03:29 PM.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: May 26, 2021 - 11:59 PM
Hey-keep it up and keep posting. My cup of tea. I ended up building new triple rollers, only now I have to re-build them because they don't balance right. Yeah, it may be equal or a little less to build in the end, but you learn and are self-sufficient. And that, my friend is American, apple pie and sailing.
Good stuff!
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Chuck C
NACRA 500 Mk2
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Posted: Jun 01, 2021 - 01:14 PM
Thanks Chuck. We finished our trailer over the weekend. New springs, hubs, lights, wiring, and of course paint. With the shorter springs and moving the axle all the way forward we have positive tongue weight, but it is not excessive like it was before. We did a test run to 70 mph with the boat on and it was good.
New lines and new parts from Murrays are on the way. Hope to have this on the water for Father's day.
Edited by waiex191 on Jun 01, 2021 - 01:15 PM.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: Jun 07, 2021 - 05:55 PM
I'm putting the igloo beer coolers aside for a bit and trying to get the H16 lakeworthy by Father's day. My lines from Cajun Rope came today. They look good. Hoping the trampoline will last for this season anyway. It's not great. We took off the Home Depot lacing that was on it.
Also you can see in the picture I bought a $20 harbor freight bumper mount 2" receiver. I'm going to put in a rear mast support that plugs into the receiver. I'll show more pictures later when that is done.
We pulled off the rudders and it looks like I need at least one rudder cam. I'm going to buy the 2 pack from Murray's and just refresh them both, even though only one is broken. We also pulled out the drain plug and the gudgeon. Here is probably the most serious problem with the boat:
There is some fiberglassing in my near future.
Edited by waiex191 on Jun 07, 2021 - 06:34 PM.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: Jun 07, 2021 - 07:38 PM
Ouchy! Took a hit, but it's glass and can be fixed. It's not manly, but a loofa sponge, the synthetic kind is pretty good for getting fiberglass out of the skin... Of course, dressing for the occasion is better...
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Posted: Jun 07, 2021 - 07:50 PM
I'll be dressing for the occasion and using the shop vacuum while I sand. That's a trick I learned from the finest composite technicians at Sikorsky Aircraft.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: Jun 08, 2021 - 12:01 AM
Tonight Adam put new tires on the spare rims for the trailer. I did a bunch of welding and fabricating for the aft mast support, and we sanded out the cracks in the transom:
Looks pretty ugly. The wood behind the transom has been wet. At some point this will need a bigger restoration than I'm currently doing.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: Jun 08, 2021 - 03:09 PM
For getting glass out of skin, I like masking tape. Pat it on the affected spot and peel it off. Tape, peel repeat.
When I put a stern mast support on my trailer, I set the height off the ground with the mast pinned to the base and the mast head on an 8'-0" stepladder. That gave it a nice angle for raising. It also stores the mast nicely for tarping during winter storage.Makes a nice tent, sheds the snow. If I had it to do over I'd add a foot the height so I stop banging my head. Yeah Hobie and their wood reinforced sterns! Eff that!
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'82 Super Cat 15
Hull #315
Virginia
Previously owned: '70 H14, '79 H16, '68 Sailmaster 26, '85 H14T
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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 01:09 AM
We did a couple of layups in there, then I made flox by mixing resin with chopped glass and sawdust. Jammed it in, sanded down when it was cured.
Unfortunately I'm missing some battens - two for the main and two for the jib. That's the #5 & #6 I need for the main, and the #3 and #4 for the jib.
gahamby, good ideas on the aft mast support. Unfortunately I'd already welded it up. Also I'd like to be able to use my truck to pull it, and the mast needs to go high to clear the topper. I also keep my boats inside.
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Bryan in Poplar Grove, IL
Supercat 17, unknown year. Future project
Hobie 16, 1977 - died a spectacular death https://youtu.be/Y7O22bp2MVA
Hobie 16, 1978 - current boat
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Posted: Jun 13, 2021 - 01:45 PM
My front mast support is quite tall. Puts the base almost 8-0 off the ground in trail/storage position. This clears the top of my camper van. I do have to mind driveway dips.
Edited by gahamby on Jun 13, 2021 - 04:02 PM.
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'82 Super Cat 15
Hull #315
Virginia
Previously owned: '70 H14, '79 H16, '68 Sailmaster 26, '85 H14T
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