Sourcing Mystere Replacement Trampoline

jgregs

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Posted: Feb 22, 2022 - 02:42 PM

Hey All,

I have been reviving a 1997 Mystere 6.0 and the trampoline is pretty worn out. Any tips for how to bring it back to life or, if that isn't going to happen, where to get a new one?

James
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Posted: Feb 22, 2022 - 04:14 PM

jgregsHey All,

I have been reviving a 1997 Mystere 6.0 and the trampoline is pretty worn out. Any tips for how to bring it back to life or, if that isn't going to happen, where to get a new one?

James

Depending on the condition of the material itself, you can get it restitched. Typically, you can do 2 to 3 restitchings with a life of a trampoline. I have trampolines for two different boats that are from (at least) the 80's. I restitched them a couple of years ago. What ever you do, do not use Armor All on the trampoline to make it pretty....

but, for replacement, I use C&C Sailmakers in Houston.

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MN3

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Posted: Feb 23, 2022 - 08:14 AM

some can be restitched but think about this
if you fall through your tramp while stepping or unstepping your mast, try not to break both ankles/feet/legs at the same time on the trailer below - as it will make getting around much harder

I recommend SunriseYacht (https://multihullnets.com/) for mystere tramps - mystere tramps have crazy small bolt ropes and the builder needs to be able to handle this - SLO sail and canvas FAILED BIG TIME - they could not make it and failed to return the tramp i sent them as a template - i strongly suggest you steer away from them
texastuma

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Posted: Feb 23, 2022 - 09:48 AM

MN3some can be restitched but think about this
if you fall through your tramp while stepping or unstepping your mast, try not to break both ankles/feet/legs at the same time on the trailer below - as it will make getting around much harder

I recommend SunriseYacht (https://multihullnets.com/) for mystere tramps - mystere tramps have crazy small bolt ropes and the builder needs to be able to handle this - SLO sail and canvas FAILED BIG TIME - they could not make it and failed to return the tramp i sent them as a template - i strongly suggest you steer away from them

Understand and agree fully on the smaller bolt rope. My Tornado tramps use (I think) a 4mm bolt rope. I hate to hear of misfortunes with anyone in the marine industry, but it happens.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 03:29 AM

I’m not sure all the Mysteres used the small bolt rope.
I ripped my 6.0XL, (in the 10’ wide configuration), & while speaking with Yves Sansoucy, regarding replacement, he specifically asked about the bolt rope size I had.
He mailed me a brand new tramp,within the week.

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jgregs

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 06:25 AM

the material seems dry but isn't fraying. When should I replace it?
MN3

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 08:31 AM

jgregsthe material seems dry but isn't fraying. When should I replace it?

If you can see "runs" in it like a stocking
if you can use a fingernail and break a string that is used to sew it together
if it has rips in it that aren't patched that are growing or ripping
when you can put a foot through it without trying
jgregs

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 08:48 AM

MN3
jgregsthe material seems dry but isn't fraying. When should I replace it?

If you can see "runs" in it like a stocking
if you can use a fingernail and break a string that is used to sew it together
if it has rips in it that aren't patched that are growing or ripping
when you can put a foot through it without trying

HAHA That last one made me laugh. I don't meet any of the above conditions. I know not to use ArmorAll but is there a product your recommend for softening it up? Might help to stretch it tight again too
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 09:02 AM

Quote is there a product your recommend for softening it up? Might help to stretch it tight again too

not that i am aware of
modern tramps are made from Polypropylen - think your grocery/garbage bag
not a lot you can do to soften this stuff up besides heat
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Posted: May 12, 2023 - 10:41 AM

Well, it happened. I was stepping the mast for a maiden voyage and the seams began to rip.

Now I get to replace this piece as well. . . .

Eventually I will get to sail this boat. . . .
charlescarlis

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Posted: May 13, 2023 - 11:46 PM

Been there, done that last summer. The Thread rots faster than the mesh, unless you use ptfe thread. I've re-sewn a tramp twice before the mesh started to rot. If the propylene mesh is solid, you can get the tramp re-sewn to last for a season or 2. If the tramp mesh is tearing, it's done.

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MN3

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Posted: May 14, 2023 - 10:21 AM

QuoteWell, it happened. I was stepping the mast for a maiden voyage and the seams began to rip.

Order your new one asap - it is busy season for the guys who make them

will again suggest sunrise - or call mystere in canada. dollar is pretty strong right now and you may get a good value (1.37)... however, you may also have your order held up in customs for weeks... months
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Posted: May 14, 2023 - 10:51 AM

One thing I didn't do when ordering a new tramp from Sunrise Yacht Products that I wish I had done was give any consideration to custom additions. For example, a large built in storage bag that spans the width of the tramp or some halyard pockets.

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Posted: May 14, 2023 - 03:25 PM

shortyfoxOne thing I didn't do when ordering a new tramp from Sunrise Yacht Products that I wish I had done was give any consideration to custom additions. For example, a large built in storage bag that spans the width of the tramp or some halyard pockets.

do you have the front tramp on your g-cat? I am guessing not. you can always get a pocket added to any tramp but it is a pain to remove it and be without it for a week or so

the mystere templates they use have a front tramp pocket for the halyard and a rear tramp pocket that goes the entire width in the stern - we call those leaf catchers and I asked them to not include that in my last few tramps - but i did always order and extra wide front pocket

an extra grommet for a spin retrieval line was a good addition
shortyfox

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Posted: May 14, 2023 - 09:53 PM

Quotedo you have the front tramp on your g-cat?

I do have a front tramp but I'm not using it. I sail mostly alone, and I feel more in control without it, especially when it gets too windy. The pros and cons of front tramps are many and could be an interesting thread.

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MN3

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Posted: May 15, 2023 - 10:06 PM

shortyfox
Quotedo you have the front tramp on your g-cat?

I do have a front tramp but I'm not using it. I sail mostly alone, and I feel more in control without it, especially when it gets too windy. The pros and cons of front tramps are many and could be an interesting thread.

agreed