ROFLOL <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />. And if Ding wins, you'll have to drive to California to compete in the F18 Worlds?
Get out of my head Mr. Hathaway.
I still like the way I said it better.
I spent two days trying to get to Seattle once, I ended up going to DFW to get to SEA and eventually on to HNL.
One of the big reasons we MOVED TO FLORIDA in 1997 was because we had a nightmare experience trying to get home from visiting my wife's Mother down here in Sebring one year.
It took the 6 of us (4 kids ages 1, 4, 8, 8) two days, on 4 flights, to simply get from Orlando to Boston! We had to FLY from Orlando to Tampa, then on to Cincinnati, then to Atlanta. Get a hotel room at midnight, get up at 5am, return to the airport for the 7am flt. to Boston. I said, "We are NEVER doing that again! We have never flown with all the kids since.
I would actually rather drive than go to the airport, I can listen to MY music and do as I please. I just can't add 2 days on each end of a 1 week regatta for travel, due to my limited time off.
And if I'm going to drive all the way up to Conn, I'm going to keep going the extra 3 hours to my Mom's house in NH and sail it up there against the kids I grew up racing against. It would be great to see them again!
ROFLOL <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />. And if Ding wins, you'll have to drive to California to compete in the F18 Worlds?
Do I have to drive to Cali? How about Ding drives and I fly...He's the one who loves to drive long distances.
And then he's got to pull strings for ME!
Ohhh, I'm starting to like this!
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And then he's got to pull strings for ME!
Ohhh, I'm starting to like this!
<img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />
What ever your heart desires Princess.
Sorry I missed this, I was out sailing off lovely Sanibel Island...in the rain.
I think boats are named after women 'cause the bitch will try to drown you if you let up for even a second. Many thanks to the anonymous fisherman who gave my
stuff
, to the Parks & Rec guy, (who called my wife, scared her to death), and then drove said stuff up to the boat ramp. I really needed my keys, it would have been a bitch walking home. Being short is a pita, if I were taller, my arms would be longer and I would have been able to hang on to the rudder and reach my cooler. I really think you should let the traveler down in anything over fifteen, before you bring in the 'chute. Why do bridges look more menacing when the boat is on it's side? How fast is the wind blowing if the rain hurts your eyes so badly you have to turn your head away? Sanibel is a lovely place to sail, but a little pricey. $9 for the bridge, $2/hour for parking. But they have very helpful fishermen and Parks & Rec. guys. Even if they don't speak English, they laugh a lot.
Now...
My tent has two rooms, I only use one. We should figure an inexpensive way to send a lot of boats up NAWTH. Then you guys could fly in. Probably cheaper than driving and a lot less time.
Ding will do very well Uni, just let the traveler down...
there is not even a fleet of F16's anywhere in New England, not sure if there is but one lone boat up in Conneticut. So why make the entire class drive days or many hours to support...who?
Hey, maybe in 2013 we can do it in Seattle!
I think that's part of this discussion! <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />
But anyway,
Here's what I think!
2012 We can schedule it in Panama City(to move it around) and then 2013, do it at Roton Point. By that time, there should be enough of a fleet spread out that there should be a decent showing, ~15 boats. You can't have a blow out Nationals every year. Don't forget, the F18's only had 27 or so at their Nationals only a couple of years ago.
Just make sure the organizing authority(or whom ever it is) aware that it might be a small turnout, ~15 boats.
I do think 2012 would be too soon to have it there though, especially since the Nationals where in Maryland in 2011. <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />
The fact of the matter is, some people AREN'T going to travel. Especially, if it costs a lot in fuel, vacation and other stuff.
Ok, so is this discussion done?
If so, I think we need to do a poll!
Roton Point? I'm down for that! With young children, a full time job and a wife who runs a 7 day a week business it's impossible to get away. I can make time for a major regatta that's only a few hours away. I wish I had time to hook up with all you guys for the big regattas down south. It would make me a better sailor. I can appreciate the time, effort and money most of you guys expend to attend these regattas. Light wind must totally piss you off!
2012 F16 NATIONALS @ ST. ANDREW'S BAY YACHT CLUB IN PANAMA CITY, FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!
Better sneak it in before December 12. I saw a movie saying the world was gonna end.
Wait...hold it ON Dec. 12! Call it the
End of Days Regatta
! Of course we would have to get completely trashed and not return to our wives...but I can live with that.
But Honey, the WORLD ENDED, that's why I didn't come home...
Actually the world did not end, it flooded which puts us in a very good position during the racing.
Then I'm going to need one of those big Tri's like Kevin Kostner in Water World!
F
that! Out of all the watercraft in that movie you'd take the dinky little trimaran? Give me the tanker, if the worlds covered in water, who gives a crap if you're moving? It's not like you got anywhere to go. At least with the tanker you'd have some room to move around, go jogging, throw people from the rail....etc
Is there still a discussion about the Nationals? If there is I vote for Panama City <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />. I would rather not have to drive that far 2 years in a row.
Floor is still open for discussion. I believe that there is a consensus for alternating
North
&
South
years. There is one additional consideration for deliberation that may be introduced next week and then I suspect there will call for motions.
Remember, actual voting will be conducted via the USF16 Google e-mail list.
North
&
South
years. There is one additional consideration for deliberation that may be introduced next week and then I suspect there will call for motions.
Remember, actual voting will be conducted via the USF16 Google e-mail list.
OK...Here is an additional variable that I wish to add for the members to consider:
Roton Point hosting the 2011 USF16 Nationals during the same dates currently scheduled for WRSC.
Here are my thoughts:
- Roton Point is anxious to host the USF16 Nationals and help promote F16s in New England. By September, 2011, there should be a greater F16 presence in NE and the momentum of having the USF16 Nationals will only add to it! The proposed dates coincide with their annual event. They are rehearsed with supporting multihull events.
- Dovetails well with the F18 Nationals, placing dual teams and manufacturers much closerer to both venues, approx 4 hours driving distance.
- WRSC will host the 2013 USF16 Nationals (North year), maybe even coordinating as part of Annapolis Race Week (Labor Day Weekend) and leverage the real time footage, protest committee (as though we need one), festivities, and swag.
- StABYC members have voiced their desire to host the 2012 USF16 Nationals (South Year).
Essentially, we will have 2011, 2012, & 2013 on the books!!!
I'm in favor of this change and urge the membership to accept it. We would be able to establish ourselves, as a class, with three excellent venues who are anxious to have us.
It is my suggestion that the matter be left open to discussion for a short time and then placed before the membership for a formal vote. This vote should come soon. We do not want to keep folks waiting on our decision.
Discussion?
Are we * THAT * notorious that they would be
anxious
to have us?
Or, perhaps, they would be
eager
to have us?
Bustin' on you pgp.
Tback
Kris
Have you confirmed that Roton Point will be able to RC three days of racing? This event is usually a two day regatta and always a conflict with Chesapeake regattas.
You mentioned Race Week Saturday... FYI... I would not advise trying to get a start at Annapolis Race Week. They put the big boat circle (Farr 40's, PHRF A0, A1, Benne 36.5, J105 and J35's on the circle. They already have issues with the J105's. I know AYC would not mix cats on the course... (I spoke with Jeff B several years ago... they have a slow burn about the 105's already).
Second problem... they rendezvous in the middle of the bay and then try to set the course well away from the confluence of the West and South River.... It was a 45 minute motor at 6 knots to the race course this weekend. We were almost on the eastern shore this weekend. If you crash... it would be a tow boat USA scene to get back to the river or wait for the end of the day.
Finally, the party is centered in Annapolis... The 45 minute drive into downtown and then trying to park is a real party killer. The Cal 25 NA's were this weekend and I am told they feel they get a bit lost in the process. They used SSA to host their fleet parties.
These facts are reasons we have not tried to get a start in the NOODS in the spring as well. The SSA dinghy classes run their own regatta rather then fit in with the NOODs as well.
Mark
I see how ur! <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" /> You gonna do Juana's?
Eric Witte is coordinating with Roton Point. I am aware that Roton Point's event occurs the same weekend as WRSC's Carl Miller and is
usually
a 2 day regatta. Eric knows the parameters to host the USF16 Nationals.
Thanks for the advice on ARW. I would never consider running on the same course as monos (LOL), even the poor J105 step-children. I envision more of an event within an event. Beachcats would be stationed at Sandy Point, carry their own course, and RC. 2013 is far away and plenty of time see if it is possible, to make friends, and work out the logistics (school bus, landing or hovercraft).
Hi Kris,
Just wanted you to know that we support what ever the class would like to do. With out a doubt, it is always nice when an event is in your back yard, but it can’t always be that way.
I think one of key things that are necessary to be a success the class is already on….that is to plan ahead! Some of the other things that make a great event are to make sure a regatta is safe and offers a good PRO and organization on the water for quality racing.
We are very much in favor of having big events and in the future it is our hopes to have the 16s and the 18s working more together. There are some cross over sailors for sure but the reality is it makes sense to have big events for everyone from the sailors to the spectators and especially the organizers.
With regards to the manufacturers, we are trying hard to lead the charge to have the different manufacturers for both the F18’s and F16s support the events and the classes.
With regards to Red Gear Racing. We continue to strive to raise the bar for all sailors and we will continue to train all sailors on all boats.
You will see a common theme in what we do….from coaching with Red Gear Racing, to selling the AHPC boats with Fun in the Sun and our dealers, to trying to reach our youth sailors with the subsidized VIPER Club boats, our mission is to grow and improve the sport of sailing! We will make every effort to be at the class events no matter where they are!
I would appreciate it if you can post this for me.
SAIL FASTER...PUSH HARDER!
Best regards,
Jill A. Nickerson
Fun in the Sun Services, Inc.
727-734-0799 www.funinthesunweb.com
Red Gear Racing www.redgearracing.com
Facebook: Red Gear Racing
**** Posted on Jill Nickerson's behalf, Kris Hathaway
No Juana's this year ... falls on a home UCF football game. I'll see you at Wildcat ... in fact I just joined the club there so I store my boat with mast-up access.
T.
Just as a point of interest it would be good to talk with the F18 officers for future events to do whatever coordination is possible, either to prevent conflicting dates or to even plan for dates that could compliment one another.
Realistically if one event could be on the tail of the other separated by a day and in the same region that would be awesome. Maybe not always possible, but it would be slick being able to take off from one event straight to the other. Then again I'm just being selfish, and I'm trying to save myself a few days of driving.
Already ahead of you on that one. Despite everyone's best efforts, plans can run amuck.
2012 F-18 Worlds (no F18 North Americans) will be in California, so no complimentary F16 Nationals as I see it for 2012. Just need to avoid date conflict.
Yes, avoiding a conflicting date would be paramount for 2012. Given the choice I wouldn't skip Worlds for Nationals.
Dude, if you're scared just say you're scared 🙂
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Dude, if you're scared just say you're scared 🙂
I don't get it.....
North
&
South
years. There is one additional consideration for deliberation that may be introduced next week and then I suspect there will call for motions.
Remember, actual voting will be conducted via the USF16 Google e-mail list.
OK...Here is an additional variable that I wish to add for the members to consider:
Roton Point hosting the 2011 USF16 Nationals during the same dates currently scheduled for WRSC.
Here are my thoughts:
- Roton Point is anxious to host the USF16 Nationals and help promote F16s in New England. By September, 2011, there should be a greater F16 presence in NE and the momentum of having the USF16 Nationals will only add to it! The proposed dates coincide with their annual event. They are rehearsed with supporting multihull events.
- Dovetails well with the F18 Nationals, placing dual teams and manufacturers much closerer to both venues, approx 4 hours driving distance.
- WRSC will host the 2013 USF16 Nationals (North year), maybe even coordinating as part of Annapolis Race Week (Labor Day Weekend) and leverage the real time footage, protest committee (as though we need one), festivities, and swag.
- StABYC members have voiced their desire to host the 2012 USF16 Nationals (South Year).
Essentially, we will have 2011, 2012, & 2013 on the books!!!
Sorry Kris, I didn't read this. I am all for this! 4 hrs would be F-ing awesome compared to ~12 hrs and the next day being fueled entirely by Red Bull and methamphetamine, (not a good combo btw, make's ya kinda twitchy).
BTW- Is there supposed to be a mass email sent out to vote back on? I really don't feel like setting up a google account. I need another online ID like I need a 2nd assho1e.
(edit)- nevermind, went back and read the thread on the class forum where you already answered that for me.