Fyi... we have the sleeves in stock. F99301710 $29.99
They are 18" long. These came in with foam plugs glued in each end.
How can anyone say that when we pay over 20K for a new boat with no motor? 4K for a set of sails that will last only 2 years if you're careful?
That statement makes no ****ing sense at all.
Because most don't.
How can anyone say that when we pay over 20K for a new boat with no motor? 4K for a set of sails that will last only 2 years if you're careful?
That statement makes no ****ing sense at all.
Amen Brotha. I was thinking the same thing.
Ya gotta look outside your (extremely) small group of friends. There are not that many spending big bucks on cats or we wouldn't be having his conversation. Look at the fleets that are active at any one time. Same guys move from fleet to fleet. It's not a big pool of buyers.
I'm not questioning your marketing, the race market is break even at best, suicide at worst. The comment was directed at Karl and Lee ,not the thread in general.
I was just saying the racers I know including myself are anything but cheap more like mugging victims and that is the circle I know.
F18 sailors spend money, there just aren't enough of them, and they are the biggest racing group behind Hobie 16s, who hate spending money.
Just my observations over the years...
Mike
And A cat guys spend the most. I have an F-18, A cat and a Hobie 16 so I'm doomed. Hard to keep up.
and what's the odds Hobie NA will sell more than fifty Hobie 16's in 2012? extremely small market indeed
People keep wanting them to be more performance oriented, but it's pretty obvious where the money comes from. SUPs and Kayaks are the moneymakers. I'd doubt that if they hadn't diversified into stuff besides cats, they'd still be solvent.
I have people that come in looking for something. Everyone of them say the same thing.
Used to have a H-16 but don't want another.
They don't want plastic either.
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag? (real old Acat?)
Doublehand, perhaps a Hobie 16 Tatoo? http:/
Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.
Matt, remind me to punch you in the seeds next weekend.
Thanks.
Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.
I cant tell if you are joking or serious.
Its a singlehander which weights a ton and is almost impossible to right unless you weight 200kgs.
Thanks.
Obvious troll is obvious.
200 kgs? Um, no. I weigh 175 lbs (<80 kgs) and I have no trouble righting mine. Then again, my mast doesn't leak.
Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.
Agree, got my last one for $1,800 with trailer. 2000 Sport in great shape.
Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.
Ummm...nah....that boat is happier sitting in irons than any boat I've ever sailed. You should really try an A.
Word.
Different boats for different folks. We have had three H-17's in our family, with three generations of Tarleton's racing them. Probably the best cat to sail in high winds. But what do we know, only been sailing them since 1986.
Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.
Ummm...nah....that boat is happier sitting in irons than any boat I've ever sailed. You should really try an A.
You obivously never sailed a Hobie 14 in any kind of a breeze. It's like mud wrestling with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig has fun.
On the Hobie 17:
Famous speech I've heard before.
My H17 experience was limited to light to moderate breeze in a couple of regattas...so I can't speak for how it is to sail in breeze.
Matt-
If you have never sailed an A Class you can take mine for a spin,you may change your mind.
Fred Smith CAN31- A Class
Fred, set something down on your kitchen table. Anything. Now I want you to move it using only your mind. Let me know how that goes, then you can work up to easier things like changing Matt's mind about the H17.
Almost anything performs better dw than a H17
Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.
In Matt's defense he said
Best boat Hobie's ever made.
Hobie has never made an A cat. Now if the question was
What's the best singlehanded cat out there?
, I think hands down the answer would be
A cat
.
You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used.
Which is why you mount a spinnaker on one and have a blast.
Karl-
One can only try.
Fred
One thing you might not wanna try is to sit down with Matt and Billy Whitehurst in a discussion regarding the opportunities for performance that live aboard the H 17. Good Gosh, Whitehurst uses running backs!
Class legal?