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One person enough to right the F16 in all conditions?

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(@davefarmer)
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Pete,
I get back on the boat by grabbing the dolphin striker as it comes over. Then with an arm on the main beam, one on the hull, facing sort of aft and outward, and I can swing a leg up on the hull forward, and scramble onto the hull, and then the tramp.
I've also experienced getting the bows into the wind, but having it reorient by the time I get to the righting line/pole. Not sure what the solution is to that.

Dave


 
Posted : February 16, 2011 7:43 pm
pgp
 pgp
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I think most of the guys double the bag, just to be on the safe side.


 
Posted : February 16, 2011 8:33 pm
 Karl
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Originally Posted by pgp
I think most of the guys double the bag, just to be on the safe side.

That depends entirely on how much you've had to drink.....

What Dave said.


 
Posted : February 16, 2011 9:02 pm
(@Anonymous 38725)
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A Two Bagger? yeah, been there, done that!

Her,

how about we go back to my place tonight?

Me,

I can't, I'm too drunk.

Her,

Well what about tomorrow?

Me,

I can't, I'll be too sober...

8^0


 
Posted : February 16, 2011 9:43 pm
pgp
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That's the same way I do it. Except if the boat has ANY headway, I'm not strong enough.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by pgp
How are you getting back on the boat?

If it is windy enough, the boat will lift back up with less effort and making it possible to slip around the front beam and onto the tramp while she rights. Cool when you can pull it off.

Did it twice on a Blade. Have not had many opportunities on the Falcon (so much harder to capsize and more experienced) and the higher beam with prominent chine may make it harder to achieve.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 9:08 am
pgp
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Which hull are you trying to mount from? The one in the water or the one in the air?


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 9:16 am
 Karl
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The one in the water. There's a small window there where the boat is coming up, put doesn't need you to pull anymore. On an A-Cat its cake, with a spin pole in the way it can be tricky.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 9:31 am
pgp
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Hmm. I have a lot of strings up front that get in the way.

My knee jerk reaction is to go to a large heavy duty bag kept under the tramp. It would require some rigging, but if you substitute the bag for your body weight, you could then sit on the

down

hull and haul the boat over, remounting without the need for gymnastic ability. Maybe not the best solution for racing but more certain when sailing alone.

http://store.catsailor.com/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=8453&idcategory=0


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 9:50 am
yurdle
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Don't discount the effort of retrieving a righting bag in medium to high winds.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by SIAM
I had the main, traveller and downhaul all off (maybe not rotation) and was hanging right on the bow kicking with my legs to swing the bows into the wind but could still only get it to 45 degrees enough to get the wind under the sail but could not get it round further

This may be the problem; you need to let the sterns drift down wind; not swim/kick the bows to the wind.

If you are forward you are sinking the bows; trying to swim them round is going to be difficult/impossible; let the wind blow the higher-flowting sterns to drift away.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by scooby_simon
This may be the problem; you need to let the sterns drift down wind; not swim/kick the bows to the wind.

If you are forward you are sinking the bows; trying to swim them round is going to be difficult/impossible; let the wind blow the higher-flowting sterns to drift away.

Problem is if there is a strong current from the same direction. The bows being pushed down dig into the current. Usually, it results in a 45% angle to the wind.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 3:55 pm
Chris9
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I recall watching you that night and from the stand it looked like you were doing all the right things.


 
Posted : February 17, 2011 9:31 pm
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I agree, the problem can be the issue of getting the bows in the right direction and then getting on the hull in time to right it. In 15kn of wind, should be no problem getting it back up even if you weigh 70lbs. I haven't had an issue recently... but I don't sail the boat very frequently.


 
Posted : February 19, 2011 3:58 pm
 Karl
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in 15kt's you could damn near right the Titanic singlehanded.

(edit)- Its the days when you're screwing around on the low side in light air its tough to right a singlehanded F16. When its blowing its pretty easy. Add some waves its even easier.


 
Posted : February 19, 2011 6:12 pm
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