18 Square

Another pic of squaretop

Nice looking sail !!!!! any chance anyone has an old sq top for sale ???? Which club are these sailing at ??

That looks like Lake Norman Yacht Club in North Cackalackie.

Curved Traveler pics added ...

The orange one that went to Houston was (largely) destroyed while (by?) being doublehanded by a 190-lber and a 6ft 6 225 lber (on the wire of course) in 15-20 and Galveston Bay chop. The main beam is broken, the port hull is holed, and the starboard hull broke in half at the daggerboard trunk. It's sitting on a trailer in my yard; I bought it because I coveted the rig and the curved traveller.

Thanks for the details. That boat won a couple of 18 sq. NA's and at the time was a real experiment in construction. Many said the plywood/honeycomb/plywood sandwich would never hold up. I guess 20 years of sailing isn't too bad. The mast was a Nacra 5.2 with a tapered carbon tip. Did it survive?
I'd like to see an 18 square with the new LR2-ACAT hulls.

Here's a link to Tilley's tilting trailer design

http://www.thebeachcats.com/index.php?module=pictures&g2_itemId=11313

Here's pix of what I've seen in curved travellers, this is why I say, that traveller looks small to me. Every other one I've seen goes the width of the beam. How well do you find yours works? Are you seeing mast-rotation pressure at the outboard ends of travel? How is your leech tension?

The short track is really only about 4" shorter in travel than the straight track on the rear beam set up ( via. the arc. ) .. it works amazing .. leech tension is great , sail control is perfect playing the traveller and the downhaul ... a great improvement over the standard set up , mast rotates nicely ..the boat tacks without having to release mainsheet tension as on some other cats .. this all may change if I try a newer sail ... but for now it works awesome ... and I'm really happy with it ...

Tami:

Like the new Avatar!!! That you in your younger days?

Doug

frogs on squares

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xadyiN8seIY&feature=related

yes, the mast is intact.

i also got an new elliot sq top made for my sq oversized.i love it.ordering a new spin too jeff

Any pictures of your new main ??

dont know how to show them? un less i email to you

if you use the switch to full screen option at the botton of the window you can add pictures using the file manager in the post options near the bottom ,

I actually saw a Coyote one time, if I remember right, the mast had 2 or 3 spreaders. the hulls were amazing.
I have the section drawings of a Climax somewhere I found on a web page.

I would love to get a chance to sail a Coyote or Climax to compare to the Nacra ..... I really like the Nacra its a blast to sail , points like crazy ....but always wonder how green the other grass is ??LOL

I know of an old Coyote complete with trailer for $2,000.
John Lindahl 269.650.5900

Hey John , have you sailed many of the differant 18 sq's ?? wondering if there is much of a differance between platforms ?? I'm still sailing with your old LCD sail that we picked up when we bought that big Sori section from you ....still a great sail but looking to update..

Time to dust off the 18sq once again !!! Still looking for a newer sail for mine !!! anyone have a newer extra they want to sell ??????

NEW YOUTUBE VIDEOS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxo5NRwWR_Q

Very cool video, but I gotta ask - where were the PFDs?

i agree.. adults get the choice to drown, kids dont

Thankfully it seems no one was injured while making this video !! but agreed .... PFDs are a must .... Watching the video has me pumped and ready to get the 18 sq back out for another FUN season of sailing .... wish more people would have the chance to sail one !! they are such an amazing boat !!! fast and simple uni rig !! much like the A-class just scaled up !!1

We have had Henry Bossett build a couple of new ACAT sails and they have looked real good. Since he made almost all my Square sails I'd bet he'd do another.

MY LCD sail ... still in good shape

I bet there is alot more of John's sailing gear in Canada than he realizes.

Fred

This video makes me cringe.

Not because of the boat. I't s fine example of a 18² flying around. Nice and fast boat.

What makes me cringe is the woefully inadequate equipment for the crew considering the conditions.

First wear some kind of buoyancy aid. I believe it is mandatory almost everywhere in the US for kids.

Then make sure your equipment actually fit and never let a meter of strap float away ready to be caught on something.

Don't sail barefooted. At least get an old pair of trainers. I've seen mangled foot from landing badly in a capsize: that's not pretty.

And I'm not even going into the long term issues like sleeve protection or the absence of decent hats or the lack of sunglasses for the young lady there.

But nice boat.

http://www.uscg.mil/legal/cgho/CGHO_doc/cgho.nwl.vol5.pdf
33 CFR 175.15(c) provides that no person may operate a
recreational vessel underway with any child under 13
years old aboard unless each such child is either wearing
an appropriate PFD approved by the Coast Guard or below
decks or in an enclosed cabin. If the child is observed
above deck without a PFD, then a violation has
occurred.

Hey JOHN , is Henry Bossett still with North ?? or on his own ?? My current LCD sail is AWESOME took a while to get battens to work well with it .. black magic carbon fine tuned work well .. would love to try a newer sail LOL just to see what it might do ... always loved the SQ top Goodall sails on my A class boats .. they would depower themselves in a gust and power back up and go ... Just hate the idea of buying a NEW sail for $$$$$ and find its a dud....