Another Portsmouth DP-N Question
I have an opportunity to get my hands on a Prindle 19 rig (mast and sails) that I am thinking of putting on a Prindle 18-2 making this a P18-2 Turbo.
My question is for racing and getting the right DP-N number. Here is what I am thinking
Prindle 18-2 = 69.10 (base rating)
X's MT @ .995 for the longer mast
X's JU @ .995 for the larger jib
X's ML @ .980 for the larger main sail
for a total of 67.04.
Question, do I have to take a double hit for the mast and the main sail? I'm thinking yes, but it would only seem logical if you're putting on a bigger mast, you must be putting on a larger main sail too - right? So why the double hit?
I am not an expert on Portsmouth Numbers. I am a Certified Race Officer so these kinds of questions interest me. I don't know where to get the definite answer so if someone does please speak up.
IMO MT is a smaller hit than ML .995vs.980 so why not take the harder hit ML instead of MT. On the other hand what if someone shows up with a Prindle 18-2 and a larger main without you taking both hits you would have the same rating. This shows the importanc of stating your modifications on the registration forms.
Ah, the beauty of SMOD. Just kidding...
You have to take all of the hits for each item added, for all of the reasons given above.
There are some events that limit you to one or two mods, so you need to check the NORs carefully.
You could also email Darline with questions.
Mike
John,
Just take all the f'n hits you crybaby. Then maybe you can move past NOT taking the squaretop hit in the past on a few races you did with that 5.8. For christsake, get a box of tissues and get over it. Either that or get a real racing cat that was made in this century that will go fast without having to butcher the crap out of it. And while you're at it, get Jullian to help you.
John, I'd score you a P19 and add a hit for the smaller hulls, as the end product is not an 18-2 anymore. <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />
Didn't you race the N20 last week and love it? Quit this frankenboat crap and HTFU.
Just take all the f'n hits you crybaby. Then maybe you can move past NOT taking the squaretop hit in the past on a few races you did with that 5.8. For christsake, get a box of tissues and get over it. Either that or get a real racing cat that was made in this century that will go fast without having to butcher the crap out of it. And while you're at it, get Jullian to help you.
Yo Team Chumps, what are you babbling about now? I always took the square top and the spinnaker hit. You still hurting to the fact that I beat on you like an unwanted step child even with the Spongebob handicap.
What do I do know???????
Westside Respect Bitch!
John,
I think you should post this question over on the SoCal Beachcats forum on Yahoo...
Oh Ya, I forgot...you've been banned from that one <img src="<>/eek.gif" alt="eek" title="eek" height="15" width="15" />
Pity, there's a level of racing expertise there that is quite exceptional <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" />
Dude, does you parole officer know your posting here? <img src="<>/cool.gif" alt="cool" title="cool" height="15" width="15" />
I think you should post this question over on the SoCal Beachcats forum on Yahoo...
Oh Ya, I forgot...you've been banned from that one <img src="<>/eek.gif" alt="eek" title="eek" height="15" width="15" />
Pity, there's a level of racing expertise there that is quite exceptional <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" />
Did ya vote? Like I always say vote early, vote often.
You gonna share the record braking Santa Babs to King Harbor race with us.
Fingers a little sore? I was hoping to get the
blow by blow
play.
Demanding aren't you!
Here's Bill's post race review:
We had a great race Friday. Flat seas, and wind all day, 8-18. We made all the right moves with little room for improvement. We set a new course record of 5:37 and beat Magnitude 80 by 50 minutes. Second in ORCA on corrected. Phat Cat smoked us by an hour CT, which is great! Because I know that nothing we could have done better would have saved an hour, so no recriminations. J
Mag 80 was the boat to beat for us, as she has beaten us in a prior SB-KH and NP-Ens, demonstrating superior speed in “no wind”, light wind, and upwind conditions. She rates faster than us in PHRF.
We had a good start and there was wind, 8-9 knots. We pulled ahead of the starboard line first start boats as Mag 80 pulled ahead of the port start line boats, ahead of us from the skewed line orientation. We popped the screacher (already hoisted) without running the inner forestay (oops), noticed while unfurling and got the halyard support on. Beam reaching in 9 knots, doing 12+ we are overtaking Mag 80 as we converge, her sailing a little higher, us sailing a little lower. Her line of rail meat had a perfect seat to watch us pass to weather. CRAP! Someone yells, the compression beam LOOKS BAD! We dump sheets to depower as we assess the situation, it has a serious bend from buckling. We install the real inner forestay, but it still looks bad. We rig the jib 2 halyard to support the dipped bend, and it looks stable, so we sheet in again. During this time we had held position with Mag 80 incredibly, and now we pulled away. Winds built, speed increased, I think we saw 20 knots a couple of times approaching the island. Our sail change to the whomper was a bit slow, but no drama. We gybed down the backside with at least 10 knots of wind. We carried this tack down the island at good speed, then rhumblined for King Harbor in the NW wind. As we expected, the wind shifted west aiming us for Malibu. We gybed a few miles off shore in 15 knots of wind. We gybed back inshore before Pt Dume for a 2 knot increase. Past Pt Dume we gybed in again to get close to the rhumbline, and screamed off to King Harbor hitting 23.2 as our top speed. Winds died a bit, but no south shift. Another gybe in to get close to shore so the last gybe would be a short one, and accurate. Winds down to 10 knots as we rounded up at the whistle buoy and into the harbor to finish. Other than the beam, no breakage. On review of crew and tactics, we could have changed sails a few minutes faster, and should practice doing so. I think we should have gybed into the beach sooner on our way to Pt Dume, but not much sooner. Overall we sailed a great race.
We ate and drank a lot in KH, then napped and shoved off around 1:30 AM for a fast (7 hours?) transit home in flat seas and northerly light winds. Richard represented us at the awards ceremony (thanks Richard)
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