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F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!!

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Who's yer driver!!!

F18 Worlds


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 9:06 am
Jake Kohl
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I'm hoping that the USA shows strong contention ... I'm routing for our local's Alex and Nigel!


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 9:18 am
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The Euros know how to run a world class event no matter the racing class! The race program is awesome. Should be a fun event to follow. It will be interesting to see the showdown with the new designs against the Tiger. Hobie for sure has the guns sailing the Tigers (the Booths and Bundock/Ashby).


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 10:19 am
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Hey Jake

are Alex and Nigel sailing an infusion over there?


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 10:25 am
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Hey Jake

are Alex and Nigel sailing an infusion over there?

I really don't know - but I would assume so.

Say...they should be nearing completion of racing for today - anyone got any news? I haven't been able to find anything on the website yet.


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 11:29 am
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are the numbers of entries per country based on total class members from that country?


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 11:36 am
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Yes, each country is limited to a specific number of slots based on their membership. I believe we are limited in NA to 6 slots in the current being. Those slots are usually assigned through finish position at the North American Championship...but I believe it can also go through the regatta points system. With a 14th place NA finish and a 10th place points finish, David and I were offered one of the slots...but it takes a lot of time and ching to do that! Neither of which we have an over-abundence of.


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 12:08 pm
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Can anyone give me an idea of who is racing a tiger, infusion, cirrus, mattia, capricorn or 4x? Also, which sailors are pros?


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 1:46 pm
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Results are up...

http://www.f18worlds2006.com/resultats/index_q.htm

Looks like Greg and Jacques are doing OK.


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 2:42 pm
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I think that 10 of the 1st 11 are tigers with the odd one out being Ned76 which is a Cap.
As far as Pro goes, I struggle to kep tabs on who is getting money chucked at them for what!


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 3:36 pm
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Numbers 4, the brothers Sach sailed a capricorn F18 in last years F18 Worlds. I doubt whether they are now sailing Tiger, but I'm not sure.

Mark Laruffa launched his own Predator F18 design last year, wouldn't he be sailing his own design ?

Wouter


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 5:33 pm
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Rumor is that Laruffa has a chartered Tiger.

Speaking of rumors I heard that the Nacra is not built at max beam. Could that be true?

BTW I say Ashby wins by 10 pts.


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 6:28 pm
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Mark L is sailing a chartered Tiger (or at least he was going to be when I last spoke to him two weeks ago, and the 4 digit sail number suggests its true). He is currently working on the mark 2 version of the preditor and has been racing both a Tiger and Capricorn in Aus. He has just sold his Tiger and intended on shipping his Capricorn over for the worlds. Unfortunately a mix up meant that the Capricorn was left out of the container, so he ended up with the chartered Tiger.

Surely the Nacra is at full beam. They wouldn't make the same mistake twice.


 
Posted : July 10, 2006 9:15 pm
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Mark Laruffa launched his own Predator F18 design last year, wouldn't he be sailing his own design ?
Wouter

AFAIK the Predator didnt pan out as well as he hoped. He has a Capricorn at home but the sail number looks Tiger on the results sheet.

Tiger Mike


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 12:57 am
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Not exactly the Round texel website is it!


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 4:43 am
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Surely the Nacra is at full beam. They wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

So the old Nacra design was not full beam but the new design (Infusion) is? What could possibly have been the logic for a catamaran that was not at max beam?


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 6:32 am
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Mark is on a Tiger, Picture 5 in gallery 10-07 shows da couple


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 6:40 am
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So the old Nacra design was not full beam but the new design (Infusion) is? What could possibly have been the logic for a catamaran that was not at max beam?

The F18 at 2.6m beam is too wide to tow legally in some countries like Australia.
So the Nacras were released at a 2.5m beam which is legal.
The only problem here was the other F18 manufacturers were willing to take the gamble and released 2.6m boats.

Later on Nacra released an upgrade kit here to widen the boats to the 2.6m beam. I don't know if it is true but I was told that you had to have a tilt trailer before they would sell the kit to you.

Basically unless you have a tilt trailer, or in some states, a special permit the F18s are being towed illegally.

I'd hate to clean up a push bike up with the bow of a hull.
I think Nacra reasoned that they would be partially lible.

I guess there are other countries with the same problem?

Regards,
Phill


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 7:40 am
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Legal trailering width here in the states is 8.5' (2.6 meters). I haven't measured but I would assume that my F18 is max beam.


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 8:03 am
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Jake,
That is how I figured it would be. I think they only released the narrower beam where they would run into problems.


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 8:06 am
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F18 Australia has a disclamer on there web site stating....

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The Australian F18 Association reminds all F18 owners that due to various width configurations you may or may not need a permit to transport you boat. Please contact your state RTA for further information on road safety.

I assume the manufactures also have something of simular effect in their owners manual.

For me..... I am not going to risk towing illegal and have made a tilt trailer.

As for Laruffa..... Confirmed, he is on a Charter Tiger and all what Scarecrow said is accurate. Seen the model of the Predator MkII and it looks HOT.......

For anybody that does not know, Mark is the Chairman of the AUS 2007 F18 Worlds Committee and is the main driving force behind the event. He is also backed up by many hardworking AUS F18 sailors on the committee, many of whome have taken a short break to attend the Hyeres Worlds and market our Worlds too the Internationals.

Been a very big work load on these guys (and will continue to be) which has realy chewed into their 06 Worlds preperation. Lets hope that it does not show in the results for them.


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 8:08 am
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Surely the Nacra is at full beam. They wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

So the old Nacra design was not full beam but the new design (Infusion) is? What could possibly have been the logic for a catamaran that was not at max beam?

People talking .rap and idiots believing it


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 8:20 am
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Surely the Nacra is at full beam. They wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

So the old Nacra design was not full beam but the new design (Infusion) is? What could possibly have been the logic for a catamaran that was not at max beam?

People talking .rap and idiots believing it

It is fact in Australia...... Call up Brisbane Cat Centre (NACRA Australia) if you doubt it or talk to any of the AUS F18 sailors.

It was a big mistake by NACRA Aus to reduce the width and it quickly showed in the first AUS F18 Championships. They later offered the kite to people and the NACRA performace increased........ But the mud stuck and a lot of good sailors would not buy a NARCA here. Therefore results indicated that it was still not a fast boat an less people bought them. The new NACRA is a blessing for AUS and will help to shake of some of the mud.

The good news is that there are plenty of fast full width NACRAs in Oz at the moment for a steal. Overlook the past and you have a competitive boat.


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 8:43 am
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Seen the model of the Predator MkII and it looks HOT.......

what does Mk stand for? Mark? What does that mean? I see this all over the place in sailboat names. I tried to figure it out a bit back through google, but could not.


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 11:32 am
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Spot on : second release of an original model: Mark II.
Example : Deep Purple stopped being Deep Purple at the start of Mark 3 🙁


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 12:36 pm
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Seen the model of the Predator MkII and it looks HOT.......

what does Mk stand for? Mark? What does that mean? I see this all over the place in sailboat names. I tried to figure it out a bit back through google, but could not.

As in Mark II or their second version of the design.

Tiger Mike


 
Posted : July 11, 2006 5:25 pm
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Do the finals start today?


 
Posted : July 12, 2006 6:27 am
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Hey Jake

are Alex and Nigel sailing an infusion over there?

Looks like it.

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That is them isn't it?


 
Posted : July 12, 2006 11:47 am
Jake Kohl
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yeah - that's them. Where did you find that pic?


 
Posted : July 12, 2006 12:03 pm
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yeah that looks like the patented Nigel Kneeling Steering Stance.

Wonder if he did that while steering the VX40 too <img src=

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