Area Championships
anywhere on the NOR?
No, but the NOR is listed in the Area Champs section of the website.
I've always felt that the rules are really about maintaining the integrity of the class and its events. Making it all about the money reflects poorly on the class and the company.
Mike
I agree.
I'd like to understand how the HCA rationalizes conceding on the
Hobie Only
policy for one specific fleet (and not any others). The MWE may not state Area Championsip on the NOR, but its listed under the Area Championships section of the web site. However, regardless of whether this regatta is an area championship or not, my understanding was that all regattas run by the HCA were to be Hobie only.
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Area Championships
anywhere on the NOR?
No, but the NOR is listed in the Area Champs section of the website.
I've always felt that the rules are really about maintaining the integrity of the class and its events. Making it all about the money reflects poorly on the class and the company.
Mike
I agree.
I'd like to understand how the HCA rationalizes conceding on the
Hobie Only
policy for one specific fleet (and not any others). The MWE may not state Area Championsip on the NOR, but its listed under the Area Championships section of the web site. However, regardless of whether this regatta is an area championship or not, my understanding was that all regattas run by the HCA were to be Hobie only.
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wait...so now they're getting flack because the Tiger/Wildcat fleet is NOT Hobie exclusive? <img src="<>/crazy.gif" alt="crazy" title="crazy" height="15" width="15" />
Cw
Chris,
You did a splendid job when you had the chair and you don't need to apologize for anything. You had the balls to do what you thought was best for HCA and IWCA.
Having said that, I believe that HCA has every right to administer the Wave class using the save philosophy as the other one-design boats. The F18 really isn't part of this equation.
Almost every Wave sailor I know has a legal Hobie sail. There is no reason to allow anything else at HCA events. In fact, after the ruling came down for MWE last year, several of us used our Hobie sails at some tune-up regattas against top sailors with other sails and we did pretty well.
Having just raced at the Charlotte Harbor regattas this past weekend, I got an indication that a number of IWCA regulars will be at OS with Hobie sails.
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To clarify: The F18 policy we have is that for selected events, the F18 inclusion is possible if there is an seperate OA (other than HCA) for the F18, in this case OSYC. We would have a liability issue otherwise.
I would have thought this would be met with more open arms/minds than it is......its the best we can do given our rules/limitations/liabilty. The Wave thing is the Wave thing. I gave it the ol college try, its all you can really do.
I would have thought this would be met with more open arms/minds than it is......
Thank you for the clarification. I was not trying to be closed minded. Just trying to understand how it was that a non-Hobie class could be included in a Hobie regatta. If I understand correctly, the answer is that the F18 fleet is essentially a separate entity with their regatta coinciding with the Hobie regatta.
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Bingo. It got passed with the Hobie people because we have essentially 2 F18 boats in our group that will benefit from an event like this. The fact that a bunch of non-HCA members would be at our event would pose an insurance issue without the outside OA. It'll be fun. This is the second event we've done in recent history with OSYC and they are first class and it'll be a good deal for everyone. We have our Race Director running races (Mark Santorelli) and he is good. Its my understanding the Kevin Rjada will be helping him so that is good too.
So are any non-Hobie F-18's going to this event besides Robbie on his Cap?
I hope so
John Bauldry's bringing his Wild Cat.
I should know - I'm hauling it down for him. <img src="<>/crazy.gif" alt="crazy" title="crazy" height="15" width="15" />
Bunch of Hobie 17s going, too.
When a super freak that never gets tired, never complains and is always at the ready to talk me off the ledge asks you go sailing there is only one right answer. So unless my employeer bones me I'll be there!
Does someone need a hug?
Nah - he's got Mark. That guy's a hugging machine.
(cleaning up coffee from monitor after spitting it all over)....
Man, I needed that laugh!
Quite true and it took me quite a while to teach him no means no.
Hola
Here is the link to the MWE RN site for sign ups. https:/
Sign up early and often!
... Re-building Bridges
... good job Chris ...I wish I could be there but unfortunately I can't ... maybe next year ... I hope ...
Chris does this type of thinking/stuff to
make it happen
... last year's JO Festival/HCA-NA Jr NAC's at Annapolis Yacht Club was largely due to Chris's hard work behind the scenes ... someone please buy this man a beer for me at this event ... cause I owe him more then one for all his hard work !!!
Sail Flat, Sail Fast, Sail Safe !!!!
Great discussion about the wave controversy, and the work Chris does for Hobie is fantastic and a single beer is not enough, I certainly look forward to buying him a few @ Midwinters. But still trying to get a count on the number of F18's that are going to be there? Two are registered, David say he's going to be there, are there any others who going to make it?
Back to the original question...Will the OA buy us A beer?? <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />
Beers Galore!!!! And Crawfish to go with them!!
there will be beer, and whatever else for sure, but REALLY want to do at least 10 F18s. Alot of us are not exposed to the spin boats and it will be educational for all involved. PLEASE put this on your schedule and pre register. I know this is out of the ordinary with the fleets set up this way, but give it a chance and come to see the YC in Ocean Springs for a 3 day.
xanderwess@yahoo.com 641-425-8720c Chris Wessels
FYI the beer is in the building with the blue roof
BREAKING NEWS: Potential for a Hobie 16
B
Fleet... so any of you a bit cautious about signing up, go ahead and w/enough boats, you can cut your teeth in B fleet, time on the water, great place to learn, lots of awesome folks.
NOR:
http:/
Who's signed up:
http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubm...
To REGISTER:
https:/
see you on the water.
Rob - TheMightyHobie18
OK guys back to the F 18 class. Who is coming
I am REALLY in hopes to do at least 10 total. We got 2 so far, it should be fun and you all know the OSYC and how great it is, so I hope to see you sign up on Regatta Network. Gotta hit our 50 boats!
The race is 3 weeks away and we have 32 boats registered.
The waves have the biggest fleet so far.
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We got two 18's lets sign up guys, we need 3 more!
The waves have the biggest fleet so far.
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I just sent another e-blast to my Wave peeps. Hope to get quite a few more.
A number of them are computer illiterate so they might just show up without preregistering. <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />
Jack
Waves are biggest again........who knew?
Buncha old people . . .
At least two more 17s coming.
Buncha old people . . .
Yup...we were sailin' Hobies when you were in diapers Matt. <img src="<>/cool.gif" alt="cool" title="cool" height="15" width="15" />