Last Time You Flipped

If you don't have a righting line, you can always use your halyard.

>>If you don't have a righting line, you can always use your halyard.

Halyard?? Wouldn't that necessitate dropping the sail? I've always been told to use the mainsheet (although the jib sheet would work equally well).

By the way, my last flip was in 20+ kts last fall going downwind during a race. Another boat was close to leeward so I couldn't turn downwind and I was unable to get the sheet out in time. Got the boat up in 5 to 10 minutes.

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5 or 6 months ago
10 knts, gust in the 15knts
10 minutes?

I put a spi on my nacra 5.2 last year, first time I tried an asymmetric ever. First outing was fine, in the 3 knts of wind.

Second outing a week later was more fun, soloing in a nice 10 kns of wind, with gusts in the 15. I raised and doused the spi three or four times, feeling **** and sometimes worried by the power of this thing. Then I got hit by a gust right in the middle of sending the spi up: with the main cleated and the rudders free to go wherever they wanted the boat turned upwind and flipped. The water was *cold*!

Took me a while to get the spi back in its snuffer bag, and I had to flag the safety boat to give me a hand in getting it back up as I removed my righting line to fix the spi pole and forgot to put it back! Ooops!

Tradewinds 08 Saturday appx 18 kts.

Dropped the mainsheet, tea bag me and my crew (12 year old daughter)kinda got knocked off the back of the boat, pulled boat over backwards. oops. <img src=

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I'll play.

Last summer
20-25mph
5-10 minutes

Had my non-sailing buddy and his 12 y.o. on the boat with me. Wind was supposed to be 10-15 mph. Was blowing pretty good and getting stronger as the evening went on. Tried to tack and had a hard time getting the nose through the wind, so I reversed the rudders to get us the rest of the way through. That worked well, but after coming across the wind, my buddy forgot he was supposed to move to the other side of the boat and retrim the jib... for some reason he still didn't get it with me getting persistently louder and more frantic while yelling

get on this side of the boat... the jib... blow the jib... THE JIB!!!

Oops... my bad. We all went for a swim and his 12 yo was scared out of his mind. Cried and whimpered for all the way back to the landing... of course we couldn't sail straight to the landing, had to make a couple tacks to get there <img src=

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Checked the wind reports when I got home and verified that when we got off the water, average wind was 22mph with gusts up to 30. Maybe just a bit strong for a new crew and white knuckled 12 yo. <img src=

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Hmmm, neither one has been on the boat with me since.

Same day as Korz.

A nitemare experience ensued which I'd rather block out of my memory.

Day 1 of 2006 H16 NAs in RI

I believe the wind was in the high teens (knots), probably higher gusts. The wind was coming off the shore, fighting against a large sea swell from a tropical system near-miss. The weather mark was tucked neatly by the shoreline. The result was an extremely bumpy ride, coupled with extremely gusty winds. This was the day of carnage (broken masts, holed boats, etc.)...

Halfway to the first weather mark in the first race of the week, we capsized (I was being too conservative with a fairly new crew). She landed badly (on something hard) and came up in shock about the pain in her ankle.

Got on the radio, got her on a mark boat and taken to an ambulance. Meanwhile, I was alone on the now turtled boat, figuring I would just sit there all day until someone could help me right it.

I stupidly sat on the leeward hull, and the boat righted itself from turtle. I then had to right it and sail it back to the beach (upwind), alone in those conditions.

Coincidentally, that was the last time I went sailing. Since, we've had the baby, so I spent all of my time last year running regattas...

Mike

Spring Fever, three weeks ago - first time I went pointy-side-down in almost 2 years. Wind was about 8 knots but we caught a beautiful 15 to 18knot gust going down the lake in the direction toward home. We rode it for several minutes until we sailed to the edge of it where the wind backed hard blowing the kite into the rigging. I over-reacted and/or turned the wrong way allowing the gust to catch us again but at 90 degrees. The water was a little chilly.

Nope. Use the loose (hoisting) end of the halyard. You have at least 3 ft + the length of your mast coiled on your tramp.

Same time as Tommy and Tad, Tradewinds 08 on a Nacra 20..... 3 times in the first race! Time before that was Tradewinds 07 on a Capricorn... hmm starting to see a trend here!
Tom... are you sure it was only 18 knots? Seemed windier to me, maybe just the gusts?

Jake,

Are you telling me that the last time you flipped was that BWYD regatta that I sailed with you?

You haven't flipped in any of the Tybee's since then?

Sheesh

i think I may have told this story recently, but...
About 5 weeks ago. Sailing solo, uni rigged, couldn't tack it was so windy (25kn+, seriously). I was trying to tack from sitting on the hull- as opposed to while coming in from the trap. I tried more times that I care to remember and couldn't even get the boat head to wind enough to go backwards and reverse steer. I would have turned around to go back home (trying the get 10 miles or so to pensacola beach from where I keep my boat) but the idea of gybing was kind of terrifying because I KNEW I was going to go over if I tried it.
Eventually decided I had to try it from the trap but got separated from the boat (still hooked in) and it went over. The wind was blowing on the underside of the tramp and I could see the mast was submerged to below the spreaders. Somehow got the boat to stop doing that, but now had both sterns in the water with the bows pointing straight up. As I was standing on the leading edge of one of the rudders (yeah, I know... not the best place to stand... but what was my other option?) I really couldn't figure out how this was going to play out. At least the mast wasn't staight down. It eventually fell over on its side. Plenty of wind to get it back up... and back over. I can't remember specificly but I think that happened at least 2 times.
I finally got it to come up and stay up but the rudders were pinned driving the boat DOWN. So there I am, exhausted on the windward side of the front beam being dragged through the water with no strength to get back on board. I was finally able to reach the trap handle and get myself back on the tramp and quickly neutralized the rudders. If I had lost contact with the boat at all I would never have been able to get back to it.
I was so exhausted after that that I didn't actually want to race the next day. Oddly enough, nothing broke.

Spring fever 08....Thanks Jake! BTW....I did not notice, the water was cold????

Prior....Spacecoast 45 5knts of wind. Got caught sleeping when a gust came. blew us right over. Never saw it coming. Back up in 2 minutes. Still first boat to finish.

The last time I went over was during my last race (30th March) and also a week earlier during the previous race.
I don't enjoy going over but I think it's best to get them over and done with early in the season. The first one was on a 1 sail fetch and I just got hit by a gust and couldn't bear away quick enough and had to jump off the trap aiming just behind the mains leech. It took less than 4 mins to get righted again. The second was just after a gybe, one hand on the tiller one hand sorting out the trap hook, main was cleated and a piddling little gust just heeled me enough to send me slipping down the tramp un-cleating the main as I passed by. This time I was up really quick as I managed to swing around the rear beam before hitting the water, less than 2 mins probably.
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A few weeks ago, at Stevenson, WA in the Gorge. The launch is sheltered and great, but that means there is a huge windline when you get past the point (5 kts to 25 kts in a few feet). Usually not a problem - just don't cleat and be ready for it. However, was sailing solo on a craptacular

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H16 and the mainsheet kinked and wouldn't feed out. Dump, over I go not 30 seconds from launching. Finally got it up after fighting to keep a good angle to the wind (strong current opposes the wind, so it likes to mess with the sail in the water if you aren't fast )to find additional

issues

with the boat...

Duhh...I don't know why I was thinking the halyard would be up the mast. Yep, the halyard would be easier than using one of the sheets.

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Actually, I think it was the 2006 Steeplechase was the last flip before that...finally figured out that with the rudders up, the rudder arms catch on the footstraps on the hull making it impossible to steer. We flipped once in the Tybee 2006 and none in 2007...to the best of my recollection. I quit pushing hard enough didn't I?

a month ago. 3/5 knots. lying almost asleep waiting for two other cats to catch up when she just started to move away...lift head and shake away dream...start to fly and reach for the locked off main.....grab the (still foggy in the head) traveller and pull DOWN thinking it was the main...drowsiness turns to wide eyed disbelief as the boat went up far enough to have me slipping down tramp while vainly pulling UP on a traveller that was too long now that I had slipped towards it...grab foot strap as I realized I was going to get wet.....
Back up in under a minute but pride took a little longer.

Last saturday. I was helming on a friends boat (Nacra F18).
He just got it and after spending a couple hours setting it up we wanted to take it for a inaugural sail,
of course we had to set the spin and with the 15-20kts and the ultra steep lake waves it wasn't long before digged both hulls in and he peter-panned to the forestay.
Both water and air temperature where about 7c celsius so we got it back up in record time <img src=

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One tip to prevent turteling is to slide out the daggerboard and lean against it until someone gets a hold of the righting cord.

It long to remember. I have come REAL close a few times on both the H-17 and the Mystere 4.3 (especially learning to fly the kite). Just lucky I guess, know what to do to save it at last minute. BUT I know I will when I get the Blade as it is a HOT boat and must be driven. Can't wait it get wet (LOL).

Doug

About 6 months ago.
Me and my non-sailing brother (we're working on that) were out on a rented Topcat K1 (German dart 18 knock-off). There was just enough wind to get her up on one float. He was on the tiller and we were double trapping and generally monkeying around. My Bro loves getting the luff float up as high as possible, unfortunately the rental trap loop wasn't long enough for me to walk on the side of the float as the platform approached 90 degrees, and I slipped off due to a wave (or jerky newbie steering?), ripping the hiking straps clean off and breaking the trap shock-cord (and almost my toe) in the process. Afterwards I realized I almost lost my glasses which weren't secured (big oops!)...
All in all it was a lot of fun, but very tiring to get back on the boat. Righting was done in a couple of minutes with no problems.

Three weeks ago. 25 KTS+ and 10 foot seas beyond the reef between Islamorada and Key Largo. We were transitioning from heading upwind to a power-reach on the F18. Just as Tyler (Skipper) came in off trap we took a 10 footer over the side, throwing him into the boom and me from the rear footstrap through the fore-triangle in an effort to avoid landing on Tylers head. Bent the boom 45 decrees and pulled the bull cord out of the mast up to about half way. Limped back down wind to islamorada at 17 kts on the GPS hoping the main didn't come out all the way.

Only once? Tough day....

Spring Fever 2008, day 2, new Blade, spinnaker deployed, kind-of gusty.

crew (me):

Head down.

skipper:

I am heading down.

sploosh, glub, glub, glub

We were upright again in a minute or so.

bastard...didn't get wet above the knees. You'd think we were sailing a laser or something. You just remember that next time I complain about being tired from driving the boat all day! <img src=

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[quote You just remember that next time I complain about being tired from driving the boat all day!

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Monterey bay first time out on my new hobie tiger. First time i drove a spin boat . Got a boat to leward and couldn't turn down. Flipped it and had the chute in the current . Got the chute in the bag and boat over but popped my shoulder out. Took 20 minutes to get back on the boat . Now i have a small rope step i can put down to get back on.

I have a mate trying to work out a step arrangement..can you describe it?

March 15...First day of Cat Fight 1 in San Diego. Unusually windy for SD with maybe 18 kts and gusts higher. Three times that day...once with the chute up during a race, once between races when we weren't paying attention, and once more during the race around the bay. Nothing broken except shockcord on the forward trap.