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Rusty West
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I have been shopping for a boat for 2 years. I am about ready to pull the trigger on a Hobie Wave but I am wondering about the Hobie Getaway. Most of my sailing is single handed but once in a great while I do have a crew of 1. I am about 190 lbs. I am wondering if I will be able to get the Hobie Getaway righted by myself.

Currently I have a Hobie 14 for single handing and a Nacra 5.8 to take guest but this year the Nacra never made it to the water. I am thinking maybe it is time to consolidate to a boat that will be great for single handing and ok for the occational outing with a crew. I just need to be able to right it single handed. Boat handling single handed is not a concern. I have sailed the Nacra solo but always feared I would flip and not be able to get it righted. I usually sail in 5-15 kts of wind in the southern Chesapeake Bay area.

Any help is greatly appreciated.


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 9:23 am
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You will never right a Getaway by yourself. After sailing the 5.8 do you really think you will be happy sailing a wave or getaway?


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 11:44 am
pepin
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For your program (Coming from a relatively quick N5.8 and a exciting 14, and wanting a cat you can sail and right alone, as well as with the occasional crew) I'd suggest a Formula 16. Considering you are in the US a Blade would probably be the better choice if you are buying new. Frankly a wave or a getaway are way slower, and your grin won't be as large...

Otherwise there are 3 taipan 4.9 available in the classifieds, one of them from Rick himself. Those are great boats you can right by yourself, sail alone or with a crew by adding the jib.


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 2:25 pm
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For your program (Coming from a relatively quick N5.8 and a exciting 14, and wanting a cat you can sail and right alone, as well as with the occasional crew) I'd suggest a Formula 16. Considering you are in the US a Blade would probably be the better choice if you are buying new. Frankly a wave or a getaway are way slower, and your grin won't be as large...

Otherwise there are 3 taipan 4.9 available in the classifieds, one of them from Rick himself. Those are great boats you can right by yourself, sail alone or with a crew by adding the jib.

Can you list an optimum weight range for crew? I see all these claims about racing 1 or 2 up by adding a jib or increasing jib size-

I am 185lbs and if I race 2 up it will be ~ 380lbs. I doubt that would be competitive.


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 5:34 pm
Rusty West
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You and the previous poster have valid points. I guess I failed to mention that I need to keep the price down as I am one of those older sailors (53) with 2 kids in college. I used to race a lot but the last few years my primary sailing has just been long ( 5-15 ) mile solo cruises along the Chesapeak Bay coast. The Blade and Tiapan are out of my price range. One boat I am considering is a sailing charter company that is selling their Wave fleet for 2500.00 each this fall. I am sure they will need some rehab. I am hoping to do this for 3K plus or minus a little. The reason I had kind of settled on the Wave was a couple of inspiring emails from Rick W. and the discussion listed in the Catsailor Magazine this month. I am assuming the performance of the Wave won't be worse than the H14 and I can go out and trapeze on that some days when the wind is up.

News that I can't right a Getaway is disappointing but sort of not surprising.

Thanks to all who have responded !!!


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 6:12 pm
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Do Waves have a trapeeze?


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 8:10 pm
 Karl
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There is an FXone for cheap in NC on the Hobie Forums. I can right mine with a water bag. I'm 160lbs,


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 8:22 pm
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Rusty - I beg to differ with one of the posters above. I have sailed a Getaway all summer on Buzzards Bay. I am 180 lbs. and can right it by myself without much effort. Barring a very crazy sea state, I would think you at 190 should not have an issue here.


 
Posted : September 21, 2008 9:39 pm
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tell us more about how to solo right that monster easily


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 2:30 am
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Save yourself $3000 and purchase a righting bag and block. you can right your nacra solo with that....


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 9:16 am
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You and the previous poster have valid points. I guess I failed to mention that I need to keep the price down as I am one of those older sailors (53) with 2 kids in college. I used to race a lot but the last few years my primary sailing has just been long ( 5-15 ) mile solo cruises along the Chesapeak Bay coast. The Blade and Tiapan are out of my price range. One boat I am considering is a sailing charter company that is selling their Wave fleet for 2500.00 each this fall. I am sure they will need some rehab. I am hoping to do this for 3K plus or minus a little. The reason I had kind of settled on the Wave was a couple of inspiring emails from Rick W. and the discussion listed in the Catsailor Magazine this month. I am assuming the performance of the Wave won't be worse than the H14 and I can go out and trapeze on that some days when the wind is up.

News that I can't right a Getaway is disappointing but sort of not surprising.

Thanks to all who have responded !!!

The performance of a Wave is worse than a H14 and a lot worse than a H14 turbo (w/jib). A Getaway is on par with a H14 turbo. If you want to save money, I suggest you get a used H16 for less than a grand and invest in a righting bag.


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 10:07 am
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Do Waves have a trapeeze?

The trapeze kit is an option from Hobie Cat Company.


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 2:42 pm
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Ah..

Do you need a trapeeze for a Hobie wave?? Maybe that is why I have never seen one. if you need to trap... does the boat handle the sea state at that wind??

Thanks Mary


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 2:53 pm
bvining
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Both the wave and the gateway are going to be major disappointment in terms of performance after the nacra. I've sailed both and hated them, they both feel slow. The wave might be fun if its blowing 25, but otherwise its boring.

Get a righting bag, and a power pole for the nacra. If you are still worried about capsize add a float to the top of the mast when you are alone.

Sell the 14, upgrade the sails on the nacra and add a asym spin. You'll still have money left over.

Bill


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 3:20 pm
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No big secrets here...Release sheets. Get mast 45 degrees off wind. Stretch out righting line. Gain max leverage by keeping legs straight off hull just above water. And then most importantly be patient!!! As hull above starts to fall, keep climbing line to keep leverage maxed. When it falls keep a firm grip on it (Duh). I have skimped on the 45 degree rule but would not do this solo as I guess/feel there is higher

take off

potential.

Your mileage may vary.


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 9:05 pm
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Advice, I love it!

Rusty, maybe you should try this:

Wave NAs at Duck

I sympathize with the two in college. And I like the long trips down the Bay! Don't think high speed is essential for that kind of sailing.


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 11:11 pm
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You may get some better advice from people that actually own Getaways here.


 
Posted : September 22, 2008 11:28 pm
Rusty West
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Duck NC is where they are selling some of their used Wave rentals next month.


 
Posted : September 23, 2008 9:50 pm
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