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What is the correct sidestay tension for a Hobie 16 and how do I measure that tension?

Beig 200 miles from the nearest fleet I cannot compare to other hobies. I have shortened the stays as per pother discussions here but my performance suffered. I returned to 3 holes up, as originally set up when I got the boat. We seemed to sail faster but could not point.

Any help greatfully accepted.


 
Posted : November 11, 2001 1:31 am
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This is a good question, and it sounds like you are having the same problems as myself. I have been experimenting with sidestay tension. I am not using an aussie haliard system, so we may have different rigs. I think that I do better with lots of tension on my rigging. It keeps the mast more verticle; when you heel, you mast/sails changes verticle entry angles to the wind. The books say run your rigging looser in light and heavy winds. I read a discussion on one of those mono-hull sights, and they recommend between 5 and 10 percent of breaking strenght. Which is around 200 lbs. Automotive parts stores can get a belt tension guage, that I think one could use to guage wire tension. I have a couple of these guages, and next spring plan on using it on my wires to see how it works.

Last summer, I believe that the looser my rig was the worse my boat seemed to point. My next mission is to look at mast rotation. I wish the A Fleeters would help us out on these things, but guess information is classified. I have several books, but none of them are very definative; they leave you guessing, just like before.

The only time that I have ever been able to point very well is when the winds are screaming. I think the combination of an old boat and heavy weight kills one's ability to point on a 16.


 
Posted : November 11, 2001 7:30 am
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Hey Guys,

This was discussed in depth a while ago. You'll have to forgive my primitive use of the links, but this is the only way I can tell you where to look.

(url) http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=Hobie16&Number=2559&page=&view=&sb=&o=(/url)

and

(url) http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=Hobie16&Number=452&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=deq204&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=310(url/)

These threads have a lot of excellent info on the ballpark set up of the H 16.

If this doesn't work let me know and I'll try to get the info to you.

Point higher & foot faster!!


 
Posted : November 12, 2001 9:18 am
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I found a basic article on Hobie 16 written by Hobie 16 world champions Gwenael Roth and Thierry Monfret. However I don't remember where I found it so I'll give their information on shroud tension here.

all numbers are counting up from base hole

hole 5 in less than 10 konts of wind for flat water and 5 knots of wind in choppy seas

hole 4 in 12-15 knots of wind for flat water and 10 knots of wind in choppy seas

hole 3 in greater than 15 knots of wind for flat water and above 10 knots for choppy seas

Hobie 14 sail #17827

Hobie 16 sail #72585


 
Posted : November 23, 2001 8:22 pm
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A fleet, classified? either you didn't ask or your division sucks to put it mildly,

in div 16 I cannot tell you how much help I have recieved from A fleet, mostly from fleet 204, but also from all the other fleets, I can't say I've ever been sailing (racing) and not asked for some kind of advice or help of an A fleeter, I've never been turned away either. If you can make it, I suggest you come to our spring regatta in may, if you don't learn anything there you didn't want to! not to mention how much fun we are!

p.s. remember rule #1- HAVE FUN,

My most memorable race was one I lost, by 2 feet but it was so much fun that I didn't mind,by the way Kathy Miles and Evil Mike beat me

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Posted : November 26, 2001 1:36 am
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