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(@Anonymous 6797)
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[#15918]

ok i have sailed today with my h14 for one of the first time...
wind an big waves...
no problem until i capsize into a wave.
the boat doesn't turtle so i grab the line to right it but....i can't i need the help of the baywatch.
my weight is 75kg (200 lbs)it's possible
or i do something wrong?
i think the line was short and thin,the last owner doesn't have a lot of cure of the boat...
here are the questions:
1)wich is the best system to put the line(i.e. hawaiian style)
2)lenght and size af the line and bungee plus hardware
3)how to put this on the boat
sorry maybe is a stupid question but i really need help...
thanx to all an good wind
max
p.s. sorry my english


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 12:58 pm
(@Anonymous 38734)
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Max,

You should be able to right an H-14. If your weight is 75 kg. that is 165 lb. You probably can get the righting line arrangement from the on-line catalogues and there should be some instructions on the Hobie site.

Did you uncleat the sails (do you have a jib)? Did you have the mast pointing into the wind? Are there any other H-14 sailors in the area who can show you how it is done?

Where are you sailing?

Howard


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 1:19 pm
Josh Fint
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OK, so I'm going to give a step by step, I'm sure I'll forget somethign or oversimplyfiy, oh and I'm omitting line placment, because everyone is different, and you can get an idea from pictures from hobie like the previous poster said.(I just use a simple line the wraps around mast base, then tossed over top hull, its tied to dolphin striker, which you might not have)

1. be quick, must not let boat turtle(you should be fine if your mast doesn't leak)
2. stand on hull in water, move weight to bow until bows points into wind
3.Uncleat sails
4. lean back on righting line, as mast rises wind will help push it up by getting underneath the uncleated sail
5. As boat comes down grab eigther dolphn striker or front beam
6 boat should be headed dead into wind with you hanging on front beam in between hulls
7.climb on and away you go

if your new to cats but know some about sailing, then I do suggest Rick White's book Catamaran racing for the 90's Its not just for racing and this technique, along with several other useful techniques are described there.

Also this is not a stupid question, I think this is one of the most important skills in sailing. Its a saftey issue, you might try practicing this in shallow water untill you know you have it down.

Happy sailing on your new cat!

Josh


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 1:26 pm
(@Anonymous 6797)
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i live in rome italy and where i sail there aren't hobies just 470s.....
the hobie gear is so much expensive here in italy so i whant to do by myself....


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 1:27 pm
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Thank you for posting this. Righting a boat is a bit of a personal insecurity that I will have to deal with fairly soon myself.

Although my cat experience is limited, I have actually righted a hobie 14 before. I sailed a rental unit in Arcachon, France and it pitchpoled in heavy wind.

It was scary because when the hobie pitchpoles, one hull actually sinks into the water instead of floating. There should be a righting rope attached to the mast bearing or dolphin striker. I was told to wrap that rope around the non-submerged hull, and pull down with all my weight while standing on the submerged hull. I remember it was very difficult, since the hobie 14 is a small boat without much lateral leverage.

I'm almost scared to capsize my 18' Nacra... the mast on that thing is enormous and I'd be amazed if 1 person could pull it up out of the water, even after cleating the sails.

Good luck!

Aaron


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 1:41 pm
Josh Fint
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Aaron you'll never know till you try it, get in some shallow water and flip it, or take someone out with you to help if it turns out you can't get it up by yourself. It just my opinion, but this should be one of the first things you do with a new boat.


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 1:45 pm
(@utahsailor)
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Well, my plan was to try this out tomorrow or Sunday on Great Salt Lake, where the water is absurdly shallow

The videos make righting a boat look so easy... it's just a bi daunting when I think how tall the mast is.


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 1:51 pm
(@Anonymous 6797)
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thanx to all...
tomorrow at the beach i'll try the righting in shallow water.
but anyone knows the lenght and size of the righting line?
i want change the old one before try....
max


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 2:19 pm
Josh Fint
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long enough that you can lean WAY out and still hold onto it, and whatever size you are comfortable holding onto for a while, remember you'll be holding your own weigth up, so a thicker line might be more comfortable. Personal preference.


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 2:31 pm
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Aaron,

That's another thing I'll show you how to do if you make it up: right your boat.


 
Posted : July 29, 2005 7:47 pm
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