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(@Anonymous 15703)
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Ncik I may be wrong but I was under the impression the proposed minimum rule was going to be upwards of 55kg. Earier discussions had weight being added on top of Gato's, not using his as a benchmark. If its only going to be 50kg then its back on track.
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Posted : August 11, 2008 6:36 pm
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News from the workshop, two halves made.
http://www.gust.ax/gallery/f12/08-08-12/


 
Posted : August 12, 2008 6:35 am
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You are impressively fast Gato! Looks like foam stripping, but without the glass in place?

How did you cut the mould, by hand with a jigsaw?

Are those two Blade hulls I see beneath the F12? What is up with those?


 
Posted : August 12, 2008 12:34 pm
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Thats a really pretty hull....nice work Nick & Gato :_)
Cheers
RG


 
Posted : August 12, 2008 7:50 pm
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It's foam stripping, the glass on the inside. I will make up a better thing on the blog when I get the time. The two Blade hulls. lost the inspiration whit the discussions on the forum and the fact that the CHAIRMAN of the F16 class sold us some junk yard stuff at the price of super duper stuff..., but thats another story.


 
Posted : August 13, 2008 5:18 pm
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Thanks. Really impressed with how fast it is coming together. Still haven't come up with a name though, any ideas?


 
Posted : August 13, 2008 7:41 pm
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very impressive Gato nice work


 
Posted : August 14, 2008 2:57 am
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It has no name yet, I'm behind on the blog, and it's my first boat done in foam...
http://www.gust.ax/gallery/f12/08-08-20/


 
Posted : August 20, 2008 12:49 pm
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A little bit less behind on the blog...
http://www.gust.ax/gallery/f12/08-08-21/


 
Posted : August 20, 2008 1:26 pm
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Gato,

I hope you've got some lead left over from one of your last projects. This boat looks like it will set a new bar weight wise.


 
Posted : August 20, 2008 5:52 pm
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It will end up under 50 kg but not that much. I have very little experience in foam building and the foam is eating a lot of epoxy...


 
Posted : August 20, 2008 9:33 pm
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Try brushing on a layer and letting it kick before putting on the actual laminate. Or wetout and squeeggee your cloth off the part and then lay it on, the foam shouldn't wick resin out of the glass if you have the right amount there.

Do you know how much resin you used on the DS?


 
Posted : August 20, 2008 10:27 pm
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Squeegee a thin bog of honey consistency on the foam right before glassing. No need to let it cure, glass straight onto the wet bog. This will require

half

as much resin.


 
Posted : August 20, 2008 11:25 pm
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Thanks for the advises!!! The epoxy for the DS12, yes I have it written somewhere, will try to find it when I get back to the workshop.


 
Posted : August 21, 2008 12:53 am
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The filler works,using peelply helps with weight to (shower curtain nylon works well)bill


 
Posted : August 21, 2008 2:35 pm
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The 4 halves are joined together, now it's up to the Nice Lady if we get some pics...


 
Posted : August 25, 2008 7:09 am
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Gato, do you ever sleep ? <img src=

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As this is actually a retorical question, judging by your activity - then the most interesting question is: how do you do it ?
Now seriously, great work !!!

How do you find working with foam compared to wood/plywood ?


 
Posted : August 25, 2008 12:02 pm
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The trick is; A bad carpenter has to cut a plank 3 times before it's to short, a good one does it at once...
Working with foam is great, fast, giving a good result and the cost is about the same. In fact for the moment I don't see the reason why to work with ply.


 
Posted : August 26, 2008 2:11 am
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You can not enjoy the smell of wood, and the pleasure of using your plane with foam <img src=

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Can you buy sheets of foam, or do you have to buy a whole package.


 
Posted : August 26, 2008 2:21 am
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Well, the okume ply dosen't smell so good, it would be different if you built a real wooden boat.
As for the foam, you can buy a single sheet. I will try to get some pics for Monday.


 
Posted : August 30, 2008 3:59 am
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Pics!!!!!!!!
http://www.gust.ax/gallery/f12/08-08-30/


 
Posted : September 1, 2008 12:37 pm
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Great stuff!!!!!!!

Almost looks like strip plank boats. Interesting shape to the hulls!

I would be very interested in hearing how you did the join of the two halves. Bulkheads inside etc.


 
Posted : September 1, 2008 12:56 pm
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Don’t know if I shall recommend the way I joined the halves, at least not before I have smashed the cat into a big wave... The good way is with flanges, but I wanted to go fast...


 
Posted : September 1, 2008 1:46 pm
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Don’t know if I shall recommend the way I joined the halves, at least not before I have smashed the cat into a big wave... The good way is with flanges, but I wanted to go fast...

Usually the worst loads are beaching and trailing, not necessarily sailing.


 
Posted : September 1, 2008 4:10 pm
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I know Farrier designed home-built hull halves are never flanged. They do have some tape applied though... I guess you did that too. Never heard of any problems with those.


 
Posted : September 2, 2008 7:33 am
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I did a small rebate and added some extra glass BX+/-45deg over the joint. I’m not really scared of it breaking. The two hulls are glassed and I will try to get the time to make the beams and landings for them the next weekend.


 
Posted : September 2, 2008 8:30 am
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So here we are, a new cat in the water. It’s not painted yet, just a little bit of primer, and the rig is borrowed from the DS12, but I could not resist. There was not a lot of wind so it’s still hard to say anything about how it’s sailing, but even with this light wind it was easy to tack.
http://www.gust.ax/gallery/f12/08-09-12/


 
Posted : September 14, 2008 2:48 pm
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WOOHOO!


 
Posted : September 14, 2008 6:44 pm
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Gato, congratulations! You are amazing. I want to grow up and be like you <img src=

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Tested the new boat on the kids yet?


 
Posted : September 15, 2008 12:05 pm
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Have you weighted the complete boat yet? What would the weight difference be between the two boats?
I was wondering how it would be to cartop these on a regular sedan, nothing else.


 
Posted : September 15, 2008 12:08 pm
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